[Predictions] theory regarding Tsunades future as Hokage

[zumorikato]

Okay

1.Tsunade said to her slug summon to make a chakra link so the slug could use tsunades chakra for healing purposes, stated here

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directly showing everyone the slugs using tsunades chakra, ergo when she uses that technique she has, it can be used for every ninja and villager.

As to the manga showing pain stating hes destroyed everything, i show you a manga showing orochimaru saying sasuke is his new body, when we now know in the future it clearly isnt.

Just because pain thinks hes killed everyone doesnt mean he has.

when Hinata turned up he was shocked, because he originally thought most people had indeed died or were badly injured




Also, Jiraiya?

I now see these posts as fandom bettering logic.

Consider for one moment pains invasion and how tsunade handled it.

Now consider for one moment pains invasion and put Jiraiya in her place.

1.We know jiraiya got owned by pain
2.We know in sage mode nobody else should get involved, pretty difficult when youre in the middle of a populated village that hasnt been massive shinra tenseid yet
3.Jiraiya has no medical jutsu, so when pain used his massive shinra tensei, shikamaru, hinata, choujis dad, everyone would be dead, because jiraiya doesnt have them slugs that healed the people weve seen so far who are alive because and only because of tsunades slugs and tsunades chakra
4.The hokage of konoha would be dead if it were jiraiya, the one right now isnt


Jiraiya is actually worse suited to this SITUATION, jiraiya is far better at 1 vs 1 fights, no one to protect and he can go all out.

Hi Twistedlink

I agree with you that for this situation the Jman might not have been the better in this situation. But unfortunately that is not the argument. Prevention is better than cure. Its better to have taken precautionary measures than to say, whoopy I have cured most of the people afterwards. I think you are right by stating that there would have been more losses to the village with Jman, than with Tsunade because of Tsunades healing abilities. but only if Pain were stopped inside the village, my thread is regarding the fact the Tsunade did not take the sufficient amount of action to prevent Pain from crossing the border, even though she new he was on his way for the 9 tails.

I have been through that manga many a times, but just because Tsunade says that the slugs must take from her chakra to heal the people doesnt mean she used the seal jistus that reduces her lifespan. Aswell I checked the manga later on, she still had the seal on her forehead, even though she provided the slugs with her chakra.

I showed you a link that states on the side, that Kisihi said that Konoha had countless sacrifices, not a link where Pain thinks he killed alot of people, Please show me a link where Hisihi said that Konoha have countless sacrifices or, even similar wording that Orichimaro have caused the same amount of damage?

But to get to the point of it all, like I said earlier in the post we are now speculating regarding the numbers, because there is no evidence to determine the exact amount of casualties of both battles. All we can do is compare certain detail that might resemble more destruction from the different battles.

I think you miss interpreted Pains shock, I think he was shocked to she the Byukugan more than he was of Hinata.

 

[Monkey Sage]

tsunade has to die shes getting to old

 

[Monkey Sage]

i think that pein will pull out 9 tailed fox and tsunade will give her life for naruto using that jutsu that grandma chiyo did

 

[-Damon-]

i think that pein will pull out 9 tailed fox and tsunade will give her life for naruto using that jutsu that grandma chiyo did

That could probably happen Pein killing tsunade if she gets in naruto's battle with him but i think her time as Hokage will end soon and i hope so she isnt the same level as Pein. XD she is the Hokage and all but she is not that well skilled. >

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

i think that pein will pull out 9 tailed fox and tsunade will give her life for naruto using that jutsu that grandma chiyo did

then what was the whole point of minato giving the kyuubi to naruto?? he did it with a specific reason in mind, probably so naruto could defeat madara because the way madara controls the kyuubi is through genjutsu, and like killerbee genjutsu doesnt work on a jinchurriki, so naruto is not going to lose the kyuubi, and in response to twisted link, im not saying jman would have done an amazing job, but he would have met the threat head on, and he wouldnt have just stood there in front of deva pain, he would have formulated a plan of attack with the anbu standing near him, and that would have kept pain from destroying the whole village, all tsunade did was stand there, and as stated above tsunade had already released her special healing jutsu by the time pain got to her, so how did her healing do anythin to help after the blast?? im not sayin tsunade isnt a good hokage, she's just employing a strategy that suits her style, sadly though it isnt effective for hokage, the hokage is supposed to be the strongest ninja in the village, not the best healer, and tsunade is going to die because she is the last of the 3 sannin, and if the manga has told us anything its that they are being killed off

 

[Hellix]

I personally believe that Tsunade has reached her limit (meaning she's gonna DIE). Like most of the people here have said--Tsunade used up her chakra and her lifespan has almost ran out. :S But I don't want her to die--THEN who would be the Hokage? DANZO?!

