Theory: Banbutsu Sōzō/Creation of all things - Kabuto's Ultimate Jutsu?

[Ryuu..]

Oh, that wasn't directed at you. I was just saying that in case someone tried to bring up that it came from the Sage's Rinnegan, since as far as I know, it was just said to be an ability he had. xd

aha ok dude xd

 

[TouchMyMangos]

How would the jutsu make Kabuto stronger though?

 

[Ryuu..]

How would the jutsu make Kabuto stronger though?

Because it would allow him to make his imagination become reality and allow him to create illusion, if you get what i'm saying.

 

[Genduko]

As we know, this was initially a jutsu used by the sage of 6 paths. I've used what I know to come up with a theory as to when we will next be seeing this technique...

What do we know about this technique?

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The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the prior form.

The sage used this ability to split the Ten-Tails into nine tailed beasts. It is also said that the technique Izanagi is based on this technique.

Splitting

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Now for the theory
I believe the jutsu Kabuto referred to as 'that other jutsu' is infact Creation of all things:

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Firstly, consider the fact Itachi is now heading for Kabuto in order to end Edo Tensei. How is Kabuto possibliy going to hold up against an edo Itachi? Truth is, he can't. I mean, he could use Edo Tensei to summon more dead shinobi's but who could he possibly resurrect? Hashirama? Tobirama? Hiruzen? Minato? Dead God's stomach. Orochimaru? Well he wasn't totally sealed by the sword of Totsuka so it's possible he could return but he would get spanked by Itachi. So he's a pointless summon.

Could Kabuto summon Shisui and Jiraiya?

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I'll leave that up to you...........

Even if he could summon Jiraiya or Shisui, that's hardly his 'other jutsu' - it's just another part of his Edo Tensei.

This is why I believe he is going to use Banbutsu Sōzō against Itachi or very shortly in the manga. This technique will allow Kabuto to form incredible lifeforms or spiritual beings that could wipe the floor with Itachi or any other foe he encounters. Consider that he also has an infinite amount of things to create as the boundaries are only what limits his imagination. Kabuto also said that he 'will learn the secrets of the Sage of 6 paths' - funnily enough Creation of all things was the Sage's ultimate jutsu.

Logically, we can assume that there must be a connection between what Kabuto has said about learning the secrets and 'that jutsu' - 'that jutsu' being creation of all things and the secrets being those of the SO6P. By having Edo Tensei and Creation of all things, Kabuto would be invincible - just as he claimed.

But how would Kabuto possibly know how to do such a jutsu?

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I think that this is a really significant page in the manga as it points to various things. Notice how Kabuto says he 'created that power'. This could mean many things. He can't be referring to the Rinnegan because Madara already said he unlocked that himself. Edo Tensei is not creating anything it's just a summoning jutsu. And so I concluded that what Kabuto meant by 'Being completed beyond your prime' was the fact he used Creation of all things to somehow enhance Madara's abilities. I accept it could mean other things but this is what I logically came up with.:shrug:

Also notice how Madara was disgusted that Kabuto somehow managed to decipher the Uchiha stone monument. I believe this is where Kabuto learned the secrets of Creation of all things. This was based on a hypothesis from the data he and Orochimaru had gathered. He goes on to say that Madara is proof of that hypothesis and that he can touch a fragment of that God's (So6P) power. I believe that he meant he'd finally learnt the secrets of how to perform this technique.

Ultimately, I believe Kabuto will end up betraying Tobi but that is for another thread.

These were just some of my thoughts. What do you guys think?:shrug:

didnt Danzo destroy that eye with his body with that last jutsu he did before he died hoping to kill sasuke ?

 

[Ryuu..]

didnt Danzo destroy that eye with his body with that last jutsu he did before he died hoping to kill sasuke ?

Yes, but I didn't mention Shisui's eye..............

 

[-Hades-]

Interesting theory and it might be plausible but i for one don't think so because That jutsu is just too strong and Kabuto having it, when he has no connection to the sage whatsoever (none that we know of) is a little far fetched. And besides that if he actually has it, he could do so much more with it... i mean come on, that jutsu basically gives you limitless possibilities.
And also it is Kabuto who modified Madara's body, if it was someone else your theory would be even more plausible but we know that Kabuto worked with Orochimaru on his experiments on different bodies, working with different types of special ninjas with special abilities so he does know how to do this kind of thing. Remember that he was the one to strengthen the Zetsu clones with Hashirama's DNA from Yamato...
So i guess i'm not saying it is impossible for your theory to be true but i find it unlikely.

 

[Ryuu..]

Interesting theory and it might be plausible but i for one don't think so because That jutsu is just too strong and Kabuto having it, when he has no connection to the sage whatsoever (none that we know of) is a little far fetched. And besides that if he actually has it, he could do so much more with it... i mean come on, that jutsu basically gives you limitless possibilities.
And also it is Kabuto who modified Madara's body, if it was someone else your theory would be even more plausible but we know that Kabuto worked with Orochimaru on his experiments on different bodies, working with different types of special ninjas with special abilities so he does know how to do this kind of thing. Remember that he was the one to strengthen the Zetsu clones with Hashirama's DNA from Yamato...
So i guess i'm not saying it is impossible for your theory to be true but i find it unlikely.

