[Theory] Revealing: Mysterious man indentity and way to save Naruto and Sasuke etc.

[Everztar]

Of course this is possible. The meaning of Sennin mode markings disappearing after Orochimaru absorbed just HIS OWN Chakra could be either:

- Kabuto can not access Sennin mode anymore as he needed Orochimaru chakra - The most people believe into that

or

- Sennin transformation was canceled as Orochimaru taking back his own chakra from Kabuto DISTURBED BALANCE inside Kabuto body between three energies: Natural, Physcial and spiritual. In other words Kabuto would not MAINTAIN SENNIN MODE TRANSFORMATION as OROCHIMARU's CHAKRA WAS USED in balance of energies allowing to have Sage mode.
Currently there is nothing to prove Kabuto CAN NOT ENTER SM, the only difference would be Kabuto would be much weaker in SM as he would take MUCH LESS Nature energy to balance it resulting in weaker Sage mode then before.

See my point ?

I will also show you as visualize my point:

Before: Physcial energy(Kabuto's + Oro's)/Spiritual Energy(Kabuto's + Oro's)/Nature energy.

Let's say that He had 10 points of physcial energy and spirtual separately, so in complete he would have 30 points. If Oro's input in physcial energy was 6 and in Kabuto's was 6 then

Now: Physcial energy(Just Kabuto's)/Spiritual Energy(just Kabuto's)/Nature energy - He would have 4/4/4 in sum 12.

The problem would be if Kabuto has enough chakra to be not overhelmed by nature energy... but maybe he has Karin, Suigetsu and Juugo chakra still so who knows...

In the end it would be Juugo's chakra keyfactor needed for SM to work and Oro's chakra was just enhancing it.

i see your point thanks for the explination. now i understand your theory a lot better... good theory

 

[Ovan]

He does not have DSM anymore because Orochimaru took the DNA he needed to pull it off.

 

[KCMNaruto]

very well done i also believe this will save naruto,

Thanks you very much and thanks for your input

Very good, could not agree more. Kishi usually goes with the obvious but complicated outcomes like you said. Rep your way!

Exactly this is the only way of thinking to decipher the mystery he is putting in front of us

I take it you are simply exploring ALL options right? XD
Naruto's 5 I find impossible, 6. is nearly impossible, and the maggots will get to Sasuke before we have time for 1.

I agree with most of them though, and I as well am 100% sure its Kabuto

Yeah it may seems convinient and easy as you said I am exploring all options

Anyway thanks for for agreement and supporting me

I hope your 100% certainty is wrong.

jealous, aren't you ?

We don't really know if Karin recognized that person or not. She just said "This chakra..!" and that she has a bad feeling. It could very well mean she realized it's Kabuto.

And that silhoutte was just a view of that person's chakra. The "horns" are probably just little flamelike thingies to show that it is chakra, you can see them on the shoulders, arms and legs too. It's not the exact silhoutte of an actual person.

Very good point... well when it is up to Kishi you can expect something unexpectable lol

You stole my theory about Pseudo jubbi Mode Thnx for the credit

Sorry I didn't know that you even create such theory anyway I created this theory the moment when Obito became Ten tails host... well maybe earlier the moment when Naruto was shown with tailed beasts in the background as against Juubi.

When did you come with this idea ? If you predated me with your date then I give you credit else I don't feel to do that ;p

i see your point thanks for the explination. now i understand your theory a lot better... good theory

All pleasure from my side . It is not just nice but also friendly to show someone being wrong and correct him/her without use of insults/curse. I am glad I could show you another side to look at.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Wouldn't Karin be able to sense hers, Juugo's, and Suigetsu's chakra in Kabuto though?

 

[KCMNaruto]

He does not have DSM anymore because Orochimaru took the DNA he needed to pull it off.

My counterargument is here in the post I posted eariler so let me copy and paste it here.