 

[twistedlink]

...the crystal did dissapear from her head.

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Now, in the 3 sannin fight she specifically states she overuses chakra to grow cells at amazing rates, but cells replication ability has only so many lifecycles, this is actualy true for real life too if youre interested, and it makes her older, it shorterns her lifespan, shes using her life energy as it were, and she specifically states it means she cannot die in battle.

1.It uses chakra
2.It means massive fatality damage to her is healed with this jutsu
3.Massive shinra tensei should have killed everyone
4.It didnt


Im sorry but its quite obvious she saved the konoha village population using this jutsu, its not even a theory, its actually stating this in the manga, and the proof is large.

If you cant grasp the logic behind this theres really no point you being at narutobase because people come up with far less realistic theories based on extremely bad circumstancial evidence.


Why would pain be scared of byakagun?

He has the rinnegan, and his shock was before he even knew who it was-when she was behind him and couldnt see what clan she was.

Personally considering pains abilities tsunade did much better than any of the 5 hokages could have done.

Its not all about raw power, pain has the ability to WIPE OUT A VILLAGE, it doesnt matter what rasengans the 4th can muster, what gods the 3rd can seal pain under, what water the 2nd could make, or how many trees the 1st could make.

The point is tsunade is the only one with support skills, she didnt actually fight pain but she saved a buttload of people, yeah people died, i never said they didnt, my main point was konoha would be extinct of ninja pretty much if it werent for tsunade, and no other hokage could have saved all the other ninja.

It doesnt matter how strong you are against pain, even if say the 4th did begin to own him, pains plan was to destroy konoha anyway, probably an order from tobi to piss sasuke off.

Pain did it regardless of naruto or capturing him, and he wouldve done it regardless of who was fighting him.

This giant shinra tensei was INEVITABLE, based on pains psychology and character, and the only one who could save a large % is tsunades healing ability, the other highly skilled ninjas would have made some very brave flashy moves, but at the end of the day they wouldnt be able to do shit about giant shinra tensei, simple as.

 

[zumorikato]

...the crystal did dissapear from her head.

Here

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Now, in the 3 sannin fight she specifically states she overuses chakra to grow cells at amazing rates, but cells replication ability has only so many lifecycles, this is actualy true for real life too if youre interested, and it makes her older, it shorterns her lifespan, shes using her life energy as it were, and she specifically states it means she cannot die in battle.

1.It uses chakra
2.It means massive fatality damage to her is healed with this jutsu
3.Massive shinra tensei should have killed everyone
4.It didnt


Im sorry but its quite obvious she saved the konoha village population using this jutsu, its not even a theory, its actually stating this in the manga, and the proof is large.

If you cant grasp the logic behind this theres really no point you being at narutobase because people come up with far less realistic theories based on extremely bad circumstancial evidence.


Why would pain be scared of byakagun?

He has the rinnegan, and his shock was before he even knew who it was-when she was behind him and couldnt see what clan she was.

Personally considering pains abilities tsunade did much better than any of the 5 hokages could have done.

Its not all about raw power, pain has the ability to WIPE OUT A VILLAGE, it doesnt matter what rasengans the 4th can muster, what gods the 3rd can seal pain under, what water the 2nd could make, or how many trees the 1st could make.

The point is tsunade is the only one with support skills, she didnt actually fight pain but she saved a buttload of people, yeah people died, i never said they didnt, my main point was konoha would be extinct of ninja pretty much if it werent for tsunade, and no other hokage could have saved all the other ninja.

It doesnt matter how strong you are against pain, even if say the 4th did begin to own him, pains plan was to destroy konoha anyway, probably an order from tobi to piss sasuke off.

Pain did it regardless of naruto or capturing him, and he wouldve done it regardless of who was fighting him.

This giant shinra tensei was INEVITABLE, based on pains psychology and character, and the only one who could save a large % is tsunades healing ability, the other highly skilled ninjas would have made some very brave flashy moves, but at the end of the day they wouldnt be able to do shit about giant shinra tensei, simple as.

