THEORY: Minato has Wind Release

[a banned cartoon]

Minato natural element is wind, hence him creating the rasengan which is a wind based jutsu jheesh... However.. although its possible ur may have been able to fuse chakra to his kunai... The (blue) chakra cloak was never shown on them, so I doubt that's actually what he did.

Rasengan is not a wind technique, it's a condensed ball of chakra, however it utilizes wind. If you think about it, it looks like a big ball of wind. Rasenshurikan is a wind technique however.

 

[Itachi Sarutobi]

Minato natural element is wind, hence him creating the rasengan which is a wind based jutsu jheesh... However.. although its possible ur may have been able to fuse chakra to his kunai... The (blue) chakra cloak was never shown on them, so I doubt that's actually what he did.

Rasengan isn't an element based jutsu..

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

He surely has an element. But as to what it is will probably remain unknown. His bases his fighting ability purely on speed and quick strikes. Basically a one hit finish.

 

[a banned cartoon]

Rasengan is a wind based jutsu. Chakra is manipulated through the users natural wind element. That was the reason Kakashi chose Jiraiyah to teach him as he was skilled in this discipline. Read back over the mangas you will see that it is.

It's deffinately not. Kakashi wasn't even sure of Naruto's natural element, up until shippuden. So why would he send Naruto to do a technique like that when he's not even sure of his natural element. You should read back over the manga, and then you'll know. He learns this right before destroying Kakuzu.

 

[Narutofan4203]

Special Note: Please pay special attention to question #5 & #6.
If you dont agree with me after reading those points, come at me bro :noc:
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...There is no way a normal Kunai is able to completely cut through the 8 Tails tentacle in this manner:

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1. According to Karuma, 8 Tails is the 2nd most powerful Bijuu (on a power scale)

2. Killer Bee is a PERFECT Jinchurriki--that was an actual tentacle of the 8 Tails (not a chakra cloak)

3. His son (Naruto) was born with Wind Release, and Nature Types have been known to be passed down genetically.

4. Minato has never been seen using a Nature Type, but all shinobi are born with an affinity for one. Additionally, it was said that Minato created the Rasengan to eventually combine with his Nature Type, but never completed the Jutsu.

5. The only other time in history it was been stated in the manga that tentacles were cut off... it was using a Nature Transformation. 3rd Raikaige and Sasuke both used a form of Lightning Release to accomplish this feat. Kakashi used it too, just on other Bijuu (not the 8 Tails).

AND THESE WERE CONSIDERED IMPRESSIVE FEATS, even using a Nature Transformation.


6. Last but not least. Before Minato cut the 8 Tails Tentacle, he was on top of "A" about to stab him.
"A" was wrapped in lighning release, at FULL POWER (he stated he was at Full Speed when Minato Dodged him).

Do you honestly think that Minato (genius level intelligence) was going to try to ...
cut through "A" Lightning Release Armor using only his kunai?!?!?












So... If Minato DID combine a Nature Release with the Kunai:

A. It couldnt have been using Water Release
B. It couldnt have been using Earth Release
C. It couldnt have been using Fire Release
D. Lighning release is CLEARLY SEEN whenever used
E. Wind Release is OFTEN used in combination with weapons, especially Kunai. It has no properties that would make it "easily Identifiable" because it doesnt "light up" when used like Lightning Release does.













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If you believe he DIDNT use Wind Release in this sinerio, please explain how he was able to cut it that fast and deep off pure reflex combined with NO nature release........ :shrug:
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Minato has haki..
But yeah, he has wind release.

 

[Trollo Lucilfer]

good theory!

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Whilst nobody knows what element he has and his name has been played out by fans to argue he has certain elements ill bypass his name all together.

Im not arguing whether minato has wind or not because its unknown. Im however arguing your points about his kunai.
First this is that hirashin kunai's are not the same as normal kunai's. They are heavier and have a wield

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to it. Its very possible that its due to its shape and density along with impact is what allowed him to do what he did and not because of any nature affiliation. Also note something important, which is the hachibi's tail. The hachibi's tails decreases in width when it reaches its end. The part that was cut was near its end which isn't as thick as the middle

Secondly every time, a character has used chakra in conjunction with a weapon its shown. I will not show you all this, i will however show you how a wind infused weapon looks like and compare it with minato's hirashin kunai.

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If it was wind infused though the aim was never the hachibi's tail, it would get through it like how a hot sharp knife gets through butter. All in all its possible he had wind however what you've based it on isn't strong enough

DAMMIT BLAZE,

Leave my poor threads alone lol.

