[Theory] Revealing: Mysterious man indentity and way to save Naruto and Sasuke etc.

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KCMNaruto

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Hello guys, I would to like to share my great research leading to revealing and understanding two big mysteries. Here I go:

Mysterious man indentity :
DSM or snake sage mode Kabuto - I am certain 100% of this.

Exactly because this is Kabuto but kishi uses all mind tricks to make us confused while making from obvious reveal great twist. That way to go Kishi :) it always work for these who not pay attention to details which give us hints or can not see bigger picture behind manga reveal and plot advance.

The trick Kishi used here to pull us away from obvious answer being Kabuto are two things:
  • Karin didnt recognize chakra of mysterious man and also she called this chakra terrible :
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  • the silthouete of this person was shown with something like horns growing from head :
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Kishi plays very smart to make us think it is not Kabuto but let take moment to wonder what people with horns and spikes we have known throughout entire manga .

- Rikudou sennin(deceased)
- Current Madara
- Obito used to have them as ten tails host
- Dragon/ Snake sage mode Kabuto - BINGO this is reply to our question

DSM/SSM kabuto not just cover silthouete form with horns point:
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It also fits Karin's description as ( karin never met kabuto in snake sage mode) also dsm/ ssm was revealed as the most evil sage mode:
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so it would be another hint and reference. Also now Kabuto's design in Dragon/Snake sage mode would change drastically as Kabuto has no longer Orochimaru DNA... so he would look completly differently in Sennin mode.

It completly fits plot advance as big reveal as It would shown Kabuto finally accepting himself and leaving izanami:
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There is way to escape Izanami's loop and it is by accepting true himself. Kabuto would get chance to reedem himself and return Itachi's favour by saving Sasuke's life.

Also funny that some people call him weak while he was appearing at 6/7th place in top 10 constantly also taking in consideration that rest characters besides Madara and bz obito are out of picture in the moment so he would be the most powerfull shinobi on good guys side + being the biggest asset as he sould be the only possesing sage mode used to fight obito as juubi jin.

Conclusion: Kabuto is the most logical and sensefull choice to advance plot while bringing not just new stuff but also bring more deepness to manga and his character. Kishi always build up tension and set strong hints using obvious answer but utilizing all psyhological/mind tricks to fool most of people and make the obvious answer great post twist.

Believe it or not but mystery man is noone other then dragon/ snake sage mode kabuto. Kishi make us eliminate kabuto out of possibilities as most people forgot or think kabuto has no longer dsm/ssm so we compare using base kabuto.

Here is another my friend's post where he explain this:

The mysterious person is just Kabuto and not some new person who hasnt been part of this war yet.
Kabuto is using sage mode. The most evil sage mode as said before in the manga.
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Karin has never seen Kabuto with sage mode modifications (like dna from multiple people).
Obviously his chakra signature will be different, so she cant recognize it (I dont even know if she
can sense sage chakra).
Karin is worried about Sasuke, so this can cloud her judgement and giving her this ''I dont have a
good feeling about this'' kind of worries. Kabuto is using an evil sage mode, so this can feed that
feeling as well.

Really all these new theories about the mysterious man being Shisui, Jiraiya, The Elder son, The Sage himself, another Swirly Zetsu (who suddenly has sage mode after being paralyzed by the curse seal -_-, not likely) etc. wont happen.
Why would they appear out of nowhere in the war? Shisui (who most likely has nog sage mode) his story is closed and so is Jiraiya's. Not much reason for them not to be wearing shoes and having legs that look worn out from fighting either.

Leaving Kabuto forever in Izanami doesnt make for a good story.
He must escape Izanami at some point and find himself. This is the right time.
Kabuto is arguably the best medic alive at the moment and posseses a lot of other useful jutsus.
Itachi gave Kabuto a new chance in life and he would make sure to leave help behind for his little brother.
Kabuto will be part of the help that Itachi left behind for Sasuke. Itachi made sure of this with Izanami.
Kabuto doesnt have shoes atm, so he matches the person who has bare feet in the picture.

Kabuto might be a bit different, now that he managed to go sage mode, without Oro's chakra.
There will be some other things to reveal that give Kabuto some new flavor, but it will be Kabuto and not some new person. He might look different though.