Unfortunately, even with your logic or lack there of, you still didnt grasp the idea or the principle why this thread was create, all you are doing is trying to explain minor symptoms and not the actual the cause of the problems. There is no use in argueing with you.

When you eventually understand what have been explained, hopefully it wont be to late, but when you do, we can have another conversation.

Nobody argued with you regarding what the seal on her forehead are used for, nor how it works, yet you explain a whole paragraph there after.You even posted a link to where you say that Tsunade is using the seal. I then told you that later in the manga she was still with the seal even after she have done what you think she have. I did see that manga pic and as far I know, the way it was stated indicates that he thinks she must have released, indicating an assumption, or are you going to argue with me on what the definition of assumption is as well???? Dont your logic tell you that if she already looked much older than Jman during the fight with Oro, that if she used that seal to heal all the countless thousands, that she would be so old by now, that she would be considered as fertilizer, if she provided so much aid to the thousands of villagers that she assisted?

Dont you just see the "shock" in pains face when he see Hinita?

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If you didnt realized that I was being sarcastic when I talked about the Byukugan then I dont understand you logic after all?

I think Pain was fully aware that he didnt kill every body, because I think that he know's Konoha sends ninja's out on missions just like Yamato's team, and Guy's team that just arrived back. If you apply that logic to the above statement about Hinata arriving to Naruto's aid I dont see how you can think that Pain would be surprised to see reinforcements come for naruto's aid after the whole damn village tried to protect him in the first place?


NO, not at all, you didnt say there wont be deaths and sacrifces during each battle but you did however state that Oro's invasion probably caused more deaths than pain, know I would like to ask on what evidence did you base your statement and if you would kindly apply that same logic that you talked about earlier to compare it with this pic below.

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And tell me with a clear contions that you honestly belief what you said is true.

 

[twistedlink]

Nobody argued with you regarding what the seal on her forehead are used for, nor how it works, yet you explain a whole paragraph there after.

I have been through that manga many a times, but just because Tsunade says that the slugs must take from her chakra to heal the people doesnt mean she used the seal jistus that reduces her lifespan. Aswell I checked the manga later on, she still had the seal on her forehead, even though she provided the slugs with her chakra.

Its very silly to say something and then say you didnt when theres quotation proof ready at my fingertips, it doesnt add to your reputation in the debate.

Not to mention you state the seal on her forehead is still there after reading the manga "many a times" and then once again, i used a manga picture to prove you wrong....again

This is why i left narutobase in the first place, too many people that simply dont think enough and take everything at face value, if kishi writes a character saying someone is dead in volume 400 theyre DEAD, may i remind us all of zabuza, and the fact that what the series naruto says one day completely changes the next, which is where we use logic.

Yes that manga of pain states "the many sacrifices of pain" but that can be symbolic for everything hes been talking about or konoha ninja, who knows

Well no then i dont understand the point of this thread, please enlighten me.

I am of the understanding people think tsunade isnt going to be hokage anymore because she let the village down, when in fact she did better than any of the previous hokage could have done, no other hokage could have saved as many ninja as tsunade did.


Orochimarus invasion killed more personally because no medical ninja were to be seen during that invasion, and tsunade appears to have healed many people with her jutsu(which is why im explaining it)

I dont have a lack of logic, if two people dont understand each others its impossible to tell which one lacks logic and which one doesnt, or if they both lack or both dont lack.

For all you know im making sense and you dont understand, rather than the other way around.

Dont your logic tell you that if she already looked much older than Jman during the fight with Oro, that if she used that seal to heal all the countless thousands, that she would be so old by now, that she would be considered as fertilizer, if she provided so much aid to the thousands of villagers that she assisted?

Yes, ergo why we see tsunades ALMOST mummified looking hand and a "well done tsunade" when sakura reaches out to her.

Its not that thousands died and tsunade put life back into them, but many were most likely severely injured requiring chakra in vast quantities that were stored in her forehead.


Sarcasm is an audio tone of mocking, as these are words its very difficult to tell when someone is being sarcastic unless you know the person quite well and understand there opinions and mannerisms to know when theyre being sarcastic, as i dont know you and your other posts appear fairly "serious" i didnt gather the sarcasm no, then again its sarcasm is always popular in online debates when someone fucks up but doesnt want to admit it, i have noticed that trend..


