These feminist idiots smh...

[Jazzy Stardust]

It's not a big deal at all to me. But I guess feminists are entitled to their opinion as well. Just seems a little silly, he accomplished so much but people have to always find something to hate on.

 

[Multiply]

Get mad when a man criticizes what they wear, end up criticizing a man for what he wears.

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Feminists are so brilliant.

 

[The Dreamer]

inb4 Ira.

EDIT: Oops, too late.

Lol

OT: What a bunch of retards.

 

[Avani]

In all honesty Ira do you think a person such as him should be treated like a monster because a shirt depicting scantily clad comic book females on it? That too at the cost of totally ignoring the fact that we just had one of the greatest achievements after Mars probe landing? (There is more articles on Kim Kardashin and that shirt than that meteor landing) Yes he might have noted that it might have been inappropriate but after achieving his life's work he might not have been at the right normal state of mind (Archimedes ran naked across a town after discovering a principle) and for that petty a mistake that degree of public shaming is warranted according to you?

Also yes if a friend one lingerie ofc that person would wear it, under the garments. Scientists are not known for fashion and social senses but they know where to wear their lingerie.

Btw ever heard of SlutWalks?

I don't care about his shirt personally nor for those **** walkers( although you seem to totally missed their point- the **** walker are against objectification and about a declaration that wearing a certain type of clothes doesn't amount to consent). But one needs to know when it's a formal occasion and when they are attending a club. If in doubt- go conventional.

If people are going to react this much to every dumb article or wear dumb clothes they have only themselves to blame. That shirt is ugly and not fit be worn to a work place in a scientific organization and to be paraded on such an occasion in a setting where it's bound to get attention.

Now the scientist indeed decided to make a fashion statement - too bad that he got the attention but differently than he intended. Some one posted an article making fun of it and it goes viral. Shouldn't you be able to chose to focus on what seems important to you and ignore irrelevant squabble?

People reacting to that article complaining about the shirt are also wasting their time in the same way as those feminists. Why don't you chose which issue is paying attention to and which one is not? Let's accept it, the only reason the feminist article was able to achieve more hits because people seem to love locking heads in a war of sexes more than any science project. People are more concerned about fashion and what the other one is wearing than any mars landing. Make a thread about the scientific achievement and see how many passionate posts we get similar to this thread.

It's simply over reaction by both sides. It's not like I see anyone in this thread or any other discussing what a mile stone the mars landing was or how and what humanity hopes to achieve from it. If the said feminists made it all about them you are contributing to it.

If Archimedes ran naked across a town today, people would have already uploaded his image and made meme out of it.

 

[10th]

I heard about this news before, it pissed me off to no end, they ruined a mans proudest moment by shaming him for wearing a shirt which he has every right to wear and be proud, not to mention the fact that his female friend gave him that but no, they guilt-trip him and most likely forced him to apologize or lose his job, bringing him to the point of tears on live TV when he has just made a real contribution to humanity. He doesn't deserve this, these feminists need to be eradicated from the planet, they're insecure and cancerous, I can't swear but this really made me hate feminists.

 

[Frankenstein]

Lel, I don't see why should anyone find this shirt offensive by western culture standards.

Hideous, even irritating to the eye (it's like David Seaman chose it for him)? Yeah sure mock him for that (I hope he had a valid reason to wear it lol) but sexist? Classic feminazi reaction.

 

[Avani]

Lel, I don't see why should anyone find this shirt offensive by western culture standards.

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Do you guys really wear that kind of shirt at work place and do not see a problem with that?

For me- This is not a shirt you wear to represent your team on such a occasion to give an interview for an educational setting. Yes he was free to wear that shirt if he was not working that day but then he shouldn't be on camera. That shirt was louder than whatever he was saying and was a distraction and was clearly an improper attire for the occasion.

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Hideous, even irritating to the eye (it's like David Seaman chose it for him)? Yeah sure mock him for that (I hope he had a valid reason to wear it lol) but sexist? Classic feminazi reaction.

There you said it- probably without even thinking all the reasons to why it was irritating. And mocking is what most woman are doing.

"When we ask for women in science, we do not mean naked woman on the shirt of male scientists."

-The suppose stupid feminists.

Why is it ok for you to mock him but not the women who have more reasons to not like micro-aggression at work places?