Kabuto has sage jutsus that work well vs people with eye powers and he has anti mokuton poison abilities.
He is even immune to genjutsu that affects the eyes. He has a lot of useful knowledge in addition to this.
It will be interesting to see Kabuto join the war on the side of the Shinobi Alliance.

Kishi is just making the readers exited by not allowing us to recognize this person as Kabuto right from the start.
He did something similar in the past, when a hand with Rasengan was appearing above Muu and Gaara and it turned out to just be Naruto.
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P.s. Yamato is in Swirly Zetsu =D.
Yamato's story isnt finished yet either and can be done perfectly by being the
insides of Swirly Zetsu.

Just think about Tobi's indentity, the most of people were thinking about crazy or almost impossible theories while declining/overlooking or missing hints given by author to big reveal of Tobi's indentity. However this case would be much more harder to guess and decipher.


Ways to save Naruto and Sasuke, Possible power ups as well :
Here are my guess for the last possible ways to save Naruto and Sasuke

Naruto:
1) Tailed beasts chakra within him - Naruto actually has seven of them:
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. Now if Gaara transfered remains of Shukaku's chakra + Killer bee transfered remains of Gyuuki chakra into Naruto... then at least he would get pseudo Juubi mode and we know that Juubi has massive and very rapid instant regeneration and overhaxxed healing powers as Obito from being almost dead came to be alive and well after becoming ten tails host. It could have something with Gedo Mazou containing massive life force so it would keep him alive. - POWER UP and WAY TO SAVE A LIFE at the same time

2) Gedo Mazou arm - if Kakashi bring Gedo Mazou's arm:
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ripped with his Kamui back and sealed into Naruto then at least it would give Naruto chance to be alive as Gedo Mazou is known for huge life force:
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- Just WAY TO SAVE A LIFE.

3) Chakra of nine tails in Rikudou tools - It may be still possible for Nine tails chakra stolen by Kinkaku and Ginkaku be present inside jar as Madara just spit them so it may be foreshadowing:
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- POWER UP and WAY TO SAVE A LIFE at the same time

4) Sage of six paths chakra's present in Naruto contained within tailed beasts chakra -
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Sage of six paths as divine being inside human flesh could possibly even reivive Naruto and gives him power up. Nothing is impossible for this guy remember it - POWER UP and WAY TO SAVE A LIFE at the same time.

5) Nature energy saving Naruto via Sage mode in magic way or new stage 2 of Sage mode/enhanced Sage mode would allow him to cheat death or something - POWER UP and WAY TO SAVE A LIFE at the same time.

6) Obito will steal other half of kurama from Black Zetsu somehow and escape then transfer it to Naruto redeeming himself in the end and give hope for the world.

Sasuke :
1) Gedo Mazou arm - if Kakashi bring Gedo Mazou's arm:
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ripped with his Kamui back and sealed into Sasuke then at least it would give Sasuke chance to be alive as Gedo Mazou is known for huge life force:
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- Just WAY TO SAVE A LIFE.

2) Nature energy saving Sasuke via Sage mode in magic way or new stage 2 of Sage mode/enhanced Sage mode would allow him to cheat death or something. OF course first he would get Sage mode from Kabuto/Orochimaru - POWER UP and WAY TO SAVE A LIFE at the same time.

3) Life force transfer - Karin sacrifices her own life to save Sasuke's life.

4) Unkown forbidden technique - Orochimaru or the mysterious person(Kabuto most likely) do something which save Sasuke from death

5) Juugo merging with Sasuke - Juugo merge with Sasuke cause his heart to replace/repair Sasuke's heart and he will be alive as fusion of two people with Juugo being most likely used as just power up and Sasuke in control.

COMMON FOR THEM WAY TO SAVE THEIR LIVES AND GET POWER UP
1) Forbidden Fruit -
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- The Forbidden fruit was stated to give Kagyua Princess Holy power... which could anything and everything. Talking much about foreshadowing:
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^^ The bottom right panel... Did you really think Kishi would spend one panel for God Tree for no reason ?
Imao Lol

2) Obito uses Black Zetsu life force and thanks to Kyuubi chakra he will use Rinne tensei reviving Naruto and Sasuke with killing himself and Black Zetsu in result.

