Third Raikage vs Minato Namikaze

[Apêx1]

Minato wins with Shima and Fukasak? Nope. Sound genjutsu is countered when it's blown away, as shown in Temari blowing away Tayuya's sound genjutsu. 3rd simply needs to make shockwaves he's shown in canon to blow it away. And do note, this is simply assuming he gets the chance to summon Shima and Fukasaku; something that will never happen as he will consistently disturb the process with Hirashin.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I didn't restrict toads; boss and support toads at least (although Minato has no feats of summoning support toads even if it stands to reason that he could). Besides, the location for this matchup is rather inconvenient for using giant summons. I'm not even entirely sure that using Food Cart Destroyer would even work on someone like the Third Raikage

Does Gerotora the scroll toad not count as a support toad?

In 1 battle, minato summoned 2 toads, shows he used them a lot. And his relationship with them was good.

And wow, the post about using shockwaves was so retarded. He stuck his 3 finger stab into the ground, and then slashed the ground and used the sand to blow away the fodder. He doesn't create shockwaves Lol. Nor would that stop powerful sound Genjutsu from reaching his ears.

Minato wins with Shima and Fukasak? Nope. Sound genjutsu is countered when it's blown away, as shown in Temari blowing away Tayuya's sound genjutsu. 3rd simply needs to make shockwaves he's shown in canon to blow it away. And do note, this is simply assuming he gets the chance to summon Shima and Fukasaku; something that will never happen as he will consistently disturb the process with Hirashin.

lol, if only minato used clones... Oh wait he does.

If only minato could summon a boss toad to help him out... Oh wait he does. Jiraya stood still on top of Ken, while he fended off the enemy and protected jiraya, until he was ready.

 

[Selan]

Minato dodges him, marks him and seals him.

 

[Apêx1]

Does Gerotora the scroll toad not count as a support toad?

In 1 battle, minato summoned 2 toads, shows he used them a lot. And his relationship with them was good.

And wow, the post about using shockwaves was so retarded. He stuck his 3 finger stab into the ground, and then slashed the ground and used the sand to blow away the fodder. He doesn't create shockwaves Lol. Nor would that stop powerful sound Genjutsu from reaching his ears.



lol, if only minato used clones... Oh wait he does.

If only minato could summon a boss toad to help him out... Oh wait he does. Jiraya stood still on top of Ken, while he fended off the enemy and protected jiraya, until he was ready.

If only Minato's clones held any relevance since only one can utilise the ritual, which will become blatantly obvious to the 3rd Raikage..

If only the toads could do anything to prevent themselves from getting blitzed and then one shotted with 2 finger hellstab...

 

[KidGamer65]

Raikage outlasts, cause there is no way Minato is going to figure out how to kill him with limited intel.

 

[Gold Lightning]

If only Minato's clones held any relevance since only one can utilise the ritual, which will become blatantly obvious to the 3rd Raikage..

If only the toads could do anything to prevent themselves from getting blitzed and then one shotted with 2 finger hellstab...

And how does the third raikage get to minato with the clone protecting minato? Is he gonna run straight into him with a finger stab? Space time barrier keeps him away. The real minato can literally sit down without a worry, since the clone just redirects the raikage from getting anywhere close.

Toads can swim and fight underwater and hold their breath for long periods of time underwater, this is the valley of the end afterall. Minato can conceal himself within a toads mouth, while the toad goes under water. Raikage cant exactly match a toad in speed or breathing underwater. So yeah, minato has multiple ways of gaining time.

Raikage outlasts, cause there is no way Minato is going to figure out how to kill him with limited intel.

Minato seals his ass, no outlasting needed.

 

[KidGamer65]

As long as Minato has something he can seal the Raikage into, that could actually work. That also assumes the Raikage doesn't smash the ceremonial altar and the target he's getting sealed into before Minato can seal him away.

 

[Gold Lightning]

As long as Minato has something he can seal the Raikage into, that could actually work. That also assumes the Raikage doesn't smash the ceremonial altar and the target he's getting sealed into before Minato can seal him away.

Well scrolls are used to seal things into. Gerotora being a scroll toad and all suits the purpose.

Only problem is in order to use the 4 trigrams seal, the opponent or beast has to be restrained first. Hence why minato was going to use a barrier to hold down kurama. I'd say food cart destroyer is enough to old him down long enough though, since it held down kurama.

