[Theory] [Theory] Sasuke vs The Bijuu

[Nous]

Excellent! But this is the quality of work expected from someone as high a tier as you..
I like this analysis and the conclusions made. It all fits together and Minato noted Sasuke is "exceptional" so it wouldn't make sense if Sasuke does something as stupid as kill Naruto himself. He wants the Jūbi and the Bijū gone and some/most of his information was born from the Uchiha Clan Tablet and the Talk with the Hokage. However, I do still think Sasuke is a bit off-focus and isn't exactly sure what he exactly wants.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Excellent! But this is the quality of work expected from someone as high a tier as you..
I like this analysis and the conclusions made. It all fits together and Minato noted Sasuke is "exceptional" so it wouldn't make sense if Sasuke does something as stupid as kill Naruto himself. He wants the Jūbi and the Bijū gone and some/most of his information was born from the Uchiha Clan Tablet and the Talk with the Hokage. However, I do still think Sasuke is a bit off-focus and isn't exactly sure what he exactly wants.

Lol its all the individual and not the rank !

And I agree. He's deffinatly confused between the loss of his brother and all the stuff with the Hokage he's deffinatly still not all there mentally. Nicely added with the Minato compliment. It once again says that the idea "Protect Konoha...but kill its Hero."

Sasuke thinks erasing the past will somehow bring back the Uchiha Clan? Well, thats easy said than done. If it was that easy don't you think Madara would have done so that His brother would have ben back to Him instead of creating the Moon eye Plan.

I think this part may actually be part of his revenge for the death of his clan as opposed to the restoration of his clan.....my point with Madara was that his true intentions would parallel with what Sasuke may be planning.


Sasuke: Change the Shinobi world by destroying the Bijuu

Madara: Change the Shinobi world by destroying the world.

 

[Sot6p]

But that brings back the question...
Who will be on Naruto's side?
Naruto will obviously try and save the Bijuus.
But what about the rest of the NV? I mean, he might be considered "The Saviour" and all of that, but how will people react when he tries to protect the very existence that has caused so much trouble?

Sasuke: Change the Shinobi world by destroying the Bijuu

Madara: Change the Shinobi world by destroying the world.

Correction: Madara: Save the world by destroying the shinobi world.
Honestly, sometimes I do agree with them.
Power is something that humans shouldn't get their hands on.

 

[Voidstep]

strong possibility those are his real intentions, nice theory

 

[Byron123]

Good job!

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

strong possibility those are his real intentions, nice theory

Thanks a lot! Just seemed like the most logical thing based on his recent actions as well as the recent compliment from Minato indicating he isn't entirely operating on R-R-R-Rage Mode.

But that brings back the question...
Who will be on Naruto's side?
Naruto will obviously try and save the Bijuus.
But what about the rest of the NV? I mean, he might be considered "The Saviour" and all of that, but how will people react when he tries to protect the very existence that has caused so much trouble?



Correction: Madara: Save the world by destroying the shinobi world.
Honestly, sometimes I do agree with them.
Power is something that humans shouldn't get their hands on.

The way I'm seeing it...if Naruto befriends the Bijuu...mankind as a whole will accept them because they view Naruto as a savior. Additionally, the hatred developed by the Bijuu will end and they will be more proactive in helping humanity instilling more peace than there was in the past.

It comes down to whether the people of the Narutoverse will be willing to forgive the sins of the past.

And lol...that's basically what I meant. He'd basically be destroying the Shinobi World (which would thus be the world) creating a new version of it! One where no one has the power to oppose him.

 

[Cooh]

Nice thread!

 

[Isabel]

Completely agreed!! I see it this way too!
Even though I still don't understand how the Uchiha Massacre is connected to the bijuus..... as far as we know Madara was the one using Kurama against the leaf ....

 

[Honord Sage]

It hit me at work if Sasuke had erase Naruto's existence, then who would have saved Sasuke from Haku and Zabuza on their first mission? Had Naruto not gone tail beast back then Haku would had finish Sasuke,Then He would have help Zabuza kill Kakashi,Sakura and the old man and no bridge would have ben built. Then no team 7 for the exams. Orochimaru would have destroyed the village with Gaara's help sines their was no Naruto. Sasuke being dead would have never face Itachi or Danzo. Time dilemma.