In my opinion: Naruto and Sasuke will split forbidden fruit in two halves and each of them will eat half of it then together along with all shinobi help they will face Rikudou Madara.

Foreshadowing and hints behind tailed beasts being involved in saving Naruto's life and maybe giving him power needed to face Madara
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^^ Naruto made vow to save Tailed beasts no matter what and as we know his shinobi way he will never give up until he fulfills the promise/vow he made.

Proof:
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While Tailed beasts entrusted Naruto with their souls and a bit of their chakra:
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Tailed beasts also made vow/promise to HELP Naruto:
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So yet they have to fulfill their promise/vow they made to Naruto and what would be the better way then to save Naruto's life and maybe give him power up to face Madara. It is one of themes in this manga to fulfill promise/vow you made to someone so it would huge disappointment and disgrace to Kishi's manga if author screwed that part.

In my opinion: Naruto still has tailed beasts chakra along with trust given to him by Tailed beasts as gift. He just lack Shukaku and Gyuuki chakra to be complete and have Juubi's chakra(small but still). The Juubi chakra would either save Naruto life and give him power up or just save his life then upon contact with God Tree it would make Forbidden fruit grows and Naruto would eat it alone or share it with Sasuke spliting in half then both of them would face Madara along with help of everyone.

The last part for which I don't see need to create separate section would be Who is inside spiral/swirly Zetsu ?
I honestly believe it is Captain Yamato known as Tenzo also. He is the only one to posses Wood release besides Hashirama, Madara and Obito. Spiral/Swirly Zetsu is known to boost anyone who is enveloped by his exoskeleton, so Yamato would fit here. He was also the only one who boosted Entire Zetsu army.

Here is also hint from Orochimaru:
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and what was Orochimaru's reaction back then:
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SUMMARY :​
  • Mysterious man is Kabuto using Dragon/Snake Sage mode. His image could change a lot in SSM/DSM as he has no longer Orochimaru DNA in himself
  • There is a lot of ways to save Naruto's and Sasuke's life, also some of them would also be used as power up.
  • Tailed beasts will play main role in saving Naruto's life and most likely powering him up. Naruto still has a bit of chakra given by tailed beasts + their trust given to him as gift.
  • Person inside Swirly/Spiral Zetsu is noone more then Captain Yamato known also as Tenzo.
  • Kishi is known to use the obvious/simple/straight answers to explain mysteries but using complex and hard to understand ways to make these obvious answers turn into great plot twists. (Tobi-Obito, Mysterious man- Kabuto, Spiral/Swirly Zetsu - Yamato)

Thanks for reading guys ;)

Please share your thoughts ;)
 
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NO horns...that was just charka...look at the body you see more of those things....then explain why his hair isnt there....and orochi took his powers
 

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NO horns...that was just charka...look at the body you see more of those things....then explain why his hair isnt there....and orochi took his powers

Well if it was just chakra then it is simple nature energy surrounding him.

His hair are not anymore long as they were used to be:
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^^ Kabuto has short hair now... also remember that his look would change a lot in DSM/SSM since Orochimaru has took his DNA back from Kabuto.

Besides it is just the way Kishi always write mysteries to make them as complex and hard to decipher as possible then reveal as obvious answers guessed by most of people from get go or as first idea which came up to mind.
 

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those who say otherwise,are in pure denial...
good read,and it's obvious.
 

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those who say otherwise,are in pure denial...
good read,and it's obvious.

Exactly and thanks !

To be honest in Kabuto's example it is also possible to be another Zetsu as he fits in what Karin saw by sensing this person:

- Here is the thread so you can read it if you want. IT IS NOT MINE

Either way Mysterious person is Kabuto or new Zetsu hanging on Gedo Mazou... but I lean more towards Kabuto as he would bring more into manga then just shock effect.
 

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great thread bro :D rep! it makes perfect sense to be kabuto! the tie breaker is not only horns and dna modification BUT kishi called the mode'' MOST EVIL! it holds the same value as something terrible, dark, malice :I
 

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great thread bro :D rep! it makes perfect sense to be kabuto! the tie breaker is not only horns and dna modification BUT kishi called the mode'' MOST EVIL! it holds the same value as something terrible, dark, malice :I

Thanks a lot man ;)

What would be your take about other my sections as possible ways to save Naruto and Sasuke or Tailed beasts helping Naruto or Spiral Zetsu being Yamato ?

