[Theory] The Reason Why Orochimaru Did Not Use Reaper Death Unseal Before (Solved!)

[Crow.]

[rSqqQUOTE=Derp Obito;10584294]Thanks, don't underestimate my derptastic observational prowess. :scorps:[/QUOTE]

Hahaha nice. I don't know what time it is there, but here it's just past four in the morning. I like these threads outta you this early, helps to wake my ass up a little bit.

 

[AaaaNinja]

What's the connection with the tablet? That question's not answered. I don't get that part.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

What's the connection with the tablet? That question's not answered. I don't get that part.

It was the catalyst for the Reaper Death Unseal, this theory is merely in conjunction with this:

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[shadedcrow]

ah but you forget, he studied the ruins and documents immediately after losing his arms don't you think he found it earlier within the three year timespan before his "death" at Sasuke's hands hmm? it was laying cozily in the room in the secret room it was in.

Try harder :scorps:

This is also false he sought tusnade right after losing his arms then he said he will get his arms/ninjutsu back.another way.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This is also false he sought tusnade right after losing his arms then he said he will get his arms/ninjutsu back.another way.

Yes, but after that, he immediately had the Sound Four try and recruit Sasuke, why so? because he probably needed to possess his body with the Sharingan to open the sealed door of the Naka Shrine Tablet. Seeking Tsunade's aid first was just because it was initially more convenient, and tbh even if Tsunade healed his arms, the soul part of it will still be sealed, so what's the point of going to Tsunade in the first place? obviously you can see a retcon in Kishi's part.


Satisfied?

 

[Meowazziel]

Gave thanks, rep still needs to spread .

Do you think that Sasuke would have openen the shrine, if Oro told Sasuke, that they would have a better chance vs Itachi. Oro would have his arms back but that wouldnt be a problem because Sasuke wanted Oro to take his body for a while.


Or do you think Sasuke wouldnt have done that?

 

[Strata Uchiha]

I just wanna know Derp Obito...how the crap can you make such insightful theories at 4:55 A.M. in the morning?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Gave thanks, rep still needs to spread .

Do you think that Sasuke would have openen the shrine, if Oro told Sasuke, that they would have a better chance vs Itachi. Oro would have his arms back but that wouldnt be a problem because Sasuke wanted Oro to take his body for a while.


Or do you think Sasuke wouldnt have done that?

He wouldn't have done that, Sasuke knew Orochimaru's true intentions (taking total possession of his body) so why would he help Orochimaru regain his strength? even Suigetsu said so that Sasuke was only able to defeat Oro because his arms were sealed. If Orochimaru regained his arms before he fought with Itachi then Orochimaru would have definitely overpowered him and taken over his body, thus robbing himself of his desired vengeance.

 

[Meowazziel]

He wouldn't have done that, Sasuke knew Orochimaru's true intentions (taking total possession of his body) so why would he help Orochimaru regain his strength? even Suigetsu said so that Sasuke was only able to defeat Oro because his arms were sealed. If Orochimaru regained his arms before he fought with Itachi then Orochimaru would have definitely overpowered him and taken over his body, thus robbing himself of his desired vengeance.

But Sasuke said to Naruto and Sakura that he didnt care that Oro would take his body, cause he just wanted revenge on Itachi. I wondered if that was a lie. It seemed like one, but with Sasuke and his revenge, you never know for certain how far he wants to go for that. Kabuto would allow Oro to take his body no doubt back in the day at least. You say Sasuke lied and that he would never let Oro try and take his body? and that Oro knew he wouldnt do it willingly?

