[VS] Third Raikage vs Second Hokage

Who wins

  • Raikage

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Hokage

    Votes: 9 60.0%

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pateuvasiliu

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and tobirama cant hurt him either so whats your point

Sword through the eye.

Raikage's skin and blood is what makes him so durable. Guess what, eyes don't have skin on 'em.

GG no RE.
 

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Sword through the eye.

Raikage's skin and blood is what makes him so durable. Guess what, eyes don't have skin on 'em.

GG no RE.
This is one of the worst posts I've seen you make man :( I mean really? Sword through the eye??? I don't see Tobirama lasting very long in this fight to be honest. Raikage can fight for days without tiring, his chakra is arguably more than Tobirama's, his speed surpasses Tobirama's (excluding ftg) and since Tobirama's ftg isn't as versatile as Minato's it won't help him for too long until he gets caught.
 

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Tobirama fanboys overrate the shit out of him. Minato obviously beats him.

Oh? Whose arm broke off like a twig when Obito's black orb touched his arm? I recall a Tobirama Bunshin carrying the orb mid-explosion no sweat. Plus, note that whilst Minato stood there gawping at the orb, Tobirama had planned what to do in a split second, Minato is too slow mentally to deal with him.

ET + FTG + Suiton = Minato done for.
 

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His speed surpasses Tobirama's?

SM Naruto was able to dodge and hit him and Tobirama is faster than Naruto.

Tobirama's ftg isn't as versatile as Minato's it won't help him for too long until he gets caught.

He only needs to tag Sandaime to gain the upper hand and if Naruto could Rasengan him Tobirama sure as hell can tag him. As for the lack of v2, marking manually and bunshin-ing should make it perfect.

Sandaime's stamina doesn't mean shi t when he is getting tagged. His fanboys like to keep on blabbering how how his skin is indestructible- fine. Maybe it is. That's why Tobirama will have to aim for the eyes.

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This is one of the worst posts I've seen you make man :( I mean really? Sword through the eye??? I don't see Tobirama lasting very long in this fight to be honest. Raikage can fight for days without tiring, his chakra is arguably more than Tobirama's, his speed surpasses Tobirama's (excluding ftg) and since Tobirama's ftg isn't as versatile as Minato's it won't help him for too long until he gets caught.
Low-balling Tobirama here.

Tobirama was able to create two kage bunshin, compared to SM Hashirama's six while holding up a kage level barrier. Now, we know that SM amplifies everything; ninjutsu/genjutsu/taijutsu & chakra reserves due to the addition of nature chakra. Base Hashirama compared his volume of chakra to Kurama's and was able to make six bunshin (in Sage Mode) as stated before, Tobirama made two. Honestly, from this, Tobirama probably has half the chakra reserves of base Hashirama so at least half of the Kyuubi. It's plausible considering he's a top tier Senju and they're known for having extraordinary reserves/life force.

It doesn't matter if his speed surpasses him since Tobirama has shown probably one of the best reaction feat up to date (not discrediting Sandaime's reflexes). The 3rd is probably as fast as Ay and from logical conclusions, we can establish that Tobirama can indeed react to Ay.

We haven't a clue how Tobirama fights so we gotta make up scenarios for him. This fight with Juubito really doesn't count since he's teaming up with others and the fact that he's literally going up against a god.
 

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Tobirama doesn't deserve a Top 10 spot nor does he deserve a Top 15 spot.

OT: Raikage wins.

Speaks the truth

Naruto beats him
Obito beats him
Madara beats him
Hashirama beats him
Nagato beats him
Minato beats him
Killer Bee beats him
Itachi Beats him
Sasuke beats him
Kisame beats him

Theres 10 (Those wern't in order before anyone flips)
 

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3rd Raikage kills him with Nukite. Tobirama can't even scratch him w/o Edo Tensei.
 

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Until new Suiton feats are revealed, Raikage takes this pretty easily.
 

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This is a joke. What fanboys? I certainly don't see them.

