[Theory] The Reason Why Madara Survived The Battle With Hashirama (Solved)

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Doubt it. Genjutsu Sharingan time is limited and usually when someone is caught under a Sharingan genjutsu, he notices it whether it's at the exact moment the genjutsu is cast or later, but we all know that Hashirama lived long after Madara's death. He could not have been fooled forever. Also to use the moon to project genjutsu, Madara needs to summon it first like he said to Obito
 

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While I believe you are correct, it would be a huge anti-climax. Of course, I wouldn't want there to be an entity walking around resurrecting people like that, since that could possibly lengthen the series even more.

I didn't even notice Madara activating his EMS after he jumped off of the Nine-Tails, I only saw Hashirama looking up, so good job on spotting that (I guess? Maybe I'm just being blind).

Still, why would Hashirama look upwards if he was caught in a genjutsu? I refuse to believe they fought to the death and Madara was left unscathed on top of that cliff and didn't jump down to finish Hashirama while he was weak.
 

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Doubt it. Genjutsu Sharingan time is limited and usually when someone is caught under a Sharingan genjutsu, he notices it whether it's at the exact moment the genjutsu is cast or later, but we all know that Hashirama lived long after Madara's death. He could not have been fooled forever. Also to use the moon to project genjutsu, Madara needs to summon it first like he said to Obito
Izanagi then you think?
 

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His EMS was disabled due to the lack of chakra,the wound inflicted by Hashi it's real.Read the *********** version,it clears things up.
 

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Izanagi then you think?
Even more doubtful because:
- Reality directly turns into illusion and create another image when the Izanagi illusion gets stabbed or something, but we clearly saw Madara's body laying on the ground even after it got stabbed
- We know Madara gave his eyes to Nagato, so he couldn't have used it and lost it in that fight
- Obito said you need Senju DNA along with Uchiha's DNA to use Izanagi
 

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i have a question and it may be a dumb one but once you deactivate your sharingan does that not deactivate your genjutsu
 

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I never suggested the wound wasn't real, what I said is Madara put a vodoo on Hashi that's why he thought he killed him.
Then why was Madara so surprised?
Here's what I think...He tried to put Hashirama in a genjutsu,Hashirama noticed it and took advantage of the situation.That's why Madara was so surpised,he tought Hashirama never noticed the genjutsu
 
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Even more doubtful because:
- Reality directly turns into illusion and create another image when the Izanagi illusion gets stabbed or something, but we clearly saw Madara's body laying on the ground even after it got stabbed
- We know Madara gave his eyes to Nagato, so he couldn't have used it and lost it in that fight
- Obito said you need Senju DNA along with Uchiha's DNA to use Izanagi

Actually the third statement it's fals,Itachi clearly said that Izanami was created for those who break the rules and use Izanagi too much(Uchiha).I think with Senju DNA the tech gets more powerful.
 

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I have another theory. Maybe Madara had a disciple who used izanagi to save him. That would also explain why he had one eye in his old age. He took said disciple's other eye. (I know it seems too far fetched)
I have a better theory about it: :cool:
 

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If what you're saying is true, why the hell does Madara need the Juubi. If he can cast a genjutsu on the moon, there's no real reason for the Juubi.
 
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I like how every time sir derp makes a theory/thread everyone here is like "WOW man you blow my ****ing mind dude!" but when someone else has similar thoughts and makes a thread they are hating on it... Sir Derp... are you the ramen guy?!
 
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