[Discussion] There is no way Indra/Sasuke can stronger than Ashura/Naruto (Fact inside!!)

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Hagoromo give his complete body and power to Ashura while Indra only have hagoromo lame eyes.

if Hagoromo award 5 sense to them,, Sasuke only have eye and vision while Naruto have the rest 4 sense + full body power.

There is no doubt Ashura/Naruto would be 10x more powerful than Indra/Sasuke.


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I came here looking for facts....I got none.
 

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well thats kinda obvious, sasuke needed another power up to fight naruto equally
 

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well, he has rinnegan now so whats the point of ur shitty thread
 

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Hagoromo give his complete body and power to Ashura and Indra only have hagoromo lame eyes.

if Hagoromo award 5 sense to them,, Sasuke only have eye and vision while Naruto have the rest 4 sense + full body power.

There is no doubt Ashura/Naruto would be 10x more powerful than Indra/Sasuke.


thanks for reading.

Hagamoro gave the succession of the S06P to his son Ashura therefore giving him the pending ability to become like his father the new S06P though I guess he did not assume that mantle having fought with his brother, so we could assume every descended from Ashura has if they choose to become S06P due to this inheritance given to the son of the S06P Ashura.

Naruto has befriended the beasts and tried saving them therefore earning their respect and friendship and a fistbump giving Naruto a small amount of their chakra. Naruto won't become S06P obviously but I guess he could become one but won't.

Sasuke isn't stronger then Naruto, If he was then he would rely simply on his own ability something the Uchiha proud themselves but he seems to want to distant himself from his clan as some have made threads on through using the chakra of the 9 Biju but that only strengthens the fact Sasuke was weaker then Naruto before using the Bijuu power because had he not done so and Naruto had split his Beast Mode into 3 and turned into Ashura mode and sent one to gather Nature Energy like he did. Sasuke with his Susanao would be completely beaten.
 

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This is why I want to travel the world. To meet people like you.

Not to make fun of or criticize you but to meet people with different opinions/lifestyles/ideas and incorporate them into my life.

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yea this is confirmed by my cousins girlfriends uncles brother in laws step cousin, who is studying in japan for 3 years. He met kishi and they spoke
 

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I don't quite know why people can't face simple facts. If you didn't start reading this manga just yesterday you would clearly know that Naruto could use senjutsu all this time while Sasuke just awaken the rinnegan. Definitely how to use senjutsu doesn't matter as long as you've had practice. Naruto just got a more powerful senjutsu, and more bijuu chakra that he's being using throughout the entire war. Sasuke just awaken the rinnegan, there's no way he'd fight on the same level as naruto right away. Give him time to master his abilities and you would just know how strong the rinnegan is. Kishi hasn't really showed us the full power of the rinnegan. Nagato used it but he was uzumaki, didn't have any of indra's or ashura's chakra and it was borrowed. Obito couldnt handle it. After Madara finally got his hands on them and was ready to smack the hell of Naruto and sasuke, kishi soloed him. Sasuke and Naruto were given the same power, but Naruto already has mastery over his type of power while sasuke has to learn to use it, he's a genius so will definitely figure it really fast. So just stop these threads of naruto being stronger than sasuke or vice versa.
 

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Sasuke's power is what allows him to place all nine of the Bijuu under a Genjutsu and control them. Sasuke's power is what allows him to create a Susano'o and fill it with the chakra of each of the Bijuu. And Sasuke's power is what allows him to perfectly control his Bijuu Chakra Susano'o.

I really don't think relying on the chakra he's captured is somehow a knock against Sasuke; Naruto himself is only in the fight because he has borrowed power from the Bijuu; it is unclear whether to what extent his current "SO6P Senjutsu" mode reflects Ashura's power, and to what extent it is merely Jinchuuriki power. Likewise, even though Naruto is himself a Sage, he was only able to gather such massive amounts of Natural Energy due to having the power of the Bijuu to increase his capacity to balance all of that Natural Energy.

Anyway, Naruto and Sasuke's real powers are simply their individual abilities to harness nearly all of the chakra in the world; thus, their battle naturally comes down to a scramble to collect as much power as possible to throw at one-another. I'm sure the next step would be for Sasuke to attempt to somehow gain Senjutsu (possibly the same way Madara stole Hashirama's using the Rinnegan's rods), and Naruto will counter by trying to latch on to Sasuke's Tailed Beast chakra and steal it (like he did vs. Obito, or like Obito did vs. Madara).
 

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Well naruto has been a jin from the start so he has more power than he should if we are talking indra and ashura and sasuke still overpowered him everytime but now everyone wants to ride narutos latest power up lol.
 

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I grabbed a cup of coffee ready to read some facts. Not a single fact was given.
Ikr? it's sad.
Hagamoro gave the succession of the S06P to his son Ashura therefore giving him the pending ability to become like his father the new S06P though I guess he did not assume that mantle having fought with his brother, so we could assume every descended from Ashura has if they choose to become S06P due to this inheritance given to the son of the S06P Ashura.

