Thing about the Sarutobi fight.

[KingHashirama]

People usually say, Sarutobi "beat" Edo Hashirama and Tobirama .. right?? But I kind of find even that bullshit, because Tobirama and HAshirama were playing around with Sarutobi ;x And screwed up Sarutobi really bad. And forced him to use a suicide move. Meaning he didn't beat anyone really.. instead killed himself, cause he couldn't beat them =D. The paper bomb part was a joke to edos.. Its like saying Tsunade beat Madara because she ripped half of his body.. lmao.


Edo Hashirama and Tobirama screwed up Sarutobi. ^_^. Only weak person in that fight was Oro.

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

*facepalm* these threads get tiring.

How about this: Hashirama was the worst shinobi in history.

There. Is that what you wanted? Because that's what threads like this will eventually produce. Just thought I'd throw it out there early.

K. thx. bye.

 

[Kettei]

I agree.Plus it was part 1

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

People usually say, Sarutobi "beat" Edo Hashirama and Tobirama .. right?? But I kind of find even that bullshit, because Tobirama and HAshirama were playing around with Sarutobi ;x And screwed up Sarutobi really bad. And forced him to use a suicide move. Meaning he didn't beat anyone really.. instead killed himself, cause he couldn't beat them =D. The paper bomb part was a joke to edos.. Its like saying Tsunade beat Madara because she ripped half of his body.. lmao.

Plus the power levels in part. 1 and part. 2 was way different and kishi wanted to portray hurizen as beast mode b4 his bitch ass died -_-
Hashi solos if they both fight now tobirama would just go swimming lml
Edo Hashirama and Tobirama screwed up Sarutobi. ^_^. Only weak person in that fight was Oro. [/Q

Orochimaru isn't weak what u mean -_____-
Think about what he did to 4 tailed naruto with out hands and was sick in need of changing a body

Now he should've did tht to hurizen and when him and Jariya + tsunade was fighting 10,000 snakes at once all with blades coming out of there mouth(just 1 of the things he did)

 

[GenKiDama]

kishi didn't think that far ahead with hashirama i guess.

 

[Simple Math]

lets just say they got trolled as edos

 

[xjimbox]

People usually say, Sarutobi "beat" Edo Hashirama and Tobirama .. right?? But I kind of find even that bullshit, because Tobirama and HAshirama were playing around with Sarutobi ;x And screwed up Sarutobi really bad. And forced him to use a suicide move. Meaning he didn't beat anyone really.. instead killed himself, cause he couldn't beat them =D. The paper bomb part was a joke to edos.. Its like saying Tsunade beat Madara because she ripped half of his body.. lmao.




Edo Hashirama and Tobirama screwed up Sarutobi. ^_^. Only weak person in that fight was Oro.

Kabuto is better and the third would have no chance if it was Kabuto and not oro

 

[Unum]

Regardless of who beat who, I have to admit that it's still very impressive that Hiruzen was able to hang with all three of them for a while, and that's when he was an old fart. He probably wouldn't have had to use a suicide move if he had been in his prime. I don't think that fight even displayed half of what he was once able to do.

He was called the "God of Shinobi" after all.

 

[Mellanoma]

Honestly due to recent events in the series it was impossible for 2nd and 1st to be at 100%. Orochimaru had 100% control over them so it would have been impossible for them to be at full strength.

Main and only reason I really need to explain is that the 2nd (and im sure orochimaru) knew about cancelling your own contract with edo tensei and to prevent the 1st or 2nd from using it orochimaru kept them as mindless puppets.

 

[thegame]

Yes 1/3 of hirus strength was more than hashiramas strength. Just grabbing his arms so he could use seals and perform the strongest seal in history U_U

Besides... Hiru didn't use a suicide spell to take down Hashirama and Tobirama, he used it to remove 2/3 of his chakra in form of bunshins U_U

Now get lost pls

 

[Narutofan4203]

They were toying with him, kicking his ass, and he had to seal him.

 

[LegendaryAce]

Yes 1/3 of hirus strength was more than hashiramas strength. Just grabbing his arms so he could use seals and perform the strongest seal in history U_U

Besides... Hiru didn't use a suicide spell to take down Hashirama and Tobirama, he used it to remove 2/3 of his chakra in form of bunshins U_U

Now get lost pls

he used 1/3 of his strength?
he didn't use a suicide move?
he is the strongest ?

strength wise hashirama > tsunade from what ive read ...if hiruzen is stronger than that then damn hiruzen > all the hokage at the same time

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

kishi didn't think that far ahead with hashirama i guess.

someone who gets it right basically it was way early in the show tobira and hashi werent fully developed

 

[Unum]

someone who gets it right basically it was way early in the show tobira and hashi werent fully developed

True

But even if Kishi rewrote the entire fight today, I'm pretty sure all the essential points of the fight would still be the same and lead to the same result.

 

[Exaar]

he used 1/3 of his strength?
he didn't use a suicide move?
he is the strongest ?

strength wise hashirama > tsunade from what ive read ...if hiruzen is stronger than that then damn hiruzen > all the hokage at the same time

I'm guessing you mean physical strength, if so then you must be reading the wrong manga.

 

[Midday]

Tobirama and Hashirama couldn't have been that far ahead of Hiruzen since they got fatal injuries from the explosion tags, when toying you shouldn't really let that happen. The 70 year old man still solo'd.

 

[Sunagura]

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look at the difference between the picture

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

CONTROLLED EDO'S ARE NOT THE REAL CHARACTERS, NO ONE CAN USE THE CHARACTER'S POWER BETTER THAN HIM/HERSELF. but the fact that hiruzen handled the situation well in his old weak state (a joke compared to his prime) is unbelievable, i mean imagine his prime ....

 

[thegame]

he used 1/3 of his strength?
he didn't use a suicide move?
he is the strongest ?

strength wise hashirama > tsunade from what ive read ...if hiruzen is stronger than that then damn hiruzen > all the hokage at the same time

He made 2 bunshins, so he split his power in to 3 parts. The bunshins had enough strength to hold hashirama and tobirama from using their hands. Thus they couldn't use seals. Perhaps he used a monkey grab technique, who knows, but it doesn't change the fact.

And no using the seal with bunshins didn't appear to be a suicde move. If you can seal just part of someones body, you can also seal just a part of your chakra pool. Just like Minato did when he sealed a bit of his chakra inside Naruto. THAT is why the seal is the strongest. And saying "he needed a suicide tech" is rubbish and only fan kids who didn't read into the properties of the jutsu would say shit like that U_U

And Tsunade is stronger than Hashirama and Hiruzen in pure strength.....

 

[LegendaryAce]

He made 2 bunshins, so he split his power in to 3 parts. The bunshins had enough strength to hold hashirama and tobirama from using their hands. Thus they couldn't use seals. Perhaps he used a monkey grab technique, who knows, but it doesn't change the fact.

And no using the seal with bunshins didn't appear to be a suicde move. If you can seal just part of someones body, you can also seal just a part of your chakra pool. Just like Minato did when he sealed a bit of his chakra inside Naruto. THAT is why the seal is the strongest. And saying "he needed a suicide tech" is rubbish and only fan kids who didn't read into the properties of the jutsu would say shit like that U_U

And Tsunade is stronger than Hashirama and Hiruzen in pure strength.....

fair point with the tsunade thing i just though hashi would be stronger

if you watch the anime and read the manga you see that he had no choice he couldnt do anything else the only thing he could do was use a move that was guaranteed to work ...but it kills you in return he failed to take orochimaru with him also - he knows over 1k jutsus so why does he just come up with a plan better than killing himself