[Theory] The Reason Why Orochimaru Did Not Use Reaper Death Unseal Before (Solved!)

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

My exact thinking. Still very nice though, I never noticed the Sharingan on the door, personally.

Thanks! glad you liked my theory, my derpy eyes just noticed them while looking at the panel

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[lsgteam]

If i am not mistaken, Sasuke was in Naka shrine before having his sharingan.... Otherwise Oro could Sasuke make open it for him as an exchange for learning jutsus

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Lol satisfied lol yeah that I keep poking holes and pointing out things that you conveniently fail to mention. On top of that you go back and reelaborate on things you.say to defend the falacy I found in your theory. Either way your original premise was that orochimaru needed the sharingan and the mask all those years back to unlock the Rds, and he did it immediately after losing his arms. Orochimaru didn't even know what the.rds was until after he lost his arms and ninjutsu then he studied the ruins of the uzumaki. Even in the manga scan you provided orochimaru and kabuto had enough of madaras dna as well as the first hokage to preform experments. They didn't need sauske to get into the shrine they could of used madara. The only reason they had sauske was because he was easily manipulated and niave.

Case and point I found falicy in your premise thus making your theory nothing but astheticly pleasing rubbish and speculation.

Aesthetically pleasing.

He studied about the RDS unseal immediately after losing his arms, three years is more than enough to find it since the Uzumaki ruins were just near the Land of Fire, you are mistaken in your assumption that Orochimaru simply didn't have time to use it, or he found it very late before his "death" at the hands of Sasuke, that is false, it's not time that he didn't have, it's the capability that he lacked because he needed the Sharingan and why did you put Madara in the discussion? lol xd, what's with Madara? are you even sure his Edo summoning was ready prior to Orochimaru's death at the hands of Sasuke? wouldn't it be more logical if it was Kabuto who assembled the Edo Tensei'ing of Madara after Orochimaru got killed? and simply worked upon his master's "research" you do know that Madara's Edo Body was special right? you seem to fall in a sirocco of farfetched conjectures. xd

And besides Oro already mentioned about "the other way" of getting his arms back right after losing to Tsunade, it is therefore logical to conclude that he knew/found the scroll at that point.

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[shadedcrow]

If i am not mistaken, Sasuke was in Naka shrine before having his sharingan.... Otherwise Oro could Sasuke make open it for him as an exchange for learning jutsus

Going to say close... I doubt you need the uchiha tablet to activate RDSK orochimaru just manipulated sauske into giving him what hes wanted access to the tablet his arms and ninjutsu. Right now team taka is a 3 man squad with jugo taking orders from orochimaru and they would.have to fight 3 kage and orochimaru. Orochimaru is.about to attempt( due to plot no. jutsu) to take the Ems and sauske, pretty sure it will fail tho.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Yeah. It had crossed my mind that he changed his mind about letting his body get taken over, because he felt he surpassed Oro, like he said himself.

But we know now that it isnt true and that he didnt feel he surpassed him at all (as we know from the convo with Suigetsu, right after the Kabuto fight. Sasuke knew he wouldnt have stand a chance vs Oro with his arms).

Indeed, he wouldn't stand a chance against Prime-Oro xd

 

[shadedcrow]

He studied about the RDS unseal immediately after losing his arms, three years is more than enough to find it since the Uzumaki ruins were just near the Land of Fire, you are mistaken in your assumption that Orochimaru simply didn't have time to use it, that is false, it's not time that he didn't have, it's the capability that he lacked because he needed the Sharingan and why did you put Madara in the discussion? lol xd, what's with Madara? are you even sure his Edo summoning was ready prior to Orochimaru's death at the hands of Sasuke? wouldn't it be more logical if it was Kabuto who assembled the Edo Tensei'ing of Madara? you seem to fall in a sirocco of farfetched conjectures. xd

And besides Oro already mentioned about "the other way" of getting his arms back right after losing to Tsunade, it is therefore logical to conclude that he knew/found the scroll at that point.

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This is you going back and reelaborating on the immediately immediate after orochimaru lost his arms again right? Three years is a long ass time to kick back and chill with limited use of your arms and ninjutsu. why did I pull madara into this orochimaru needed a sharingan madara has whats that dojutsu.... Oh yeah the sharingan....and seeing as how they had enough of his dna for orochimaru and kabuto to preform edo tensi and experements they could have just used him. But alas orochimaru wants sauske and his body.


And you sir derp are mistaken as I never said he didn't have the time. Ive only stated orochimaru didn't have the knowledge of Rds or rds until the 3 year time gap.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This is you going back and reelaborating on the immediately immediate after orochimaru lost his arms again right? Three years is a long ass time to kick back and chill with limited use of your arms and ninjutsu. why did I pull madara into this orochimaru needed a sharingan madara has whats that dojutsu.... Oh yeah the sharingan....and seeing as how they had enough of his dna for orochimaru and kabuto to preform edo tensi and experements they could have just used him. But alas orochimaru wants sauske and his body.