Naruto has befriended the beasts and tried saving them therefore earning their respect and friendship and a fistbump giving Naruto a small amount of their chakra. Naruto won't become S06P obviously but I guess he could become one but won't.

Sasuke isn't stronger then Naruto, If he was then he would rely simply on his own ability something the Uchiha proud themselves but he seems to want to distant himself from his clan as some have made threads on through using the chakra of the 9 Biju but that only strengthens the fact Sasuke was weaker then Naruto before using the Bijuu power because had he not done so and Naruto had split his Beast Mode into 3 and turned into Ashura mode and sent one to gather Nature Energy like he did. Sasuke with his Susanao would be completely beaten.
Sasuke = Naruto this whole fight neither was stronger than the other.
well thats kinda obvious, sasuke needed another power up to fight naruto equally

Sasuke = Naruto they both got power-ups at the same time.

Guess you came for common sense, and got none of that to.
This is funny because even you know my post was true.
 
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Hagoromo give his complete body and power to Ashura while Indra only have hagoromo lame eyes.

if Hagoromo award 5 sense to them,, Sasuke only have eye and vision while Naruto have the rest 4 sense + full body power.

There is no doubt Ashura/Naruto would be 10x more powerful than Indra/Sasuke.


thanks for reading.

Too much conjecture, and moreover, yours is lacking.

Decisive evidence:




Knowing the concept of Yin and Yang in Narutoverse, you should realize already that Indra got stronger Chakra and Eyes, while Ashura has stronger body and vital force.

Also, that the powers are balanced. Your assumption that 4 senses > 1 sense is wrong. This implies that eyes = 4 other senses, this is the balance.
 

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Ikr? it's sad.

Sasuke = Naruto this whole fight neither was stronger than the other.



Sasuke = Naruto they both got power-ups at the same time.


This is funny because even you know my post was true.

I read for facts, found none.
But given 396 and Sasuke absorbing the Chakra means Sasuke Non powered Bijuu powered PS < Rikudo Mode Naruto.
Guess him holdin back was for nothing.

His fans touted his Sharinnegan being so powerful soloing the 9 tailed beasts and him using his own version of CT and soon as Naruto gets serious Sasuke's off using the Bijuu's power. Funny shit makes me laugh so much. Guess the hype isn't real.
 

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Now , Sasuke is using a more complex mix of chakra than Naruto.

Don't make the mistake to say that Indra=Sasuke , Sasuke's new mode is more elaborated than the mode that we saw Indra use against Ashura.
Indra's avatar is a perfect Susano'o , pure darkness , Sasuke's is a man of light with 6 fingers and probably with byakugans , inside a susano'o armor of darkness.
 
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Now , Sasuke is using a more complex mix of chakra than Naruto.

Don't make the mistake to say that Indra=Sasuke , Sasuke's new mode is more elaborated than the mode that we saw Indra use against Ashura.
Indra's avatar is a perfect Susano'o , pure darkness , Sasuke's is a man of light inside a susano'o armor of darkness.

Man of Light? There is no light in the things Sasuke is doing. to kill the five Kage that govern their respective villages. to destroy the tailed beasts, though ultimately they helped greatly in the defeat and eventual Victory of the 4th Ninja War. Sasuke attempted to kill several people in his quests. He has always followed the path of darkness and never even though his friends tried helping him most of all Naruto he has never turned from that even for that moment where he fought alongside Naruto and the others guess that was a facade guess Naruto saw through that since he arrived with his ability and all.
 

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Man of Light? There is no light in the things Sasuke is doing.

Not in what he is doing , Sasuke's avatar is a man of light in a susanoo armor of darkness.
Why I say light?
Look at how susanoo's transformation begins:

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It's clearly light coming from inside the susanoo , the guy that appears is a human and seems to have byakugans.
The darkness doesn't cover all the avatar anymore , thanks to the chakra of the beasts.
 
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Not in what he is doing , Sasuke's avatar is a man of light in a susanoo armor of darkness.
Why I say light?
Look at how susanoo's transformation begins:

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It's clearly light coming from inside the susanoo , the guy that appears is a human and seems to have byakugans.

I'm speaking overall but for appearances it is a man of light. Byakugan? Look at the ColorKage chapter for 696. It shows only white eyes and not something that would look at that.
 

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I'm speaking overall but for appearances it is a man of light. Byakugan? Look at the ColorKage chapter for 696. It shows only white eyes and not something that would look at that.

Colorkage is not a proof.I can post pictures where the god tree is coloured by all the colors of a rainbow.
Even if it was , I don't see how you can say that they are not byakugans.

The manga shows a vague face , his eyes are drawn exactly like byakugans would be , I agree that it's vague , just do not deny that possibility.
 
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