This is an illusion

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This thread is not real,just turn away >.>

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btw I have very little knowledge of Genjutsu so u will have your hands full xD
 

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Well if we want to ignore the fact that I want to learn evreything there is to learn xD the answer would be to simply have an edge over my oponnent in battle and also just to have a better understanding of it so when I get trapped inside of it I know what to do.
 

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Hm. Interesting response.
Two questions then.
What is the general range that Genjutsus can go up to and why?
Secondly, why is creativity so important in utilizing Genjutsu?
 

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Well while doing my thing and researching the jutsus I have noticed a pattern of many jutsu being short to mid range.As the rank got higher so did the range but in the end the general range would be mid.My guess would be that the farther away the target the harder it is to control him.Genjutsu is based on controling the enemys chakra so it would make sense that to control something its easier to do it up close

Creativity is important cause if you can be creative and choose what to put into the genjutsu for the enemy to see while also being realistic and not making it easy for the enemy to notice its a genjutsu the chances of them breaking out decrease.You can also give yourself a very big edge over your opponent if you can make him see a certain illusion like multiple enemys that he would asume are shadow clones.

I have one question sensei,how would a person who has no training in genjutsu break out of high level genjutsu or even C rank genjutsu?
 

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And well, the main point of Genjutsu acting on creativity is because you can literally create anything you want.

Anyways, the next thing we are going over will cover your question. What manners can a person utilize to get out of a Genjutsu? State as many as you can think of.
 

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Is this a genjutsu or did you really reply Lol

Well in the time of your absence I did pick up a few things

Basicly inflicting pain on yourself,I also learned Nagashi(great for genjutsu as it requires no hand seals)
The Kai technique which is basicly disrupting your own chakra.

ofc for all these things to even be used you first need to realize you are in a genjutsu so you need to look for things out of place,something that shouldnt be there.
 

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Haha, well, think whatever you like.
Perfect, with that last point, you covered the idea of "reasoning", which comes with experience of course. Alright, well, you're missing one more thing that's quite important when you have either a Shadow Clone out or if you're a Jinchuuriki. How might each of the situations help you out of a Genjutsu?
 

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If you are a Jinchuuriki the tailed beast can snap you out of it,the same way with a clone
Granny Chiyo explained in the Kazekage Retrevial Arc that if you get caught under a genjutsu your partner can snap you out if and was represented by basicly hitting you with a stick thus causing pain to you xD
 

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Perfect!
Let's start simple now. First, try and transform our surroundings into anything you want.
You must first concentrate on your chakra and then release it out of your body onto me, then deliberately control each of my five senses to get me to see what you want.
 

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I begin by concentrating chakra through my entire body,gathering enough of it while thinking of what the genjutsu should be.As an idea pops up into my head I begin to release the gathered chakra upon you draging you into the genjutsu.I trick your brain into makeing you see heaven above you with beautyfull nature around you.Then as you take a step forwards a gaping hole opens up sending you directly to hell :devil:

I hope this is ok,still not sure if this would be the correct way of performing genjutsu :p
 

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>.> Dam it, I'm falling into flames. @_@

Alright, a great start - enjoying the creativity very much. xD But allow me to introduce a concept. Cause and effect. For example, you used a Wind Jutsu to blow away the explosive tag, thus, I can follow up with a prepared fire move to disregard your Wind Jutsu, so that it overcomes it and is sent back at you two times stronger.
By taking the upper hand, you can juggle your opponent around and have them react the way you want to, as we are all forced to make moves and survive in a battle. This is most often used in chess, where it is necessary to be able to predict several moves ahead of the opponent.

How might you utilize this factor if you were able to change the surroundings into anything you wish?
 

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Im not exactly sure if I follow but do you mean something like if I would use an arial attack forcing my enemy to defend from an upwards attack leaving him open to any other attacks?

So basicly manipulating the enemy into thinking that the main part of the attack is just a simple jutsu that comes from the air while simply you wait for him to concentrate on that to take him out with any other fast jutsu which he would not expect
 

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Not exactly. You're kind of grasping the concept, but the point here is like tricking your opponent into countering a jutsu but his counter fails.
Remember you can cover the real essence of a jutsu with Genjutsus - so, say that you used an earth jutsu against your opponent - you know he would counter with Lightning, so how might you trick your opponent into failing to counter your jutsu? How might you "hide" the Earth jutsu by taking over his mind?
 

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Im not exactly sure,there are those earth jutsu that consist of manipulating boulders and sending them toward the enemy.In the same manner a strong wind can send them towards the enemy too but also the wind would travel with them.The lightning would destroy the boulders(which he would think is an earth jutsu) but the wind would overpower the lightning and go on to attack the enemy.
 

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@_@ I think I just confused myself and you too.
So if you make them see a huge lightning jutsu is coming, you can follow it up with a personal Fire Jutsu because you know that they would be using a wind jutsu to counter that lightning jutsu.
Thus, the fire would eat up the wind and be redirected back at him.
There are so many ways to use this jutsu I can spend hours going over them, but it seems that you've got the hang of it. >.> I hope.
( Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu ) - Demonic Illusion: False Surroundings Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10 (+5 if you use it double)
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user casts an illusion over an area that allows him to manipulate the way an area looks to fool an opponent. He can only change the way the terrain looks, and not any other feature.
Let me teach you about handseals now.
Let's say you had one jutsu that required only one handseal, but your opponent had one that required five.
How would you take advantage of this?
 

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@_@ I get it Lol

Well that means I would perform my jutsu faster so basicly my entire move could make the opponent have to defend himself
 

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Yes, it makes your move faster, so in reality, you should be able to move faster than him.
It pays a lot to notice things like that during fights. Small attention to important things can really make a huge difference.
So this next jutsu has five handseals.
I want you to focus your chakra into me once more and make it appear that you've dissolved into many petals. Actually, cherry blossom petals. Then, make those cherry blossoms around me and make sure you obscure my vision.
Then describe what purpose this serves in a battle.
 

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I begin by concentrating chakra through my entire body once more,then once I gather the desired amount of it I release it upon you.As you get sucked into the genjutsu u see me perform 5 hand seals and I then dissolve into cherry blossom pettals that begin to surround you.Once you are surrounded you lack the vision too see what I do next *does an unspeakable act*

Well it basicly blocks your vision which allows you to follow up with an attack but I do have a question.Since there arent any normal jutsu like this wouldnt the enemy notice its a genjutsu as soon as I dissolve into the pettals?This isnt One Piece with all them Logias and shizz xD
Maybe im just wrong about this,like I said my knowledge of genjutsu is certanly limited xD
 

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Oh, well, we will go over Reasoning soon, that's for sure, but there are actually jutsus like this, that's in C-Rank Wood. I think it may be a variant of Ino's flower stuff, but, yeah...I don't see anyone using this much, but you've covered the main point of it, which is field of vision.
By knowing where your opponent's eyes are directed at all times allows you take advantage of this and send a jutsu from a direction where you know they won't be looking at. This is also especially important when you are battling against Doujutsu users, especially Byakugans, because they only have one blind spot out of their 360 vision.
This jutsu blocks your opponent's field of vision, so that you are able to execute other moves upon him while he scrambles to see again.
( Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou ) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Escape
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user makes five handseals, appearing to dissolve into a shower of cherry blossom petals. These petals surround the opponent, blocking his vision. This allows the user to mask his movement effectively.
This is one of the many ways to be creative when disguising your next move in a battle. By outplaying your opponent or tricking them, it allows you to defeat them in battle.

This next jutsu allows the use of an explosive tag.
The explosive tag is a very important ninja tool. Tell me several ways to use it and how it works in battle.
 
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