Of course this is possible. The meaning of Sennin mode markings disappearing after Orochimaru absorbed just HIS OWN Chakra could be either:

- Kabuto can not access Sennin mode anymore as he needed Orochimaru chakra - The most people believe into that

or

- Sennin transformation was canceled as Orochimaru taking back his own chakra from Kabuto DISTURBED BALANCE inside Kabuto body between three energies: Natural, Physcial and spiritual. In other words Kabuto would not MAINTAIN SENNIN MODE TRANSFORMATION as OROCHIMARU's CHAKRA WAS USED in balance of energies allowing to have Sage mode.
Currently there is nothing to prove Kabuto CAN NOT ENTER SM, the only difference would be Kabuto would be much weaker in SM as he would take MUCH LESS Nature energy to balance it resulting in weaker Sage mode then before.

See my point ?

I will also show you as visualize my point:

Before: Physcial energy(Kabuto's + Oro's)/Spiritual Energy(Kabuto's + Oro's)/Nature energy.

Let's say that He had 10 points of physcial energy and spirtual separately, so in complete he would have 30 points. If Oro's input in physcial energy was 6 and in Kabuto's was 6 then

Now: Physcial energy(Just Kabuto's)/Spiritual Energy(just Kabuto's)/Nature energy - He would have 4/4/4 in sum 12.

The problem would be if Kabuto has enough chakra to be not overhelmed by nature energy... but maybe he has Karin, Suigetsu and Juugo chakra still so who knows...

In the end it would be Juugo's chakra keyfactor needed for SM to work and Oro's chakra was just enhancing it.

Feel free to disagree but first please give me reason why you disagree ,ok ?

Wouldn't Karin be able to sense hers, Juugo's, and Suigetsu's chakra in Kabuto though?

Well it is debatable but if he is in Sage mode then his chakra may have completly other feeling. It could also be mix of all chakra inside Kabuto: Karin's chakra, Suigetsu's chakra and Juugo's chakra.

Remember that Karin only met and has known Kabuto as just normal Kabuto without orochimaru's or any other DNA.

Either in Sennin mode chakra is hard to be recognized by someone by alone fact that currently Kabuto has more then just his chakra which is mix of his, Karin's, Suigetsu and Juugo's would be completly new to Karin so she could not have way to recognize them.

 

[Everztar]

You totally destroyed her weak logic :vision:

i simply asked: do you really believe that Kabuto along with only his own chakra... can use Sage Mode again? =p (friendly smiley even...)
when Orochimaru absorbed only HIS OWN CHAKRA the Sage Mode vanished. (wanted KCMNaruto to answer this because i was a littlebit sceptical)

however he provided a good answer which i believe was friendly and wise, he simply had me understand his point of view...
we're not trying to put hard feelings between us or anything?

"Hey Mom... how are you? you look sad since Father dropped that bowl of cereal" (which is a in-depth question)
Mom answers: i'm fine, don't worry... the cereal can easily be cleaned up, no need to be sad (did my mom destroy me with my weak logic?) it's basically the same... since it was just a question and not a matter of trying to Solo KCMNaruto's thread or anything? in that case i would've provided anger and things like "lol you're wrong, it's like this and like that let me show proof"
i simply asked him a question?

whatever, hope you have a nice day fella

 

[KCMNaruto]

i simply asked: do you really believe that Kabuto along with only his own chakra... can use Sage Mode again? =p (friendly smiley even...)
when Orochimaru absorbed only HIS OWN CHAKRA the Sage Mode vanished. (wanted KCMNaruto to answer this because i was a littlebit sceptical)

however he provided a good answer which i believe was friendly and wise, he simply had me understand his point of view...
we're not trying to put hard feelings between us or anything?

"Hey Mom... how are you? you look sad since Father dropped that bowl of cereal" (which is a in-depth question)
Mom answers: i'm fine, don't worry... the cereal can easily be cleaned up, no need to be sad (did my mom destroy me with my weak logic?) it's basically the same... since it was just a question and not a matter of trying to Solo KCMNaruto's thread or anything? in that case i would've provided anger and things like "lol you're wrong, it's like this and like that let me show proof"
i simply asked him a question?

whatever, hope you have a nice day fella

Lol don't worry so people are overreactive but I am not one of them

I took it easy and in friendly way as you said , Well it is not hard to be friends, don't you think ?