So you honestly believe that the "density" and "shape" of the special Kunai is what allowed him to cut through the "tip" (lol) of the 8 Tails tentacle so QUICKLY and EASILY??? I'd believe his special Kunai are Wind Release Kunai before I'd believe they are shaped special to cut through anything LOL. With all the feats I've seen killer bee do in transformation, and all the hype about the 8 Tails power, I just HIGHLY DOUBT this. When Sasuke and the 3rd Raikage did it, it was something powerful/special in the Manga. Please look at the Manga page below:

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Look at the Kunai Minato throws at the enemy to show young Kakashi exactly where the enemy was located. It goes DIRECTLY THROUGH the "Tree Mushroom" lol and sticks in the cement behind it, just the way it happened when Asuma was teaching Naruto about wind release combined with Kunai. It went right through the tree like butter and stuck in the cement. This was the first time I thought to myself he could be infusing Wind Release into his Kunai, because of their sheer cutting power is = Wind Release.

 

[a banned cartoon]

Well if you study Japanese its obvious.

Namikaze:

Nami - Wave or Tidal

Kaze - Wind (Like Kazekage)

Together with Minato(Meaning Harbor) it states: "A harbor with rough seas".

Its a pun with Uzumaki, because Uzu means "Whirlpool"

That makes sense that Uzu means whirlpool, because there clans symbol looks like a whirlpool. This may also be because the Uzumaki's lived on an small island surrounded by water.

EDIT: So they used a whirlpool symbol, and Kishimoto thought that name would be good since they lived on an island, and he linked it all together. It's amazing how in depth Kishimoto goes with his stories. I think that he has thought this all out to this point, from the very beginning of the manga.

 

[Blaze Release]

@ MilwaukeegHost Ive already said the OP is no where near strong enough and all you've done is add more weak at best points in your reply. I'm not going to continue this because so far none of what you've said is strong enough

 

[Yugito]

Sorry I'm not trying to be rude but I thought it was assumed that he did have wind release since he invented the rashengan so logically he would have had to be capable of wind release in order to use the rashengan

 

[Yugito]

Rasengan is not a wind technique, it's a condensed ball of chakra, however it utilizes wind. If you think about it, it looks like a big ball of wind. Rasenshurikan is a wind technique however.

That so contradicts its self extremely bad and makes no sense

 

[Megatolium]

That makes sense that Uzu means whirlpool, because there clans symbol looks like a whirlpool. This may also be because the Uzumaki's lived on an small island surrounded by water.

EDIT: So they used a whirlpool symbol, and Kishimoto thought that name would be good since they lived on an island, and he linked it all together. It's amazing how in depth Kishimoto goes with his stories. I think that he has thought this all out to this point, from the very beginning of the manga.

His got tons of connections and puns within Naruto.

Example, Tobi meaning Jump in Japanese. Tobi in Naruto "jumps" dimensions, like the movie Jumper if you watched it (A reference by Kishimoto perhaps?)

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Minato natural element is wind, hence him creating the rasengan which is a wind based jutsu jheesh... However.. although its possible ur may have been able to fuse chakra to his kunai... The (blue) chakra cloak was never shown on them, so I doubt that's actually what he did.

Rasengan is not Wind based, Naruto is the only person to mix his chakra element with the Rasengan; and the normal Rasengan is just shape manipulation at its highest level.

 

[a banned cartoon]

That so contradicts its self extremely bad and makes no sense

Actually I don't contradict myself. Do you know what the word utilize means. First Naruto spins his hands to create a rasengan, by doing this he's blowing air at an accelerated rate, and then condensing it into chakra. When he uses wind release on the rasengan he's created he turns it into a rasenshurikan. The only way he uses wind when creating a rasengan is when he keeps spinning his hands to blow wind, but that doesn't mean that he's using wind release. I mean I can blow wind to, like when I blow out a candle. That's what I meant by utilize.

 

[Prime Rib]

Minato dosent have wind release, his kunai is special its heavier and sharper then a regular kunai, and also he has alot of strength

 

[cptenn94]

nice thread.....there are 2 possibilities.....one is you are correct, and minato has wind style, or 2 that minato is really strong(physical strength wise)

i found part of another thread here it is

The kanji for Yondaime's family name Namikaze are wave and wind, and Naruto's mothers family name Uzumaki means whirlpool (a surname also related to water). Naruto's natural element was revealed to be wind when Kakashi tested him. Around this time it was mentioned that most Jounin ninja can control two elements. This sets the bar for Naruto to prove to prove himself strong, so he will have another element as well as wind.

so i think that minato has wind and water element. And btw ftg is not a lighting element.


and since it seems that both of his parents are tied to water(last names) naruto will get waterstyle....

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Minato natural element is wind, hence him creating the rasengan which is a wind based jutsu jheesh... However.. although its possible ur may have been able to fuse chakra to his kunai... The (blue) chakra cloak was never shown on them, so I doubt that's actually what he did.

HOW DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE HIS NATURAL ELEMENT IS "WIND".