It's not about one or two incidences- but usually for women it's keeps building on ultimately making it uncomfortable to work in such a setting where one never knows if the person next to her is going to appreciate her for her work or for the *** appeal she has. -Would he behave nicely only till he is not being asked to stop hitting on me? Would he even pay attention if me request them to stop? " it wouldn't turn into harassment and singling me out for minor or even made up mistakes if I ask them to stop". These are the question a lot of woman end up asking themselves on routine basis in male dominated work environment. It doesn't help when one finds the person next to her is wearing a shirt clearly objectifying women". Yes it was objectification. I wonder why no one told the guy to find a coat at least before the camera started rolling.

How seriously can you take a woman in a educational setting if she is wearing a T-shirt with naked men in different provocative poses? Say a bowling shirt covered in cartoonized penises and cartoony weaponry to, teach a class or talk science on international TV ... what would the response be to that?

Different women doing it at different times but frequently while they are running the most of the office, in positions to make your life hell if you do not toe the line? Yea I know I will probably get some responses claiming that would be real fun but what if you are trying to work and not looking for a sexual encounter?

As for internet hysteria over the issue- it's not one sided either- the online viciousness and sexual abuses and attacks by men getting ignored so conveniently which was as unwanted and over reaction by some feminist extremist. The polarization over the criticism of a poor dress sense lead to things deteriorating to this extent.

For me the shirt is not a problem- the problem is that people fail to see the problem with that shirt.

 

[Frankenstein]

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Do you guys really wear that kind of shirt at work place and do not see a problem with that?

For me- This is not a shirt you wear to represent your team on such a occasion to give an interview for an educational setting. Yes he was free to wear that shirt if he was not working that day but then he shouldn't be on camera. That shirt was louder than whatever he was saying and was a distraction and was clearly an improper attire for the occasion.

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There you said it- probably without even thinking all the reasons to why it was irritating. And mocking is what most woman are doing.

"When we ask for women in science, we do not mean naked woman on the shirt of male scientists."

-The suppose stupid feminists.

Why is it ok for you to mock him but not the women who have more reasons to not like micro-aggression at work places?

It's not about one or two incidences- but usually for women it's keeps building on ultimately making it uncomfortable to work in such a setting where one never knows if the person next to her is going to appreciate her for her work or for the *** appeal she has. -Would he behave nicely only till he is not being asked to stop hitting on me? Would he even pay attention if me request them to stop? " it wouldn't turn into harassment and singling me out for minor or even made up mistakes if I ask them to stop". These are the question a lot of woman end up asking themselves on routine basis in male dominated work environment. It doesn't help when one finds the person next to her is wearing a shirt clearly objectifying women". Yes it was objectification. I wonder why no one told the guy to find a coat at least before the camera started rolling.

How seriously can you take a woman in a educational setting if she is wearing a T-shirt with naked men in different provocative poses? Say a bowling shirt covered in cartoonized penises and cartoony weaponry to, teach a class or talk science on international TV ... what would the response be to that?

Different women doing it at different times but frequently while they are running the most of the office, in positions to make your life hell if you do not toe the line? Yea I know I will probably get some responses claiming that would be real fun but what if you are trying to work and not looking for a sexual encounter?

As for internet hysteria over the issue- it's not one sided either- the online viciousness and sexual abuses and attacks by men getting ignored so conveniently which was as unwanted and over reaction by some feminist extremist. The polarization over the criticism of a poor dress sense lead to things deteriorating to this extent.

For me the shirt is not a problem- the problem is that people fail to see the problem with that shirt.

First I would like to say that when I said the shirt is irritating to the eye I meant it's too too colorful and too many faces on it that can cause nausea to someone who is trying to pay attention to what he is saying.

Which brings me to the next point, which you correctly adressed too and I implied in my post. The shirt is obviously not the proper one to wear at such an occasion. Not just because it's not serious, I can excuse that because many scientists try (too hard sometimes) to look "cool" and not overly serious when they are presented with a chance to do so. The main point is that it is distracting, which you don't want when you are giving a speech or generally talking about a serious matter.

On the other hand though, the shirt although it is kind of a mess it doesn't portray any naked women as far as I see. It is portraying the classic western archetype of a woman with guns and stuff wearing tight revealing outfits. Just like any western female superhero. You can't say that that's sexist. It's just the archetype. All western female superheroes wear latex and generally very tight outfits. Maybe that's sexist, maybe not. Their male counterparts are dressed exactly like that after all. It is objectifying for both but what to do, there are no other superheroes and also what can they do, tight outfits are practical

If a man wants to wear a superhero shirt then what can he do? Wear a male superhero and they will call you a dork. Wear a female superhero and you are objectifying women (you were objectifying men with the male one too but no one cared lel). The solution would be to not wear such a shirt at all.