Nice thread , you put lot of afford on it

Thanks a lot pretty lady :win:
 
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Thanks a lot man ;)

What would be your take about other my sections as possible ways to save Naruto and Sasuke or Tailed beasts helping Naruto or Spiral Zetsu being Yamato ?



Thanks a lot pretty lady :win:

very well done :) i also believe this will save naruto,
 

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Very good, could not agree more. Kishi usually goes with the obvious but complicated outcomes like you said. Rep your way!
 

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and what is purpouse of this manga page ?

do you really believe that Kabuto along with only his own chakra... can use Sage Mode again? =p
when Orochimaru absorbed only HIS OWN CHAKRA the Sage Mode vanished.
 

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do you really believe that Kabuto along with only his own chakra... can use Sage Mode again? =p
when Orochimaru absorbed only HIS OWN CHAKRA the Sage Mode vanished.

Of course this is possible. The meaning of Sennin mode markings disappearing after Orochimaru absorbed just HIS OWN Chakra could be either:

- Kabuto can not access Sennin mode anymore as he needed Orochimaru chakra - The most people believe into that

or

- Sennin transformation was canceled as Orochimaru taking back his own chakra from Kabuto DISTURBED BALANCE inside Kabuto body between three energies: Natural, Physcial and spiritual. In other words Kabuto would not MAINTAIN SENNIN MODE TRANSFORMATION as OROCHIMARU's CHAKRA WAS USED in balance of energies allowing to have Sage mode.
Currently there is nothing to prove Kabuto CAN NOT ENTER SM, the only difference would be Kabuto would be much weaker in SM as he would take MUCH LESS Nature energy to balance it resulting in weaker Sage mode then before.

See my point ?

I will also show you as visualize my point:

Before: Physcial energy(Kabuto's + Oro's)/Spiritual Energy(Kabuto's + Oro's)/Nature energy.

Let's say that He had 10 points of physcial energy and spirtual separately, so in complete he would have 30 points. If Oro's input in physcial energy was 6 and in Kabuto's was 6 then

Now: Physcial energy(Just Kabuto's)/Spiritual Energy(just Kabuto's)/Nature energy - He would have 4/4/4 in sum 12.

The problem would be if Kabuto has enough chakra to be not overhelmed by nature energy... but maybe he has Karin, Suigetsu and Juugo chakra still so who knows...

In the end it would be Juugo's chakra keyfactor needed for SM to work and Oro's chakra was just enhancing it.
 
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Of course this is possible. The meaning of Sennin mode markings disappearing after Orochimaru absorbed just HIS OWN Chakra could be either:

- Kabuto can not access Sennin mode anymore as he needed Orochimaru chakra - The most people believe into that

or

- Sennin transformation was canceled as Orochimaru taking back his own chakra from Kabuto DISTURBED BALANCE inside Kabuto body between three energies: Natural, Physcial and spiritual. In other words Kabuto would not MAINTAIN SENNIN MODE TRANSFORMATION as OROCHIMARU's CHAKRA WAS USED in balance of energies allowing to have Sage mode.
Currently there is nothing to prove Kabuto CAN NOT ENTER SM, the only difference would be Kabuto would be much weaker in SM as he would take MUCH LESS Nature energy to balance it resulting in weaker Sage mode then before.

See my point ?

You totally destroyed her weak logic :vision:
 

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I take it you are simply exploring ALL options right? XD
Naruto's 5 I find impossible, 6. is nearly impossible, and the maggots will get to Sasuke before we have time for 1.

I agree with most of them though, and I as well am 100% sure its Kabuto
 
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I hope your 100% certainty is wrong.
 

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We don't really know if Karin recognized that person or not. She just said "This chakra..!" and that she has a bad feeling. It could very well mean she realized it's Kabuto.

And that silhoutte was just a view of that person's chakra. The "horns" are probably just little flamelike thingies to show that it is chakra, you can see them on the shoulders, arms and legs too. It's not the exact silhoutte of an actual person.
 

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You stole my theory about Pseudo jubbi Mode Thnx for the credit
 
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