[Theory] Has Sasuke losed the ability to use the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan?

[Turson]

Of course not, the very idea is ridiculous. Do you really think that Sasuke would shrug off the losing of EMS just like that? Besides, why would Kishi give him power up only to take it back right away, without showing the full exctent of Sasukes EMS power?

There is no benefit to switch between MS - EMS.

Not really. Itachi said that EMS awakens completely new eye technique. It also gives its user the potential of achieving Perfect Susanoo. Actually, Sasukes Susanoo changed right after he awakened EMS.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

EMS is Sasuke's power up that should elevate him to Naruto's level (I guess he will get perfect susanoo or smth in the future).

As much as I dislike Sauce it is HIGHLY unlikely kishi would take this away from him, especially because we literally saw nothing from his EMS. If what you are suggesting is true then it would either have to be a temporary loss, or he will be compensated with some other powerup which HAS to be the rinnegan if not EMS.

Either that or Naruto is gonna get extracted....

I can't see any way which makes sense for Sasuke to get the Rinnegan. Madara needed 50 years and he had legit Senju DNA taken from the very source.

If Sasuke awakens to Rinnegan in a matter of weeks, I will be very pissed.

 

[Turson]

I can't see any way which makes sense for Sasuke to get the Rinnegan. Madara needed 50 years and he had legit Senju DNA taken from the very source.

If Sasuke awakens to Rinnegan in a matter of weeks, I will be very pissed.

Alright, so how MS Sasuke will be able to match Naruto in your opinion?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Alright, so how MS Sasuke will be able to match Naruto in your opinion?

He won't.

Naruto is getting 100% Kyuubi soon enough and nothing Sasuke could get without plot no jutsu will take him above a 100% BM Naruto.

The manga should be ending soonish, so it's about time Naruto beats Sasuke.

 

[SenseiMartian]

I think it is too early to tell, but that would definitely be an interesting twist. Good job.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Of course not, the very idea is ridiculous. Do you really think that Sasuke would shrug off the losing of EMS just like that? Besides, why would Kishi give him power up only to take it back right away, without showing the full exctent of Sasukes EMS power?

That depends on what kishi intends to do with sasuke. Braking cycle of hatred is main idea of this manga and for that sasuke doesnt have to fight naruto, especially when he has change of heart.

Not really. Itachi said that EMS awakens completely new eye technique. It also gives its user the potential of achieving Perfect Susanoo. Actually, Sasukes Susanoo changed right after he awakened EMS.

And EMS does grant new technique, but what of it of sasuke lost it? And MS puts a strain on the eyes, probably even causes blindness again. We never saw any1 revert to 2-tomoe sharingan for w/e reason.

 

[Turson]

He won't.

Not saying that Sasuke will win, since it obvious that Naruto will be the winner, but their final fight must be epic, which means it has to be close battle.

Naruto is getting 100% Kyuubi soon enough and nothing Sasuke could get without plot no jutsu will take him above a 100% BM Naruto.

There is something - Perfect Susanoo.

And EMS does grant new technique, but what of it of sasuke lost it?

Yeah, and Kishimoto didnt even show it. Come on, lets be serious...

 

[pateuvasiliu]

There is something - Perfect Susanoo.

I will have to politely disagree here.

The Kyuubi is the Kyuubi, after all. However strong the Uchiha were, the Kyuubi is the strongest Tailed beast -CREATED- by the Sage, and a technique which is made through their eyes would make no sense surpassing it.

Madara said the PS is as strong as a Bijuu, but the Kyuubi is -THE- Bijuu. There is no doubt in my mind that Naruto will become the strongest character in the manga once he gets 100% Kyuubi.

I mean, he's already top 5 easily, no. 1 in chakra and speed, and he's only 50%.

 

[Turson]

The Kyuubi is the Kyuubi, after all. However strong the Uchiha were, the Kyuubi is the strongest Tailed beast -CREATED- by the Sage, and a technique which is made through their eyes would make no sense surpassing it.

From what Ive seen up to this point... Kurama might be stronger, but not enough to win against Perfect Susanoo without any problems. It would be hell of a fight for both sides, thats for sure.

Madara said the PS is as strong as a Bijuu, but the Kyuubi is -THE- Bijuu. There is no doubt in my mind that Naruto will become the strongest character in the manga once he gets 100% Kyuubi.

Not yet, Hashirama would still be vastly more powerful. In order to surpass him Naruto needs to get the other half of Kyuubis chakra and then combine it with nature energy. Then he would stand a chance.

I mean, he's already top 5 easily, no. 1 in chakra and speed, and he's only 50%.

Yeah, and Sasuke is meant by Kishimoto to be equal to him. So no lose of EMS.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Yeah, and Sasuke is meant by Kishimoto to be equal to him.

That's an old statement...

Right now Naruto is fighting against the strongest shinobi in existence ( Edo Madara > Hashirama ) and he pretty much solo'd the war.

In comparison Sasuke beat Kabuto along with his brother and rezzed Oro.

Their achievements really do not suggest they are equal.