All i want to point out is that i personally think people are wrong when they say tsunade did a rubbish job.

Tsunade is a legendary MEDICAL NINJA, it makes sense for her to be protected by ANBU while working as a mobile hospital for all the ninja, that is FAR MORE EFFICIENT than her squaring up to only 1 of pains bodies (while the other 5 cause absolute chaos) and get owned .

Just because she didnt die in a pit like the 3rd or die while sealing a fox doesnt mean she did a bad job or put konoha at "more risk"

I think tsunade did a brilliant job, and she was certainly correct in her judgements, she knew jiraiya was stronger than her, and smarter in battle, and she knew he lost to pain, so she simply worked as a mobile hospital while konoha ninja could tag team pain maybe, kakashi put up a good fight, and she did order naruto back, it was danzou that made naruto late.

Konoha would be in a much worse situation right now if tsunade squared up to pain.

Also preliminary borders and guards would have also resulted in more deaths, pain can take out vast quantities of shinobi at very long distances, if she stationed loads around the border they would simply be fodder-dead for being deads sakes, the red shirts in star trek, there to add to numbers for numbers sake, at least keeping them in the village meant reinforcement capability and tsunade knowing and therefore HEALING them rather than having all borders taken out and pain attacking meaning

1.More death
2.Less ninja because they just all died at the border
3.Easier for pain to gain control


Sorry but tsunade did a brilliant job, there was no other option for her given her resources, ninja and capabilities, she really did the best she could and she saved MANY ninja because of it where the other hokages would have squared up to pain and caused massive damage and dont have medical jutsu.

Tsunade SHOULDNT be kicked from hokage position.

Re: theory regarding Tsunades future as Hokage

Thats what this thread is about, and im sorry if ive somehow "missed the idea" of the thread, maybe i read everything wrong and its not about tsunade remaining as hokage and her tactics as to why she should/shouldnt stay as hokage.

 

[inoshikacho]

Tsunade did a fantastic job a Hokage, i think her slug Jutsu is like no other and must take up an enoumous amount of chakra to execute, and she has protected the villages, maybe not the village, but im sure she must have used this powerful jutsu in the great war plenty of times too

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

twisted, are u really going to compare shinra tensei to the power of the kyuubi???? one of the kyuubi's tails has the power to destroy a whole mountain in one fell swoop, and yet you say that the 1st and 4th, who successfully protected the village, although there was a loss of life the village wasnt turned into a crater, could not have defeated pain?!?!!? not only was the first one of the greatest shinobi that ever lived but the 4th is said to be the greatest shinobi the leaf has ever produced!!! and yet you say that tsunade is better suited for an attack by something of great destruction??? i dont understand your logic?? and about the forehead seal, i never said i didnt know how it works so dont treat me like an idiot. second, as you can see in the 3rd panel on the right in the middle row

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tsunade is releasing her chakra to the slugs
now if you look here when she is talking to pain

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she is no longer releasing any chakra and she still has her forehead seal, if we then look at the link you gave us, pain has already unleashed shinra tensei and tsunade is crawling out of the rubble unscathed because i believe that we could logically conclude that she released it to save herself from the blast, it was probably going to be her last ditch effort to fight pain, she didnt release it for the villagers because she wasnt releasing any chakra to the slugs anymore. also the anbu in the bottom right frame here clearly states the is barely anyone left in the village

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he says let any survivors know who are able to move (not only are there very few survivors but not all of them can even move hinting that not all of them could still even make it anymore) im not bashing on tsunades healing skills im just stating that when a blast of that magnitude occurs people r bound to either get crushed, impaled by something, or lose multiple limbs, and as seen in the flashback when she was trying to heal dan she cant heal against everything, and that dan flashback was when she was in her prime. so i think i am correct when i say that konoha has suffered a massive loss of life greater than both the kyuubi attacks, and oro's invasion.

 

[mathura1484]

i'll just put my thoughts as simple as i can ......tsuna was never really suited for the title of hokage strong and skilled as she is she really didn't take it seriously she would sleep on the job for one second how can you get properly ready for an attack by the akatsuki when you know barely anything abought them ...its like predicting when yellowstone park will explode you know its there and what could happen but not when and how it will happen ....third pain did catch konoha by surprise since he entered as one person .....and last but not least...that corrupted old bastered told his anbu not to help out the rest of konoha fight the akatsuki.....this reminds me of braveheart

 

[twistedlink]

twisted, are u really going to compare shinra tensei to the power of the kyuubi???? one of the kyuubi's tails has the power to destroy a whole mountain in one fell swoop, and yet you say that the 1st and 4th, who successfully protected the village, although there was a loss of life the village wasnt turned into a crater, could not have defeated pain?!?!!?

this is irrelevant.