What I want to say is that the man just wanted to wear a "cool" shirt featuring something that would have a remote connection to space and at the same time it would be his style. He is covered in tattoos so he generally obviously doesn't follow the politically correct dress code. He made the mistake of being to faithful to himself and to his style and he apologised for it afterwards.

But again, I accept that this is not the right shirt to wear when you are broadcasted all over the world and you should know that the women that will watch you will not be happy. Most of them will not be happy because they have no interest in female superheroes or whatever wearing latex and some of them will overreact because whenever they see something that offends them they want to cause a shitstorm.

 

[10th]

First I would like to say that when I said the shirt is irritating to the eye I meant it's too too colorful and too many faces on it that can cause nausea to someone who is trying to pay attention to what he is saying.

Which brings me to the next point, which you correctly adressed too and I implied in my post. The shirt is obviously not the proper one to wear at such an occasion. Not just because it's not serious, I can excuse that because many scientists try (too hard sometimes) to look "cool" and not overly serious when they are presented with a chance to do so. The main point is that it is distracting, which you don't want when you are giving a speech or generally talking about a serious matter.

On the other hand though, the shirt although it is kind of a mess it doesn't portray any naked women as far as I see. It is portraying the classic western archetype of a woman with guns and stuff wearing tight revealing outfits. Just like any western female superhero. You can't say that that's sexist. It's just the archetype. All western female superheroes wear latex and generally very tight outfits. Maybe that's sexist, maybe not. Their male counterparts are dressed exactly like that after all. It is objectifying for both but what to do, there are no other superheroes and also what can they do, tight outfits are practical

If a man wants to wear a superhero shirt then what can he do? Wear a male superhero and they will call you a dork. Wear a female superhero and you are objectifying women (you were objectifying men with the male one too but no one cared lel). The solution would be to not wear such a shirt at all.

What I want to say is that the man just wanted to wear a "cool" shirt featuring something that would have a remote connection to space and at the same time it would be his style. He is covered in tattoos so he generally obviously doesn't follow the politically correct dress code. He made the mistake of being to faithful to himself and to his style and he apologised for it afterwards.

But again, I accept that this is not the right shirt to wear when you are broadcasted all over the world and you should know that the women that will watch you will not be happy. Most of them will not be happy because they have no interest in female superheroes or whatever wearing latex and some of them will overreact because whenever they see something that offends them they want to cause a shitstorm.

The way I see it, this was his way of celebrating his success and showing who he is as a unique individual. To look past the mans achievement and complain about his shirt which is flashy and has meaning is very disappointing. What have these feminists contributed to anything aside from whipping men into weak beta males and getting more priveledges for themselves? Honestly, even if they didn't personally like it, the fact that he had to apologize on public TV in tears shows how screwed up society is if they did that to him just to pander to the feminists irrational logic.

 

[Frankenstein]

The way I see it, this was his way of celebrating his success and showing who he is as a unique individual. To look past the mans achievement and complain about his shirt which is flashy and has meaning is very disappointing. What have these feminists contributed to anything aside from whipping men into weak beta males and getting more priveledges for themselves? Honestly, even if they didn't personally like it, the fact that he had to apologize on public TV in tears shows how screwed up society is if they did that to him just to pander to the feminists irrational logic.

He was made to apologise because that's how the media work. It doesn't matter if you were legit at fault or if your mistake was as big as they say. The damage was already done, so an apology is damage limitation.

 

[10th]

He was made to apologise because that's how the media work. It doesn't matter if you were legit at fault or if your mistake was as big as they say. The damage was already done, so an apology is damage limitation.

Why were he in tears then? And what if he refuses?

 

[Frankenstein]

Why were he in tears then? And what if he refuses?

I will not question his tears. Imagine the pressure though, instead of praising you and admiring you as you expected for your achievement they dish you and you are attacked verbally as if you are a horrible human being. Plus being forced to make a public apology is cruel.

Nah you can't refuse, you have to make the shitstorm stop and show you are not what they say. For professional reasons mostly.