 

[AaaaNinja]

I realize that the theory in this thread relies heavily on the soundness of the theories in that other thread. But I looked at it and it seems that a whole step was skipped in trying to make the connection between the mask and the tablet. It seems like the conclusion was made first and then the explanations revolving around the conclusion. When it should be the other way around, how that conclusion came to be, and none of the theory explains how or why the tablet is the catalyst. It just says that it is. It's really easy to go to town on a conclusion once it's made, but it's really hard to build up to a conclusion. It don't even see a build up to that conclusion. that's what's missing.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

But Sasuke said to Naruto and Sakura that he didnt care that Oro would take his body, cause he just wanted revenge on Itachi. I wondered if that was a lie. It seemed like one, but with Sasuke and his revenge, you never know for certain how far he wants to go for that. Kabuto would allow Oro to take his body no doubt back in the day at least. You say Sasuke lied and that he would never let Oro try and take his body?

It was merely a lie on Sasuke's part, why else would Sasuke strike down Orochimaru if he actually intended to lend his body to the latter? because he knew Orochimaru desired total possession of his body, so Sasuke had to strike him down when he is bedridden.

 

[Crow.]

I just wanna know Derp Obito...how the crap can you make such insightful theories at 4:55 A.M. in the morning?

It's about the same time here, and I was just wondering the same. XD
He must be in a diferent country, or at least on a coast.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It's about the same time here, and I was just wondering the same. XD
He must be in a diferent country, or at least on a coast.

It's 2:10 am where I am xd (PST)

 

[Meowazziel]

It was merely a lie on Sasuke's part, why else would Sasuke strike down Orochimaru if he actually intended to lend his body to the latter? because he knew Orochimaru desired total possession of his body, so Sasuke had to strike him down when he is bedridden.

Yeah. It had crossed my mind that he changed his mind about letting his body get taken over, because he felt he surpassed Oro, like he said himself.

But we know now that it isnt true and that he didnt feel he surpassed him at all (as we know from the convo with Suigetsu, right after the Kabuto fight. Sasuke knew he wouldnt have stand a chance vs Oro with his arms).

 

[AaaaNinja]

It's 2:10 am where I am xd (PST)

You're as bad as I am (2am PST).

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

You're as bad as I am (2am PST).

Indeed I am

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[Fuxion]

Fantastic theory!
Of course however, Orochimaru still wants the sharigan for other reasons too. He placed the curse mark on Sasuke way back in the chunin exams before he lost his arms, did he not?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Fantastic theory!
Of course however, Orochimaru still wants the sharigan for other reasons too. He placed the curse mark on Sasuke way back in the chunin exams before he lost his arms, did he not?

Yes you are correct, and initially, he already wanted Sasuke because he wants the Sharingans ocular abilties, but he needed him even more after losing his arms because he needed the Sharingan to get them back.

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[shadedcrow]

Yes, but after that, he immediately had the Sound Four try and recruit Sasuke, why so? because he needed to possess his body with the Sharingan to open the sealed door of the Naka Shrine Tablet. Seeking Tsunade's aid first was just because it was initially more convenient, and tbh even if Tsunade healed his arms, the soul part of it will still be sealed, so what's the point of going to Tsunade in the first place? obviously you can see a retcon in Kishi's part.


Satisfied?

Lol satisfied lol yeah that I keep poking holes and pointing out things that you conveniently fail to mention. On top of that you go back and reelaborate on things you.say to defend the falacy I found in your theory. Either way your original premise was that orochimaru needed the sharingan and the mask all those years back to unlock the Rds, and he did it immediately after losing his arms. Orochimaru didn't even know what the.rds was until after he lost his arms and ninjutsu then he studied the ruins of the uzumaki. Even in the manga scan you provided orochimaru and kabuto had enough of madaras dna as well as the first hokage to preform experments. They didn't need sauske to get into the shrine they could of used madara. The only reason they had sauske was because he was easily manipulated and niave.

Case and point I found falicy in your premise thus making your theory nothing but astheticly pleasing rubbish and speculation.

 

[The Western Wheel]

This isn't a theory. This is fact. Its basically supporting evidence for your other link. Good job nonetheless.

My exact thinking. Still very nice though, I never noticed the Sharingan on the door, personally.