[Theory] Reason why Sasuke's performance became worse and worse.

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Pretty good points. People have forgotten that Naruto has managed a hit as Kaguya is running low on Chakra as well.

Thanks a lot ;). Yeah I believe Sasuke was at offence when kaguya was more powerfull, but idk.

What do you think about these three explanations:

My three explanations:

1) Sasuke used too much chakra against Madara while he was doing most of the job
OR
2) Sasuke got time to shine against Madara who is smart with great power, while Naruto got time to shine against Kaguya who just depends on her greater overhelming power and haxx
3) Kishi wanted to make them equal, while talking about Naruto with no Bijuu just like Ashura was to Indra, so he retconn it and then Naruto having bijuu friends in himself making him supperior, showing how friendship are good.

Could one of them be reasonable to you ?
 

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Ok, thanks for that point.

I can come with one of your explanation. I hope Kishi knows what he is doing....

also, What do you think about these three explanations:

My three explanations:

1) Sasuke used too much chakra against Madara while he was doing most of the job
OR
2) Sasuke got time to shine against Madara who is smart with great power, while Naruto got time to shine against Kaguya who just depends on her greater overhelming power and haxx
3) Kishi wanted to make them equal, while talking about Naruto with no Bijuu just like Ashura was to Indra, so he retconn it and then Naruto having bijuu friends in himself making him supperior, showing how friendship are good.

Could one of them be reasonable to you ?
@Bold he didn't though why do people thing his reserves are small is beyond me.
the 2nd one is more likely Sasuke took front line vs Madara and now Naruto vs Kaguya.
 

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Ok, thanks for that point.

I can come with one of your explanation. I hope Kishi knows what he is doing....

also, What do you think about these three explanations:

My three explanations:

1) Sasuke used too much chakra against Madara while he was doing most of the job
OR
2) Sasuke got time to shine against Madara who is smart with great power, while Naruto got time to shine against Kaguya who just depends on her greater overhelming power and haxx
3) Kishi wanted to make them equal, while talking about Naruto with no Bijuu just like Ashura was to Indra, so he retconn it and then Naruto having bijuu friends in himself making him supperior, showing how friendship are good.

Could one of them be reasonable to you ?

on mobile...shii sks I'll reply to this later wen I gt to my PC :/
 

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Thanks a lot ;). Yeah I believe Sasuke was at offence when kaguya was more powerfull, but idk.

What do you think about these three explanations:

My three explanations:

1) Sasuke used too much chakra against Madara while he was doing most of the job
OR
2) Sasuke got time to shine against Madara who is smart with great power, while Naruto got time to shine against Kaguya who just depends on her greater overhelming power and haxx
3) Kishi wanted to make them equal, while talking about Naruto with no Bijuu just like Ashura was to Indra, so he retconn it and then Naruto having bijuu friends in himself making him supperior, showing how friendship are good.

Could one of them be reasonable to you ?

I don't this Sasuke's reserves are small, as they never have been. But, it could very well be a combination of these factors. In my opinion, Naruto has to align in power with Ashura, so he would bring out that avatar. Sasuke will have to match Indra, so, he would bring out that Susano'o with two horns. He has four horns at the moment.

Sasuke did use chakra a lot to get out of the dimension. How much? We don't know. Let's see how this plays out. I think most of his abilities are still a mystery. We need more info.
 

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I don't this Sasuke's reserves are small, as they never have been. But, it could very well be a combination of these factors. In my opinion, Naruto has to align in power with Ashura, so he would bring out that avatar. Sasuke will have to match Indra, so, he would bring out that Susano'o with two horns. He has four horns at the moment.

Sasuke did use chakra a lot to get out of the dimension. How much? We don't know. Let's see how this plays out. I think most of his abilities are still a mystery. We need more info.

Yeah I completly agree. I don't see reason why Kishi wouldn't give Sasuke six paths techniques, it would be respose to Naruto's Senjutsu of six paths, which would be awesome and make battle more interesting.
 
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Sasuke is not being nerfed at all. He's just not as strong as fanboys hyped him up to be.
 

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Sasuke is not being nerfed at all. He's just not as strong as fanboys hyped him up to be.
So you're saying all that power he got with only 1 new technique is not a nerf?
 

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He is fodder

No need for fancy wordings or explanations he has been diarrhea since Ems reveal.
 

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Your second theory is what I think as well, I think Kishi is trying to please all fanbases for the green, Kishi allowed Sasuke to shine against Madara, Naruto will shine against the main villain. Sakura, Obito had their moments and now Kakashi will get his too.
 

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Your third theory seems to be consistent with the events of the last chapter. I know it's been over-discussed already, but that Obito chakra enabling Kakashi to get double MS and PS really reinforces the power of friendship theme.

However, Naruto and Sasuke are supposed to be taking care of business together. And I don't think it was coincidence that Kaguya chose to send Sasuke to another dimension. Maybe she considered him to be the bigger threat.

Sasuke's time to shine hasn't come yet, but I'm sure it will. But it will be in tandem with or in defense of Naruto.
 

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Very well explained, and I pretty much agree.
 