 

[Zee Seh]

well nice theory indeed.. seems like people here refuse to agree wid u.. so heres a question. wen itachi was revived he had his MS so now they had 4 of itachis eyes.. one pair fused wid the MS of sasukes and the other one wid himself..if ur theory was correct then the time wen itachi was revived sasuke shuld have lost his EMS. well there certainly cant be 4 eyes at the same point of time..or the situation shuld have been like itachi never had MS after being revived..so ur theory says abt link...hmm itachis eyes were a dead mans eyes(sounds a little cheap) so they certainly cant have any effect on saasukes EMS .. my suggestion to u is wait fr the flashbacks to end.. they wuld certainly show us sasuke wid his proud EMS eyes . and wuldnt it be unfair fr sasuke... people already say that he need a powerup and u say that he has lost his EMS ... that wuld kindda blow off sasuke in his top ninja listings...

 

[Turson]

That's an old statement...

Its always legit, they are rivals after all. And unlike Hashirama and Madara, they were close to each other in terms of power for very long time.

In comparison Sasuke beat Kabuto along with his brother and rezzed Oro.

Thats becuase Sasuke is still accustoming to him new eyes, he said that himself. We have only seen a glimpse of Sasukes EMS power.

 

[AlphaScythian]

well nice theory indeed.. seems like people here refuse to agree wid u.. so heres a question. wen itachi was revived he had his MS so now they had 4 of itachis eyes.. one pair fused wid the MS of sasukes and the other one wid himself..if ur theory was correct then the time wen itachi was revived sasuke shuld have lost his EMS. well there certainly cant be 4 eyes at the same point of time..or the situation shuld have been like itachi never had MS after being revived..so ur theory says abt link...hmm itachis eyes were a dead mans eyes(sounds a little cheap) so they certainly cant have any effect on saasukes EMS .. my suggestion to u is wait fr the flashbacks to end.. they wuld certainly show us sasuke wid his proud EMS eyes . and wuldnt it be unfair fr sasuke... people already say that he need a powerup and u say that he has lost his EMS ... that wuld kindda blow off sasuke in his top ninja listings...

To answer ur question. 4 itachi's MS can easily happen, just as there was madara and nagato + obito with rinnegan, it all means that eyes share same source of energy. Once u sacrifice ur eyes, u get cut off from the source.
It depends on plot, sasuke doesnt have to fight naruto, or he may be finally weak to fight him, since he is bound to lose anyway (probably). If sasuke turns good, which is happening, whats the point in fighting naruto? But he still is easily top 10.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

well nice theory indeed.. seems like people here refuse to agree wid u.. so heres a question. wen itachi was revived he had his MS so now they had 4 of itachis eyes.. one pair fused wid the MS of sasukes and the other one wid himself..if ur theory was correct then the time wen itachi was revived sasuke shuld have lost his EMS. well there certainly cant be 4 eyes at the same point of time.

Good idea, but I have an instant argument.

Edo Nagato, Edo Madara, Obito + Jins.

That's about 11 Rinnegan Eyes existing at the same time ( 7 from Obito, 2 from Nagato, 2 from Madara ) when there are only 2 Rinnegan eyes originally.

 

[Smd]

lol
your thread fails so hard.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Its always legit, they are rivals after all. And unlike Hashirama and Madara, they were close to each other in terms of power for very long time.

Not so legit with latest chapter. Where does it say they will fight again?

Thats becuase Sasuke is still accustoming to him new eyes, he said that himself. We have only seen a glimpse of Sasukes EMS power.

I would be glad if that was the case, but why doesnt he use it then? We provided logically plausible explanation.

 

[Turson]

People, just anwer my questions:
1. Why would Sasuke shrug off the losing of EMS like it was nothing?
2. Why would Kishimoto give Sasuke a new toy and then take it away without displaying its abilities?

 

[Turson]

Not so legit with latest chapter. Where does it say they will fight again?

The whole plot of the story is leading to their battle, its obvious.

I would be glad if that was the case, but why doesnt he use it then?

What do you mean? Sasuke is not fighting anyone now. Could Sasuke use complete Susanoo from the very start when he awakend MS? Nope, his power grew along with his experience. Its the same with EMS.

 

[Frikid]

Well there is one flaw in this theory.
You see Obito could use the rinnegan even after Nagato's revival.
Which means edo's eyes don't effect any other person who have borrowed their power.

And one more important thing.
If we go by your theory, then , sasuke should have lost his EMS just after itachi used his EMS and not after he used izanami and lost his eye.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

People, just anwer my questions:
1. Why would Sasuke shrug off the losing of EMS like it was nothing?
2. Why would Kishimoto give Sasuke a new toy and then take it away without displaying its abilities?

Why would he use MS, then?

You see Obito could use the rinnegan even after Nagato's revival.
Which means edo's eyes don't effect any other person who have borrowed their power.

The Rinnegan is something which was passed from the Outer Path to the others. I'm not sure how that works, but when the Outer Path gets it the others have it too.

Still, the Rinnegan and the Sharingan are different. Sasuke's EMS is made of 2 MS which are tied together, whereas the Rinnegan are just eyes, with no outside link.

If we go by your theory, then , sasuke should have lost his EMS just after itachi used his EMS and not after he used izanami and lost his eye.

Come again?