The 4th sealed the kyuubi, he didnt fight the kyuubi, also if im correct many ninja died on that night, i.e. the first basis in naruto, his teacher iruka and his parents, in fact isnt that why everyone hates naruto, because he has the 9tails who killed countless shinobi who the 4th DIDNT SAVE?

it matters little if the 4th took out bodies of pain, nagatos hiding, and pain can do large damage in seconds, if god realm noticed he was going to lose, he would giant shinra tensei the place and scarper, we know this because thats exactly whats happened, only instead of the 4th its tsunade and naruto 6tails.

The point is no other hokage could have done anything against the INEVITABLE fate of giant shinra tensei OTHER THAN tsunade-who is the only hokage who saved the ninja through medical jutsu through her slugs.

Pain being defeated means little if 99% of the people are dead.

Tsunade is better suited as a support ninja, hell in naruto its said countless times medical ninja are not to be in the battle, thats why tsunade is a sannin, she fights and heals.

Medical ninja are support, they heal when nessecary, tsunade did her job, valiantly, she did not run away from pain when he went up to her, just because she didnt walk right up to him and fight him head on does not mean she didnt do anything.

It would be stupid for the best medical ninja ever to purposefully put herself in danger of someone who killed jiraiya-stronger than her.

she knew her place, and her place was perfect, and she did a great job.

 

[wafanevergiveupdattebayo]

, I think naruto will save the village from akatsuki and become a hokage. I mean his father the 4th became one at the young age. danzou might help naruto become a hokage than giving up the throne to sasuke.... Its vague.

 

[zumorikato]

Well no then i dont understand the point of this thread, please enlighten me.

I am of the understanding people think tsunade isnt going to be hokage anymore because she let the village down, when in fact she did better than any of the previous hokage could have done, no other hokage could have saved as many ninja as tsunade did.


Orochimarus invasion killed more personally because no medical ninja were to be seen during that invasion, and tsunade appears to have healed many people with her jutsu(which is why im explaining it)

I dont have a lack of logic, if two people dont understand each others its impossible to tell which one lacks logic and which one doesnt, or if they both lack or both dont lack.

For all you know im making sense and you dont understand, rather than the other way around.



Yes, ergo why we see tsunades ALMOST mummified looking hand and a "well done tsunade" when sakura reaches out to her.

Its not that thousands died and tsunade put life back into them, but many were most likely severely injured requiring chakra in vast quantities that were stored in her forehead.


Sarcasm is an audio tone of mocking, as these are words its very difficult to tell when someone is being sarcastic unless you know the person quite well and understand there opinions and mannerisms to know when theyre being sarcastic, as i dont know you and your other posts appear fairly "serious" i didnt gather the sarcasm no, then again its sarcasm is always popular in online debates when someone fucks up but doesnt want to admit it, i have noticed that trend..


All i want to point out is that i personally think people are wrong when they say tsunade did a rubbish job.

Tsunade is a legendary MEDICAL NINJA, it makes sense for her to be protected by ANBU while working as a mobile hospital for all the ninja, that is FAR MORE EFFICIENT than her squaring up to only 1 of pains bodies (while the other 5 cause absolute chaos) and get owned .

Just because she didnt die in a pit like the 3rd or die while sealing a fox doesnt mean she did a bad job or put konoha at "more risk"

I think tsunade did a brilliant job, and she was certainly correct in her judgements, she knew jiraiya was stronger than her, and smarter in battle, and she knew he lost to pain, so she simply worked as a mobile hospital while konoha ninja could tag team pain maybe, kakashi put up a good fight, and she did order naruto back, it was danzou that made naruto late.

Konoha would be in a much worse situation right now if tsunade squared up to pain.