 

[Donald J Trump]

:|Way to go captain obvious... lol jk, hmm I don't know anything anymore,_@: too many theorys and Sasuke's emotion is all weird, first happy than angry than sad WTF.:nuts:

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Completely agreed!! I see it this way too!
Even though I still don't understand how the Uchiha Massacre is connected to the bijuus..... as far as we know Madara was the one using Kurama against the leaf ....

This causes a long line of hatred between the two and climaxed with the Uchiha planning a coup...and getting Itachi'd. So I guess in that sense they are what remains of the Sage's death and the start of a feud that killed the Uchiha.

Also, I'd say it has more to do with information regarding the Sage than we've been told...as it is something written on the tablet.

I think this is more about Sasuke acting on some new information than entirely on his clan; however, Sasuke may have drawn the conclusion I thought of above and may be thinking of that as well.

The shinobi system today is an underlying factor that also contributed to the Uchiha fall...since the Bijuu scramble is a large part of that too....just another reason.

It hit me at work if Sasuke had erase Naruto's existence, then who would have saved Sasuke from Haku and Zabuza on their first mission? Had Naruto not gone tail beast back then Haku would had finish Sasuke,Then He would have help Zabuza kill Kakashi,Sakura and the old man and no bridge would have ben built. Then no team 7 for the exams. Orochimaru would have destroyed the village with Gaara's help sines their was no Naruto. Sasuke being dead would have never face Itachi or Danzo. Time dilemma.

lol indeed...I think his decision to erase has more to do with the Juubi and the Sage than actually Naruto XD! And probably Zabuza as opposed to Haku would have killed Sasuke since Haku was gentle...and didn't kill him in the firey place I think that it would go back to the Sage and the Juubi...he likely dies shortly after the Juubi is sealed...and the Younger Son is then chosen.

 

[saw2097]

Good job, its a very interesting idea that Sasuke's desire to destroy the Bijuu stems form the Uchiha tablet.

 

[psukkar]

Yes sasuke seems to think the juubi us the cause of this but this wrong in my option.

The shinobi used the tailed beast against their will and made them to things that wasn't part of what the so6p had planned for them. The fox mentioned all this when he talks about hasihrama and madara.

It's abit like the saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people".

Sasuke going for easy way out trying to find something else to blame other than the hard truth that the shinobi world as whole is at blame.

At least he finest think konoha were the ones that made the uvhiha clan retarded anymore.

Sasuke vs naruto will happen now because of this, conflict of ideals is the best place for a fight to get started.

 

[elsepa]

Very good theory . But i also think it is just not because he is the jinchuriki but he also made friends with Kurama , it's even a stronger bond Bijuu friend>Jinchuriki =D

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Very good theory . But i also think it is just not because he is the jinchuriki but he also made friends with Kurama , it's even a stronger bond Bijuu friend>Jinchuriki =D

That's easily also true....Naruto bonded to Kurama makes his goal harder...so naturally he'll feel animosity against Naruto. Even more so because Naruto has befriended something Sasuke now blames.

Yes sasuke seems to think the juubi us the cause of this but this wrong in my option.

The shinobi used the tailed beast against their will and made them to things that wasn't part of what the so6p had planned for them. The fox mentioned all this when he talks about hasihrama and madara.

It's abit like the saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people".

Sasuke going for easy way out trying to find something else to blame other than the hard truth that the shinobi world as whole is at blame.

At least he finest think konoha were the ones that made the uvhiha clan retarded anymore.

Sasuke vs naruto will happen now because of this, conflict of ideals is the best place for a fight to get started.

I completely agree. I am thinking that an emotionally unstable Sasuke has read about the Bijuu/Juubi creation and existence, and has decided because they exist...everything with his clan happened....

With your gun theory....Guns don't kill people....people do.

Sasuke's Mind: People may kill people, but they did it with a gun. Therefore, if I get rid of the gun....and anyone who happens to be able to use guns...this will never happen again.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Sorry in advance if the spacing and images are all messed up....the Base combined with my computer is completely screwy at the moment.

After today's chapter....Sasuke pretty much looks like he's gone insane....Protect Konoha, but kill the Hero of Konoha.