You're assuming Madara's edo form was already ready at that point, if you are forgetting his Edo body was special and it was Kabuto who finished that after Orochimaru "died" at Sasuke's hands, so there's no possibility that Madara could have been used to open the sealed door at the Naka Shrine at that time. And btw you're forgetting Orochimaru couldn't perform Edo Tensei to revive Madara even if he wanted to because his arms were sealed, and Kabuto only learned Edo Tensei after Orochimaru fell in Sasuke's hands

 

[shadedcrow]

You're assuming Madara's edo form was already ready at that point, if you are forgetting his Edo body was special and it was Kabuto who finished that after Orochimaru "died" at Sasuke's hands, so there's no possibility that Madara could have been used to open the sealed door at the Naka Shrine at that time.

Again your assuming im assuming, im not your manga scan of madara saying you know the secrets of my body, is proof that they orochimaru and kabuto had enough dna for a summon before kabuto summoned him to tobito. Which was the I'd say anytime after crush the leaf and the first return of orochimaru and the summoning of madara to tobito.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Again your assuming im assuming, im not your manga scan of madara saying you know the secrets of my body, is proof that they orochimaru and kabuto had enough dna for a summon before kabuto summoned him to tobito. Which was the I'd say anytime after crush the leaf and the first return of orochimaru and the summoning of madara to tobito.

After the failed invasion of the Leaf: Orochimaru's arms were already sealed so he couldn't perform Edo Tensei even if he wanted to.

Kabuto only learned of Orochimaru's techs after Orochimaru was defeated by Sasuke.

You're not making sense. xd

 

[Nakamazi Itchigo]

awesome as usual my friend and correct on all counts damn good.

 

[shadedcrow]

After the failed invasion of the Leaf: Orochimaru's arms were already sealed so he couldn't perform Edo Tensei even if he wanted to.

Kabuto only learned of Orochimaru's techs after Orochimaru was defeated by Sasuke.

You're not making sense. xd

Lol this is fun ... One we know kabuto was.with orochimaru while.he was collecting dna of various ninja before orochimaru ever used edo tensei and.two you don't know when kabuto learned the ritual for edo tensei. Everyone only knows when kabuto used it for the first time. Kabuto knew the reason why the 4th hokage initial summon failed. Which is.after the.first time the.fourth.was initially summoned. you sir are assuming far more than I. Unless you can prove that the manga scan of kabuto talking to madara through Mu and the expirments they conducted were not on madara or his body and kabuto was a false statement then its still logical to conclude they had enough viable dna to have a edo.madara in reserve after the failed crush the leaf plot. And madara wasn't/isn't a special edo. Him beings brought backup into battle was kabutos ace that proved tobito wasn't.madara uchiha.

 

[Chatte]

How comes you always guess what I have in mind? lol
Every theory I've read from you was a thought in the back of my mind.
Bravo, dear!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Lol this is fun ... One we know kabuto was.with orochimaru while.he was collecting dna of various ninja before orochimaru ever used edo tensei and.two you don't know when kabuto learned the ritual for edo tensei. Everyone only knows when kabuto used it for the first time. Kabuto knew the reason why the 4th hokage initial summon failed. Which is.after the.first time the.fourth.was initially summoned. you sir are assuming far more than I. Unless you can prove that the manga scan of kabuto talking to madara through Mu and the expirments they conducted were not on madara or his body and kabuto was a false statement then its still logical to conclude they had enough viable dna to have a edo.madara in reserve after the failed crush the leaf plot. And madara wasn't/isn't a special edo. Him beings brought backup into battle was kabutos ace that proved tobito wasn't.madara uchiha.

Well Kabuto certainly wasn't shown using Edo Tensei before Oro was killed, do you assume then that Oro trusts Kabuto enough to teach him Edo Tensei and to have one of the most powerful Edo Summon under his direct control? What would stop Kabuto from just using Edo Madara to kill Oro instead of helping him retrieve his arms? Oro is no fool, You're being very silly

Kabuto only learned his master's powers like Edo Tensei after Oro was out of the picture, it was that time that he experimented on his body and learned edo tensei and such. Kabuto was pretty much fodder before Oro's "death"

 

[KuroKaze]

Now that u have added more points it looks clearer....Nicely put.

 

[Chatte]

Really now, not to be mean or anything, but I thought it was quite clear for some why Orochimaru wanted Sasuke so much besides his normal plans. He did tell Tsunade in part 1 that there is still one more way to bring back his arms. Now it all makes sense. Or at least, it should.

 

[Odd One]

Nice job. I didn't think about that. Really cool, man.

 

[Vegeta]

Great theory Derp as usual, and probably most likely true. But you won't convince all the masses until Oro states he needed the tablet to use it, no matter how strong your evidence. Even with the dust on the scroll people just don't believe he had that scroll for a while. It had to be a while cause it's only a 3 year period between all these events. One thing for sure, Sasuke's about to get a power up when he reads the tablet with EMS

 

[Transcendence]

I agree. Is it possible for me to not agree with one of your theories?

 

[The ProphecY]

Oro and Kabuto didn't access and study the Tablet, they merely hypothesized its contents based on experiments:

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You don't experiment on tablets

If sharingan was really a requirement to open that door, then how did Sasuke manage to enter it before? We all know he never activated his sharingan after the Uchiha Clan massacre...

 

[Wes Sine]

Pure Awesomeness