I am glad you got my point well. Yes it was NOT just to correct you but also help you understand something better without putting myself above you.

 

[Everztar]

Lol don't worry so people are overreactive but I am not one of them

I took it easy and in friendly way as you said , Well it is not hard to be friends, don't you think ?

I am glad you got my point well. Yes it was NOT just to correct you but also help you understand something better without putting myself above you.

i was already 100% sure that guy is kabuto... the only thing i was about 50% sure about is if he would still have Sage Mode!
i agreed with you to 99% but that remaining 1% was whether he could use Sage Mode or NOT? i never mistrusted your thread at any point! there was just a small flashback flashing through my mind saying "can Kabuto really use Sage Mode or NOT?" "let's ask KCMNaruto about it!"

 

[davidou]

1/The feet of the mystery man have a human skin , not a snake or dragon skin like dsm kabuto , so it isn't dsm kabuto
2/Kin and Gin beast chakra was sucked into Gedo Mazo

 

[KCMNaruto]

i was already 100% sure that guy is kabuto... the only thing i was about 50% sure about is if he would still have Sage Mode!
i agreed with you to 99% but that remaining 1% was whether he could use Sage Mode or NOT? i never mistrusted your thread at any point! there was just a small flashback flashing through my mind saying "can Kabuto really use Sage Mode or NOT?" "let's ask KCMNaruto about it!"

haha then you made the best choice in that situation ;P. Politely asking instead of messing or trying to debunk someone's statement because you feel so as some people like to do that to make other persons mad or irritated.

Well I like you and I would like you to know that I never keep any personal grudges around the Internet against anyone.

Ok I will end our debate for now as we are going too much offtopic which can be considered as spam, but you want to exchange more idea's or simply talk then message me or something.

1/The feet of the mystery man have a human skin , not a snake or dragon skin like dsm kabuto , so it isn't dsm kabuto
2/Kin and Gin beast chakra was sucked into Gedo Mazo

Idk about first.. as I am not foot specialist lol. However I don't see much difference between Kabuto's feet in DSM or in base:

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^^ It looks normally to me.

However I most likely agree with your second point but it doesn't disprove anything

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

What horns? And why would Kabuto even bother saving Sasuke? And how can he even save Sasuke? All your ways of saving Sasuke revolves other people, not one of them is Kabuto! I CALL BULLSHIT!

 

[KCMNaruto]

What horns? And why would Kabuto even bother saving Sasuke? And how can he even save Sasuke? All your ways of saving Sasuke revolves other people, not one of them is Kabuto! I CALL BULLSHIT!

Well because I doubt Kabuto would be alone enough to save Sasuke's life but along with Karin transfering her life force it would work. Keep in mind that Kabuto also has Uzumaki's chakra from Karin so he would sacrifice it.

There is also possibility that Kabuto will use Forbidden technique to sacrifice life while saving Sasuke's life.

@ bold part shows how ignorant or not focused reader of this manga you are. The most likely outcome would be Kabuto being thankfull to Itachi for helping him finding true himself due to Izanami loop and in return Kabuto would like to return favour, don't you think ?

Rest result in previous actions, but you are free to disagree and call it as you wish. However I would like to see your reasons behind your words, that all.

 

[davidou]

Idk about first.. as I am not foot specialist lol. However I don't see much difference between Kabuto's feet in DSM or in base:

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^^ It looks normally to me.

However I most likely agree with your second point but it doesn't disprove anything

I was trying to help you with the 2nd point , not to disprove anything.

And the skin on dsm Kabuto's feet is different from his normal skin , even on the draw you posted to prove the contrary...

 

[Pecnut]

Orochimaru only undid the sennin transformation. He didn't take it away

 

[Path]

Orochimaru took back his chakra ...

 

[KCMNaruto]

I was right guys !

check it:

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CHEER !