Theory: The Truth behind Madara/Tobi

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Ok, so I developed this theory long ago, but today really refined it after discussions with my friend about the latest episodes from this weeks Naruto. I think it covers basically everything we know about Madara to date.

First off, I'll just explain what I think Madara/Tobi is. I believe Tobi is a Zetsu in which Madara's Sharingan was implanted into.

Now heres how I believe what happened.

Madara fought the First Hokage in the Valley of the End and managed to steal some of his DNA.

From the DNA he created the first Zetsu's, each with their own varying personalities/types (black zetsu is a perfect example)

Madara somehow planned the events of his own death or was so severely weakened by the first hokage that he had no choice but to inhabit a different body. What would be better than a body made of the First Hokage's Cells?

The Zetsu's have the ability to mimic a persons body and chakra perfectly, but are incredibly weak. So in theory would be able to fully utelise the abilities of the Sharingan, but not to the extent of a full blooded uchiha.

In the event of his death, I believe Black Zetsu transplanted the Sharingan into a Zetsu (named Tobi) who was already copying Madara's body.

Now heres the catcher, I believe the Sharingan (or flesh) contains the memories of the original host body. Why? because of Kabuto and Orochimaru. How exactly did Kabuto learn Impure World Ressurection? I doubt Orochimaru would have directly taught Kabuto his (arguably) best technique? I believe while Kabuto was trying to fight off Orochimaru's genetic domination, he managed a glimpse of Orochimaru's techniques.

Also remember Sasori? the only living piece of him was his heart, yet it was able to manifest his memories.

The Sharingan's are special as noted by Sauske where he could "feel itachi's power flowing into him". Perhaps memory transfer is possible.

With the eye transferred into Tobi, Madara's memories can take over allowing Madara to be reborn in a weaker flesh body. Hence why Madara said at the summit "he is nothing but a shell of his former self". It also explains how Madara was able to regenerate an arm after losing it from Danzo's lankie; he was a Zetsu.

Now Tobi may have simply been Madara letting his Zetsu half take over. In the event of a transplant, the transplant recipient has dominance over the part. However, due to the submissiveness of Tobi, he relunctantly let Madara take over. Afterall he is a "good boy" and explains why Zetsu only calls Madara, Tobi

Now remember Madara is dead. So Kabuto impure world ressurecting his body and literally FORCING Madara to join forces makes sense. Remember Madara goes "HOW did you get that" assuming Madara hid his corpse in a secure location. It is perhaps possible Kabuto realises Madara's true plans (ressurecting his body with the power of the sage of six paths) and stole his corpse to prevent him from doing so.

I believe this is the most complete theory to date and if someone has already posted a theory similar to this, I would love to read it.
 
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Now remember Madara is dead. So Kabuto impure world ressurecting his body and literally FORCING Madara to join forces makes sense. Remember Madara goes "HOW did you get that" assuming Madara hid his corpse in a secure location. It is perhaps possible Kabuto realises Madara's true plans (ressurecting his body with the power of the sage of six paths) and stole his corpse to prevent him from doing so.

I believe this is the most complete theory to date and if someone has already posted a theory similar to this, I would love to read it.
but sasory and madara hav fellings so they have soul, if they have soul in the impure world (our world) the Impureworldressurection doesnt work
 

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I hate to poke a few holes in this theory but their is no evidence of Sharingan transplants cause memories to go with them, both Kakashi and Danzo had Sharingan transplanted to them and neither was ever shown or alluded to have any memories from either Obito or Shisui. Also you talk about "SHARINGAN" containing the memories of the original body and then mention Kabuto fighting off Orochimaru's domination he glimpsed his techniques, yet Orochimaru never possessed a Sharingan.
 

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I hate to poke a few holes in this theory but their is no evidence of Sharingan transplants cause memories to go with them, both Kakashi and Danzo had Sharingan transplanted to them and neither was ever shown or alluded to have any memories from either Obito or Shisui. Also you talk about "SHARINGAN" containing the memories of the original body and then mention Kabuto fighting off Orochimaru's domination he glimpsed his techniques, yet Orochimaru never possessed a Sharingan.
My aim was to talk about Flesh containing memories. Hence why I alluded to Sasori's heart. If in the odd case it doesn't, perhaps it is something to do with the Sharingan.

In case of the latter, perhaps this form of memory transfer only works with an Eternal Mangkyo Sharingan and will explain why it does not work with the Obito and Shisui. Perhaps they did not unlock enough of their own eyes powers to unlock this ability.

Remember this is very much theoretical. It is an attempt to completely understand the events of whats happened with Madara so far into one theory.

but sasory and madara hav fellings so they have soul, if they have soul in the impure world (our world) the Impureworldressurection doesnt work
Madara exists as a memory. His actual soul resides in the pure world as he is dead.

Think of it this way. Sauske killed Orochimaru, yet Orochimaru existed in Sauske as his mind was forcibly removed from his original body. He lived on despite being dead. That is what I believe Madara is doing.
 
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