Also preliminary borders and guards would have also resulted in more deaths, pain can take out vast quantities of shinobi at very long distances, if she stationed loads around the border they would simply be fodder-dead for being deads sakes, the red shirts in star trek, there to add to numbers for numbers sake, at least keeping them in the village meant reinforcement capability and tsunade knowing and therefore HEALING them rather than having all borders taken out and pain attacking meaning

1.More death
2.Less ninja because they just all died at the border
3.Easier for pain to gain control


Sorry but tsunade did a brilliant job, there was no other option for her given her resources, ninja and capabilities, she really did the best she could and she saved MANY ninja because of it where the other hokages would have squared up to pain and caused massive damage and dont have medical jutsu.

Tsunade SHOULDNT be kicked from hokage position.



Thats what this thread is about, and im sorry if ive somehow "missed the idea" of the thread, maybe i read everything wrong and its not about tsunade remaining as hokage and her tactics as to why she should/shouldnt stay as hokage.

this is irrelevant.

The 4th sealed the kyuubi, he didnt fight the kyuubi, also if im correct many ninja died on that night, i.e. the first basis in naruto, his teacher iruka and his parents, in fact isnt that why everyone hates naruto, because he has the 9tails who killed countless shinobi who the 4th DIDNT SAVE?

it matters little if the 4th took out bodies of pain, nagatos hiding, and pain can do large damage in seconds, if god realm noticed he was going to lose, he would giant shinra tensei the place and scarper, we know this because thats exactly whats happened, only instead of the 4th its tsunade and naruto 6tails.

The point is no other hokage could have done anything against the INEVITABLE fate of giant shinra tensei OTHER THAN tsunade-who is the only hokage who saved the ninja through medical jutsu through her slugs.

Pain being defeated means little if 99% of the people are dead.

Tsunade is better suited as a support ninja, hell in naruto its said countless times medical ninja are not to be in the battle, thats why tsunade is a sannin, she fights and heals.

Medical ninja are support, they heal when nessecary, tsunade did her job, valiantly, she did not run away from pain when he went up to her, just because she didnt walk right up to him and fight him head on does not mean she didnt do anything.

It would be stupid for the best medical ninja ever to purposefully put herself in danger of someone who killed jiraiya-stronger than her.

she knew her place, and her place was perfect, and she did a great job.

I dont want to be rude by saying this then to you Twisted, but every thing that you stated above is irrelevant. Ready my post below.


Now I can see you really didnt catch the thread. Maybe part of it, but not the exact situation that Im trying to explain.

I will then apologize for taken the "logic" part into this equation, but I felt that you are the one trying to underestimate my sence of logic by what you said in the previous post. Sincing that I see other people questioning your logic, makes me wonder whoms logic makes more sence? By talking about random facts, and that you can do very well, as well as quoting alot from the manga, doesnt make that facts that you are stating any more relevant to the topic.

The title is the name of this thread, but what the thread is about, you will find in my first post of this thread.

Since you dont understand the idea of the thread I cant explain it otherwise, but what I can explain to what your currently doing is to compare the current hokages with the previous hokages, aswell as the other sannin, and by comparing there weakness and strengs against Pains abilities. Your answer there is that Tsunade would have been the best bet for the job. Also, your theories regarding the other hokages is a lot of, what ifs. What if or if the 4th did this and so on. Where you dont have the actual facts on how the battle would have turned out. So all you are doing is assuming that these things would have taken place without any giving proof that they would have actually happened.

But main problem is that, Im not trying to compare the Hokages. Im trying to explain the reasons that Danzou or the other elders might feed, for an attempt to get rid of her. The other people arent going to ask how many people have been saved, they are going to ask how many people have died under her controll, not how many people could have died under another hokage?

Tsunade job is a hokage, she have hokage responsabilities, not a medical ninja, even though she might be the best medical ninja, she is not "employed" as a medical ninja.

A hokages responsibility,and correct me if im wrong, is to protect the people, aswell as the village. And not healing them. Healing them, is a healing ninja's responsibility, not hers! She needs to take responsibility for her actions.

To say it like this, Tsunade as a

Medical ninja : Briliant.

Hokage : Failed.

Her task was to prevent the village from being destroyed and not to wait until it was destroyed, and then tried to heal everyone after the accident.

That is the criteria that she will be judged upon by the elders. That is why I would say, that Danzou might use that type of political action to over take Tsunade as hokage, instead of killing everyone that might disagree.

Thats why I said, all the other points about what jitsus she used, when she used them, how she used them is irrelevant to the topic. That is like I said, talking about symptoms instead of treating the problems.


Remember certain people will always see the cup half finished instead of half full. And the people like Danzou are not going to argue by saying the cup is half full.