 

[10th]

I will not question his tears. Imagine the pressure though, instead of praising you and admiring you as you expected for your achievement they dish you and you are attacked verbally as if you are a horrible human being. Plus being forced to make a public apology is cruel.

Nah you can't refuse, you have to make the shitstorm stop and show you are not what they say. For professional reasons mostly.

I just want to know, if he stood his ground and said no, what's the worse that could happen? Losing his job?

 

[Frankenstein]

I just want to know, if he stood his ground and said no, what's the worse that could happen? Losing his job?

No, because he must be really good so he is needed. No promotion/more money though? Maybe some financial penalty for bad publicity? Possible. Plus you have to understand that when the shitstorm is targeted towards him, it is also targeted against his team and organization he is working with. So the ones above him are affected to, and they don't want that. So you apologise and move on.

 

[10th]

No, because he must be really good so he is needed. No promotion/more money though? Maybe some financial penalty for bad publicity? Possible. Plus you have to understand that when the shitstorm is targeted towards him, it is also targeted against his team and organization he is working with. So the ones above him are affected to, and they don't want that. So you apologise and move on.

Man that sucks, it would definitely make it alot harder to refuse knowing your decision will affect your team.
I don't know though if I could accept being humiliated in public for my teams sake.

 

[Aømine]

Ofc that's wrong but when girls take a pic of a dude in target and spread that shit like he is a piece of meat it's not wrong.
Lol these girls nowadays.

 

[Avani]

The way I see it, this was his way of celebrating his success and showing who he is as a unique individual. To look past the mans achievement and complain about his shirt which is flashy and has meaning is very disappointing. What have these feminists contributed to anything aside from whipping men into weak beta males and getting more priveledges for themselves? Honestly, even if they didn't personally like it, the fact that he had to apologize on public TV in tears shows how screwed up society is if they did that to him just to pander to the feminists irrational logic.

His choice of shirt was the irrational part. Hint- when they talk about space programs and mention 'heavenly bodies' surrounding you they do not mean pin-up females in latex.


Saying just that initial criticism was not wrong. Rest is internet getting out of hand and the company going for damage control.

Man that sucks, it would definitely make it alot harder to refuse knowing your decision will affect your team.
I don't know though if I could accept being humiliated in public for my teams sake.

If it's your biggest day you should pick something which doesn't distract from your achievement. If you are trying to make a statement with your clothes then you are inviting all kind of responses. It's up to you how you want to be defined but if you are representing the whole organization then they have their own statement to make. Here, the success was not his alone. He was part of the team and his personal fashion statement and choice to stand out defeated the purpose of the team as a whole. And that's why he ended up apologizing.

 

[10th]

His choice of shirt was the irrational part. Hint- when they talk about space programs and mention 'heavenly bodies' surrounding you they do not mean pin-up females in latex.


Saying just that initial criticism was not wrong. Rest is internet getting out of hand and the company going for damage control.



If it's your biggest day you should pick something which doesn't distract from your achievement. If you are trying to make a statement with your clothes then you are inviting all kind of responses. It's up to you how you want to be defined but if you are representing the whole organization then they have their own statement to make. Here, the success was not his alone. He was part of the team and his personal fashion statement and choice to stand out defeated the purpose of the team as a whole. And that's why he ended up apologizing.

I'm sure he is aware of what his team and organization stands for better than anyone outside of his employment does. I don't know if they were expecting him to have a lab robe when doing the interview but he could've easily received the same criticism about any shirt or outfit he chose to wear. There was nothing wrong with his particular choice of clothing and the group that responded can't really complain about him objectifying women when a woman gave that to him and probably encouraged him to wear it. I can understand why this happened but I don't like it one bit, we all know no one would even bring up the topic if he had worn a blue shirt with male superheroes.

 

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I'm sure he is aware of what his team and organization stands for better than anyone outside of his employment does. I don't know if they were expecting him to have a lab robe when doing the interview but he could've easily received the same criticism about any shirt or outfit he chose to wear. There was nothing wrong with his particular choice of clothing and the group that responded can't really complain about him objectifying women when a woman gave that to him and probably encouraged him to wear it. I can understand why this happened but I don't like it one bit, we all know no one would even bring up the topic if he had worn a blue shirt with male superheroes.

If they were men in latex where would the feminazi's be

 

[10th]

If they were men in latex where would the feminazi's be

Probably in their basement flicking the bean? I don't know.