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My three explanations:

1) Sasuke used too much chakra against Madara while he was doing most of the job
OR
2) Sasuke got time to shine against Madara who is smart with great power, while Naruto got time to shine against Kaguya who just depends on her greater overhelming power and haxx
3) Kishi wanted to make them equal, while talking about Naruto with no Bijuu just like Ashura was to Indra, so he retconn it and then Naruto having bijuu friends in himself making him supperior, showing how friendship are good.

Thanks for reading !

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sasuke did not do most of the work against madara. naruto fought all of the limbo madara had, as well as destroying most of the chibaku tensie.

both of them got time to shine against madara. sasuke didn't really do anything that particularly stood out against madara. he cut him in half, but that was more due to circumstance of madara trying to get kakashi's eye.

3, i don't really know what you mean by retconn, as nothing has been retconn about what we are discussing.

the simple reason is, sasuke doesn't have the fire power to keep up with naruto and kaguya. doubtful that that needle did anything. gentle fist requires the injection of chakra and the chakra point. she may have shot a needle at sasuke, but she didn't inject him with any chakra. the only excuse for sasuke is he's just not that powerful.
 

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poor excuses, he took out the senbon affecting his chakra point and chakra absorption didnt affect his fighting when Kaguya did the first time she arrived

he is performing poor because his gift wrapped rinnegan came with limitations

But had Madara running with his tail behind his legs.

lawl, he had already decided to get his other rinnegan after naruto and sasuke almost sealed him with Hagoromo's jutsu
 

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It's because he lacks Taijutsu. Ninjutsu doesn't work on Kaguya.
 

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Nope, it's Kishi's shitty writing at this point. Let's analyze what he gave to him:

- Increased physical attributes (reflexes, speed, strength ecc.)
- Hagoromo's chakra: jutsus massively improved and senjutsu chakra)
- A tomoed Rinnegan with one immensely nerfed ability. We don't even know why Hagoromo didn't give him two normal rinnegans instead of a tomoed one... whose origin is still uknown. It's like a mixture of Kaguya's Rinnegan and a standard one. Can he even use the paths techs at this point lol?
- A moon seal... without a special ability like Naruto's.

His PS, while having monstrous offensive, was raped by Kaguya without using ninjutsu. Only freaking chakra arms. Rinneswap is a Kawarimi (why do no one anymore use Kawarimi? Ah, yes. Because it was uber and Kishimoto made all of his characters forgot about it) with restrictions.

Sasuke's performance is an example of lazy writing, which we had seen already in EMS Sasuke's performance. Well, atleast his character isn't shit yet like so many others in this wretched manga.
 

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nah .. he's just pathetically fodder ... =D
More fodder than the guy in your ava + sig?

poor excuses, he took out the senbon affecting his chakra point and chakra absorption didnt affect his fighting when Kaguya did the first time she arrived

he is performing poor because his gift wrapped rinnegan came with limitations



lawl, he had already decided to get his other rinnegan after naruto and sasuke almost sealed him with Hagoromo's jutsu
He decided to get his rinnegan after he tried but failed in taking sasuke's eye. Are we reading the same Manga end of days?

sasuke did not do most of the work against madara. naruto fought all of the limbo madara had, as well as destroying most of the chibaku tensie.

both of them got time to shine against madara. sasuke didn't really do anything that particularly stood out against madara. he cut him in half, but that was more due to circumstance of madara trying to get kakashi's eye.

3, i don't really know what you mean by retconn, as nothing has been retconn about what we are discussing.

the simple reason is, sasuke doesn't have the fire power to keep up with naruto and kaguya. doubtful that that needle did anything. gentle fist requires the injection of chakra and the chakra point. she may have shot a needle at sasuke, but she didn't inject him with any chakra. the only excuse for sasuke is he's just not that powerful.
If sasuke analyzing madara's technique and coming up with a strategy while executing this strategy (damaging madara thrice) and protecting team 7 from IT is not sasuke doing most of the work then you're absolutely right. You should totally put that in one of your fan fictions.

Also powerful doesn't always mean bigger AoE attacks and more firepower.

Nope, it's Kishi's shitty writing at this point. Let's analyze what he gave to him:

- Increased physical attributes (reflexes, speed, strength ecc.)
- Hagoromo's chakra: jutsus massively improved and senjutsu chakra)
- A tomoed Rinnegan with one immensely nerfed ability. We don't even know why Hagoromo didn't give him two normal rinnegans instead of a tomoed one... whose origin is still uknown. It's like a mixture of Kaguya's Rinnegan and a standard one. Can he even use the paths techs at this point lol?
- A moon seal... without a special ability like Naruto's.

His PS, while having monstrous offensive, was raped by Kaguya without using ninjutsu. Only freaking chakra arms. Rinneswap is a Kawarimi (why do no one anymore use Kawarimi? Ah, yes. Because it was uber and Kishimoto made all of his characters forgot about it) with restrictions.

Sasuke's performance is an example of lazy writing, which we had seen already in EMS Sasuke's performance. Well, atleast his character isn't shit yet like so many others in this wretched manga.
Agreed.
 
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