I remember those fanboys from hell.One was called 'S.A.G.E' he thought Tobirama > EMS Sasuke.U_U
 

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I remember those fanboys from hell.One was called 'S.A.G.E' he thought Tobirama > EMS Sasuke.U_U

Ah, that explains it. He's always been like that, I've even gone off at him for it. I still don't understand how people can branch us all up with folk like him.

I see three different types of fanboy on this base:

1) People like 'SAGE' who overhype Tobirama to a rediculous extent - who most people shouldn't even take seriously.

2) People who try to assert that they are the top fanboy by de-hyping Tobirama to a rediculous extent (There's only one, really.).

3) People like Rivallie, Fresco, Sacrosant, etc and myself - who try to stay out of Tobirama vs debates untill we are given proper details with which to accurately asses how strong he is. I get dragged in occasionally but I try to play by only what we know and not throw hyperbole left, right and center.

I just don't really care about where he is in a top ten tbh, it doesn't affect how much I like his character.
 

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Ah, that explains it. He's always been like that, I've even gone off at him for it. I still don't understand how people can branch us all up with folk like him.

I see three different types of fanboy on this base:

1) People like 'SAGE' who overhype Tobirama to a rediculous extent - who most people shouldn't even take seriously.

2) People who try to assert that they are the top fanboy by de-hyping Tobirama to a rediculous extent (There's only one, really.).

3) People like Rivallie, Fresco, Sacrosant, etc and myself - who try to stay out of Tobirama vs debates untill we are given proper details with which to accurately asses how strong he is. I get dragged in occasionally but I try to play by only what we know and not throw hyperbole left, right and center.

I just don't really care about where he is in a top ten tbh, it doesn't affect how much I like his character.

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I concur with this perfect post, i think the second one is aimed at the Penguin guy.Lol
 

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Ah, that explains it. He's always been like that, I've even gone off at him for it. I still don't understand how people can branch us all up with folk like him.

I see three different types of fanboy on this base:

1) People like 'SAGE' who overhype Tobirama to a rediculous extent - who most people shouldn't even take seriously.

2) People who try to assert that they are the top fanboy by de-hyping Tobirama to a rediculous extent (There's only one, really.).

3) People like Rivallie, Fresco, Sacrosant, etc and myself - who try to stay out of Tobirama vs debates untill we are given proper details with which to accurately asses how strong he is. I get dragged in occasionally but I try to play by only what we know and not throw hyperbole left, right and center.

I just don't really care about where he is in a top ten tbh, it doesn't affect how much I like his character.
This is a good post.
 

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It really depends if Tobirama has two edos to start out with. Tobirama has the reflexes to dodge the Raikage for a little bit, but after that nothing much will happen unless Tobirama has Edos to nuke the Raikage with.

Ah, that explains it. He's always been like that, I've even gone off at him for it. I still don't understand how people can branch us all up with folk like him.

I see three different types of fanboy on this base:

1) People like 'SAGE' who overhype Tobirama to a rediculous extent - who most people shouldn't even take seriously.

2) People who try to assert that they are the top fanboy by de-hyping Tobirama to a rediculous extent (There's only one, really.).

3) People like Rivallie, Fresco, Sacrosant, etc and myself - who try to stay out of Tobirama vs debates untill we are given proper details with which to accurately asses how strong he is. I get dragged in occasionally but I try to play by only what we know and not throw hyperbole left, right and center.

I just don't really care about where he is in a top ten tbh, it doesn't affect how much I like his character.

Wonder who might that be.


Tobirama fanboys overrate the shit out of him. Minato obviously beats him.

:|

That's what I used to think but Tobirama fan boys flame the hell out of me for saying otherwise, especially when they see Minato above him :rolleyes:

But anyway I feel that the third Raikage is top 10 and even though I think that anyone with FTG is overpowered, I don't see how he hurts Rakage.

"Tobirama fans"? Not all of them. Up yours.
 

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It really depends if Tobirama has two edos to start out with. Tobirama has the reflexes to dodge the Raikage for a little bit, but after that nothing much will happen unless Tobirama has Edos to nuke the Raikage with.



Wonder who might that be.



:|



"Tobirama fans"? Not all of them. Up yours.

It may be true but don't get it twisted. You're still a Tobirama Boi up there with the best of them.
 
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