I wrote this whole thread as possible support for my theory. But why do you believe this to be true???

Well never know until Kishimoto confirms it though. It would make sense though seeing how that's Naruto's nature. It also seems like rasangen utilizes wind, even though its not a wind technique. If you think about it you've gotta be able to use wind to create it, and seeing how Minato invented it, it would make sense.

I always thought that Minato/Jiraiya used wind release to form a Rasengan with NO HANDS. There has to be a reason they can do it with no hand signs or movement whatsoever...

Maybe because they don want to learn it. Jiraiya knows rasengan and his two elements are earth and fire. -_-
Kakashi knows it and his elements are not wind. We havent even seen him use a wind technique.

Correct. Rasengan COULD be a Chakra Manipulation Jutsu ONLY, with no "wind" useage at all. But I doubt it.

Rasengan is a wind based jutsu. Chakra is manipulated through the users natural wind element. That was the reason Kakashi chose Jiraiyah to teach him as he was skilled in this discipline. Read back over the mangas you will see that it is.

Read back over the mangas, you say? Can you please post the Manga and Page that it says this???

It's deffinately not. Kakashi wasn't even sure of Naruto's natural element, up until shippuden. So why would he send Naruto to do a technique like that when he's not even sure of his natural element. You should read back over the manga, and then you'll know. He learns this right before destroying Kakuzu.

I agree here. I honestly think Rasengan is NOT a wind based technique. But I do think they use Wind Release (Jman, Minato) in order to form the Rasengan with no hands.

 

[thegame]

I can "come at you", but that is not gonna make your assumptions wrong, but it might as well be Kushina that he got wind release from?

And one might as well be able to cut it without using wind release, we haven't seen anybody fail at it, so you have no valid arguments there...

Minato made a counter attack to attack A, and wind isn't the only way to break the lightning armor, besides you never know till you try... But obviously it's a good argument that if he had wind release that would make the situation different.

Don't forget it was their 1st and only meeting ever, and they only knew rumors about each other.

And don't think I say this, cause I don't agree. I do. It's definitely more likely that Narutos wind affinity comes from Minato, but we will probably never know, and it doesn't matter anyway. There just isn't enough evidence to tell his nature, but it is of course most likely to be wind.. In general wind affinity users don't use their affinity for much so..

 

[cata124]

Probably

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Minato natural element is wind, hence him creating the rasengan which is a wind based jutsu jheesh... However.. although its possible ur may have been able to fuse chakra to his kunai... The (blue) chakra cloak was never shown on them, so I doubt that's actually what he did.

Uh, wind release combined in a weapon doesnt always look "blue", I thought that was the color of regular chakra? I dont think Asuma's blade was blue, but he always fought with it using Wind Nature.

Maybe because they don want to learn it. Jiraiya knows rasengan and his two elements are earth and fire. -_-
Kakashi knows it and his elements are not wind. We havent even seen him use a wind technique.

This. I agree.

No that wasnt a wind release. In the anime it was a REGULAR KUNAI STRIKE. You can go watch the episode yourself.

The genuis was going to use a regular kunai to beat A

So you honestly believe:

1) That was a REGULAR kunai strike
2) He cut the tentacle of a TB with just a Kunai
3) He was about to cut through "A" Lightning Release Armor with a regular Kunai.

KILL YASELF.com (just playing)


lol

Okayy.. If wind is not needed for Rasengan then how come Sasuke, Sakura or any other ninja(except Naruto) can't do it? Other jutsu were derived and created by Naruto from Rasengan. That is the full extent of the Rasengan and no one was able to accomplish this, a part from Naruto.

Kakashi CAN do the Rasengan. WTH are you talking about.

Minato has haki..
But yeah, he has wind release.

Haki = ?????

And how do you know he has Wind Release.....???

@ MilwaukeegHost Ive already said the OP is no where near strong enough and all you've done is add more weak at best points in your reply. I'm not going to continue this because so far none of what you've said is strong enough

BLAZE,


But from my standpoint, neither have you.

Actually, from my standpoint, my arguements are STRONGER than yours. Your telling me that:

1) He was able to cut through the 8 Tails with a "heavier" kunai and pure brute STRENGTH (which he has never shown himself to be exceedingly "strong")
2) This GENIUS was planning on cutting through "A" Lightning Release Armor with his kunai.




You say my arguement is not worth debating, but you expect me to believe this explanation too?!?

Rasengan is not Wind based, Naruto is the only person to mix his chakra element with the Rasengan; and the normal Rasengan is just shape manipulation at its highest level.

Wrong. When Kakashi tried to do this with his nature release (lightning), Chidori was the result.

Minato dosent have wind release, his kunai is special its heavier and sharper then a regular kunai, and also he has alot of strength

So THIS is how he planned on cutting through "A" lightning release armor at FULL POWER. LMAO