HOWEVER, based on the previous chapters my guess is that there is a little more than the Naruto rivaly.

The Uchiha Tablet

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To start, Sasuke obviously read whatever Madara has read up to the level of EMS on the Uchiha Stone Tablet. I am assuming that something he read here, combined with what Hashirama explained during his flashback, changed his mind about crushing Konoha.

I am theorizing that the Tablet likely has some comments on the Bijuu, and Sasuke has decided that the fall of his clan may be the fault of the Bijuu/Juubi's existence even before Danzo, Itachi, and Obito.

Burn It Down

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This was the first image showing us that Sasuke truly did have an alternative plan...or at least something going on in his mind. And he specifically says, "Burn it down." Obviously he refers to the Juubi and his desire to see it burn into nothingness.....which, combined with his facial expression, shows extreme hatred towards the thing.

I'll Erase The Past

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With today's recent chapter, we see that Sasuke once again has what appear to be extreme flaws in logic (Protect Konoha...but apparently kill the Hero of Konoha).

However, approaching with a more analytical insight reveals a less "flawed logic" approach. Notice that in the picture....the sword slash SPECIFICALLY goes through Naruto. Instead of jus shattering the entirety of the Team 7 photo (including Sakura and Kakashi)...the images SPECIFICALLY slashes through Naruto.

And what does Naruto have in common with the Juubi? Obviously the answer would be Kurama, but how can we further prove this....with Sasuke's words.

Sasuke says, "Not you...I will erase the past!" The only thing Naruto really has that could link both Juubi Possessed Obito and Naruto with past is the fact that Naruto is Kurama's Jinjuriki...meaning that Sasuke isn't exactly targeting Naruto because he's Naruto, but by coincidence he's Kurama's Jinjuriki.

Conclusion​

Sasuke's current endeavor is likely to eliminate the Juubi based on information he read on the Tablet. He had a rather sincere like appearance when he said he'd spare Konoha, and that leads me to believe he was not lying. Further proof of this seems to be that little "Heh!" smile he gave when Sakura went all Falcon Punch against the ground as well as the fact the Team 7 Photo doesn't slice Sakura or Kakashi.

From his intense stare and quote of wanting to burn the Juubi away....as well as specifically targeting Naruto mentioning he wishes to erase the past leads me to believe Sasuke is targeting Kurama more than specifically Naruto. This will also possibly mean that Sasuke will strike out against Killer Bee as well.

My final thought would be that we also seemingly don't know what Madara is up to....we have been complaining about his "Lack of doing anything" with the whole Infinite Tsukiyomi; however, with Sasuke not even acknowledging he's there...this could possibly further lead us to believe both Sasuke is against the Juubi...and that Madara may have an alternate game plan.

I myself found this a little obvious so to those who wish to say, "Way to go captain obvious," I will say I prefer Colonel Obvious !

Anyways let me know what you think!

Congratulations, your conclusion is the same as my second thought about his behaviors.

 

[roncato]

I'm sorry is he just....I donno ignoring reality?? The Biju are here to stay....forever the only true constant. They can't be destroyed lol. If the sage couldn't destroy the juubi then fat chance he can.

He can't be so stupid as to think he can do that.....I doubt he even has a plan if judging by his attempt at "destroying" the juubi via Amaterasu arrow LOL. Total fail, I'm really beginning to wonder who the genius in team 7 was.....

I guess you are really stupid, since he read everything at Uchiha's legacy, I mean tablet, so he really knows more than everyone.

 

[Sidpat]

your theory is good but sasuke plan has a b ig flaw , that is bijuu cannot be killed permantly , they get reincarnated after few years , so that why they r sealed , one of the reasons minato sealed kurama in naruto.

 

[Meowazziel]

Sasuke isnt thinking clearly.
Bijou revive themselfs after a while if you kill the jinchuriki and if you kill them right?

Next to this, people dont need bijou to make war.
So even with the bijou gone, war can still exist.
Killing bijou, who are good natured now, would be making innocent victims.

Sasuke's plan=fail.

I wonder if we dont know part of his plan, the real plan.

 

[Hori]

If Sasuke is targeting Kurama then Sasuke is targeting Naruto meaning he will be doing what Akatsuki have been doing... hunting down the kyuubi jinchuuriki in order to obtain it