 

[Bogard]

The 8 trigrams seal(double 4 symbol seal) working was unfortunately off-paneled in the manga. However, it should have similar working to Danzo's ura shishou fuin(reverse four symbol seal) judging by the similarity in names

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And according to Turrin's translation of the latest databook, he says Danzo's ura shishou fuin is described as a strong version of Shishou Fuin, further cementing the possibility in simiarity in workings and if it really works this way, then even without restrain, it'd be a high difficult sealing jutsu to escape considering both Sasuke and Obito barely escaped it despite warning

According to Obito(the knowledgeable bastard), it was set up to activate when he(Danzo) was about to bite the dust. I suppose he placed the seal command on his body at some point and in Minato's case, probably only has to place a seal command on an object(considering the databook of shishou fuin says it can be used on an object) and set it off when he wants to seal any nearby opponent similarly to how it worked with Danzo. To seal the remaining half of Kyubi inside Naruto, i suppose he put the seal on the baby and it set off to seal anything nearby inside the baby

 

[Gold Lightning]

The 8 trigrams seal(double 4 symbol seal) working was unfortunately off-paneled in the manga. However, it should have similar working to Danzo's ura shishou fuin(reverse four symbol seal) judging by the similarity in names

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And according to Turrin's translation of the latest databook, he says Danzo's ura shishou fuin is described as a strong version of Shishou Fuin, further cementing the possibility in simiarity in workings and if it really works this way, then even without restrain, it'd be a high difficult sealing jutsu to escape considering both Sasuke and Obito barely escaped it despite warning

According to Obito(the knowledgeable bastard), it was set up to activate when he(Danzo) was about to bite the dust. I suppose he placed the seal command on his body at some point and in Minato's case, probably only has to place a seal command on an object(considering the databook of shishou fuin says it can be used on an object) and set it off when he wants to seal any nearby opponent similarly to how it worked with Danzo. To seal the remaining half of Kyubi inside Naruto, i suppose he put the seal on the baby and it set off to seal anything nearby inside the baby

This right here.

Makes sense that the jutsu must have its own kind of expansion once it is initiated. Minato sealed the entire of kurama, and both the remaining chakra of himself and kushina. All of which were all close together. So after minato placed the seal on narutos stomach, it consumed all of them. Of course minato can construct it how he wants, so it only sealed in their chakra and not their bodies.

 

[Apêx1]

And how does the third raikage get to minato with the clone protecting minato? Is he gonna run straight into him with a finger stab? Space time barrier keeps him away. The real minato can literally sit down without a worry, since the clone just redirects the raikage from getting anywhere close.

Toads can swim and fight underwater and hold their breath for long periods of time underwater, this is the valley of the end afterall. Minato can conceal himself within a toads mouth, while the toad goes under water. Raikage cant exactly match a toad in speed or breathing underwater. So yeah, minato has multiple ways of gaining time.

Minato seals his ass, no outlasting needed.

What? Did you just say Minato can counter Raikage's attacks with S/T barrier? Lol. Raikage either is too close for it to be viable or he simply goes around it (since it's stationary)/ sends shockwaves that will have to be teleported instantly. How exactly will Minato be concealed when the Raikage will be able to see Minato go in 1 of 2 toads he has potential to summon (chakra feats? I actually doubt he can summon two boss sized toads and 2 elder toads). Minato can breathe inside a Toads's mouth while underwater? Tell me more.. I need some feats of this amazingness, I'll wait.. Forever...

Raikage can't match a toads speed now? My god, if anything he blitzes it before it even prepares its next move. And since when does Raikage need to swim to counter an underwater opponent? You do realise he has black lightning and normal Raiton, he destroys the toad(s) with utmost ease.

Seals him? Not happening. Raikage destroys everything in his path as shown in the manga, with shockwaves and hell stab. That includes, but is not limited to; kunai's, rituals, toads, clones and Minato himself.

 

[Strict]

Minato would win. Jumping from one Hiraishin mark to another doesn't seem to cost much. And as Minato has high Chakra reserves due to him being able to learn Sage Mode, he can keep this going and going. Actually, for the Sandaime, simple Shunshin would be enough to dodge him. And you underestimate Minato's intellect if you think that in the long run, he won't try something like Naruto did with the Rasengan. If he understands that he can't hurt him otherwise, sooner or later he will begin to build up a strategy based on his analysis. Whether he will do it or not is not the question of a vs-thread. In a vs-thread we discuss their possibilities. And doing what Naruto did is within Minato's capabilities. It's not like it is realistic that they will play a game of cat an mouse for a whole day until Minato runs out of Chakra. Sooner or later Minato will come up with a strategy.

If Minato gets sick of it, he calls Ma and Pa and lets them perform the frog song and makes him his slave. Paralyses him, gouges his eyes out and pisses in his eye socket.

 

[Haizaki]

Minato would win. Jumping from one Hiraishin mark to another doesn't seem to cost much. And as Minato has high Chakra reserves due to him being able to learn Sage Mode, he can keep this going and going. Actually, for the Sandaime, simple Shunshin would be enough to dodge him. And you underestimate Minato's intellect if you think that in the long run, he won't try something like Naruto did with the Rasengan. If he understands that he can't hurt him otherwise, sooner or later he will begin to build up a strategy based on his analysis. Whether he will do it or not is not the question of a vs-thread. In a vs-thread we discuss their possibilities. And doing what Naruto did is within Minato's capabilities. It's not like it is realistic that they will play a game of cat an mouse for a whole day until Minato runs out of Chakra. Sooner or later Minato will come up with a strategy.

If Minato gets sick of it, he calls Ma and Pa and lets them perform the frog song and makes him his slave. Paralyses him, gouges his eyes out and pisses in his eye socket.

They can't paralyze The Raikage

 

[Demonic.]

Boss summons are useless, the third plows through like they're made of butter. Minato needed Kushina to hold Kurama down with her chakra chains. And considering even something as dumb as Kurama figured out Minato was planning to seal him, Third Raikage isn't getting sealed.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Boss summons are useless, the third plows through like they're made of butter. Minato needed Kushina to hold Kurama down with her chakra chains. And considering even something as dumb as Kurama figured out Minato was planning to seal him, Third Raikage isn't getting sealed.

minato was gonna hold kurama down with his own barrier. kushina just did it instead.

and kurama has been sealed multiple times, and he knows all about uzumaki seals since he han been inside 2 of them for decades.

raikage doesnt have that same knowledge, uzumaki seals were secret

 

[Demonic.]

minato was gonna hold kurama down with his own barrier. kushina just did it instead.

and kurama has been sealed multiple times, and he knows all about uzumaki seals since he han been inside 2 of them for decades.

raikage doesnt have that same knowledge, uzumaki seals were secret

They did put up a barrier

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The chakra chains where still needed to keep it in place while Minato sealed it. The barrier was so it wouldn't escape. 3rd Raikage being as fast as V1 Ay, won't be staying still without the chakra chains.

 

[Gold Lightning]

They did put up a barrier

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The chakra chains where still needed to keep it in place while Minato sealed it. The barrier was so it wouldn't escape. 3rd Raikage being as fast as V1 Ay, won't be staying still without the chakra chains.

Yes, kushinas barrier. Not Minato's barrier. Kushina put up the barrier, not Minato.

v1 is like a snail against minato, no where near fast enough. Minato will mark him early on, that's unavoidable. Food cart destroyer will hold him down easily. 10x easier if the raikage is marked, Minato just teleports the toad on top of him, no way he'll react on time. I know 3rd is durable, but the full force of a toad crushing you from above will pack a punch. He won't be getting up straight away.

 

[Demonic.]

Yes, kushinas barrier. Not Minato's barrier. Kushina put up the barrier, not Minato.

v1 is like a snail against minato, no where near fast enough. Minato will mark him early on, that's unavoidable. Food cart destroyer will hold him down easily. 10x easier if the raikage is marked, Minato just teleports the toad on top of him, no way he'll react on time. I know 3rd is durable, but the full force of a toad crushing you from above will pack a punch. He won't be getting up straight away.

What does it matter if Kushina set up the barrier? A barrier is a barrier Lol Minato still needed Kushina to pin Kurama down with chakra chains.

But you do have a point with Food Cart Destroyer.

 

[Gold Lightning]

What does it matter if Kushina set up the barrier? A barrier is a barrier Lol Minato still needed Kushina to pin Kurama down with chakra chains.

But you do have a point with Food Cart Destroyer.

My point was minato is capable of creating a strong enough barrier to confine a tailed beast of Kurama's level, you said Minato needed kushina, which wasn't entirely true. Unfortunately he didn't get to use it .

And thanks

 

[Great Master Minato]

Call Me Back When Raikage Could Touch Minato
Lol@ Minato Can't Figure Out Raikage's Weakness...I Really Doubt That There's Anything This Guy Can't Figure Out!
He Was Shown To Be The Smartest Character In The Series When He's Calm!