Fair enough, but what else could he be talking about when referring to when he says 'touch a fragment of that God's power?'. Put this with the fact he has a second trump card jutsu we are yet to see and this theory fits perfecly.

Yes, Kabuto would be invincible with it, but isn't that what he said he would be with the two Jutsus he has (Edo Tensei and possible Creation of all things)?

 

[Solo]

Kabuto said, "with YOUR power." Referring to Madara's power. And if you continue.. he said "that I've created.."

Madara stops him saying "Don't get the wrong idea, I created this power."

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I doubt Itachi going to stop Edo Tensei easily. So.. Kabuto must have a plan, but I doubt it's the Creation of All Things.

Who knows though. Still I respect your theory. Well thought out.

 

[Ryuu..]

Kabuto said, "with YOUR power." Referring to Madara's power. And if you continue.. he said "that I've created.."

Madara stops him saying "Don't get the wrong idea, I created this power."

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I doubt Itachi going to stop Edo Tensei easily. So.. Kabuto must have a plan, but I doubt it's the Creation of All Things.

Who knows though. Still I respect your theory. Well thought out.

Fair enough, thanks anyway xd

 

[Uchiha Heikou]

Great theory, I think this is very likely true. When Kabuto says "I can now touch a fragment of that god's power with your power that I've created" I believe he is referring to using Madara's Rinnegan through the Edo Tensei to perform the Banbutsu Sōzō. I believe that Kabuto's references to completing Madara's body/power were likely referring to something he'd done with Hashirama/White Zetsu/Yamato to increase his Senju ability, i.e. the uber-mokuton that Naruto smashed.

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[Ryuu..]

Great theory, I think this is very likely true. When Kabuto says "I can now touch a fragment of that god's power with your power that I've created" I believe he is referring to using Madara's Rinnegan through the Edo Tensei to perform the Banbutsu Sōzō. I believe that Kabuto's references to completing Madara's body/power were likely referring to something he'd done with Hashirama/White Zetsu/Yamato to increase his Senju ability, i.e. the uber-mokuton that Naruto smashed.

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Thanks xd

 

[boshans]

Well we can assume that creation of all things IS a rinnegan technique, based on that fact that you NEED a sharingan to use izanagi, which is a technique based off it, but a lesser creation of all things. which would mean to me that it is a rinnegan tech, since the rinnegan is stronger than sharingan, which would be why it is a lesser tech. plus you need to have both uchiha and senju dna inside of you to use izanagi, so i would imagine you need the same thing to use creation. kabuto doesn't have those dna's inside himself...maybe hashirama's, although i doubt it since it is hard to control as told by danzo.

he was most likely just talking about the power of the rinnegan when mentioning he can now touch a fragment of that god's power. a FRAGMENT. if he could somehow use creation i would think that would be more than a fragment. i just find it highly unlikely that he himself would be able to use it. no one even knows how it works, and it doesn't say anywhere that there was info on how to do techniques on the uchiha monument, just history. maybe he would be able to make edo madara use it since he is controlling him, that would be more likely to happen in my mind, not him himself using it.

 

[Ryuu..]

Well we can assume that creation of all things IS a rinnegan technique, based on that fact that you NEED a sharingan to use izanagi, which is a technique based off it, but a lesser creation of all things. which would mean to me that it is a rinnegan tech, since the rinnegan is stronger than sharingan, which would be why it is a lesser tech. plus you need to have both uchiha and senju dna inside of you to use izanagi, so i would imagine you need the same thing to use creation. kabuto doesn't have those dna's inside himself...maybe hashirama's, although i doubt it since it is hard to control as told by danzo.

he was most likely just talking about the power of the rinnegan when mentioning he can now touch a fragment of that god's power. a FRAGMENT. if he could somehow use creation i would think that would be more than a fragment. i just find it highly unlikely that he himself would be able to use it. no one even knows how it works, and it doesn't say anywhere that there was info on how to do techniques on the uchiha monument, just history. maybe he would be able to make edo madara use it since he is controlling him, that would be more likely to happen in my mind, not him himself using it.

But then, you see, I doubt it actually IS a rinnegan technique:


The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the prior form.

I think it's just mastery of Ying Yang chakra.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Kabuto would be too OP if he uses that jutsu lol.

 

[Sephiron]

But then, you see, I doubt it actually IS a rinnegan technique:


The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the prior form.

I think it's just mastery of Ying Yang chakra.

I still find it semi-plausible as the edo mizukage uses illusions based off his mastery of yin chakra to battle opponents.. All one would need is to master the yang chakra along with the yin chakra and the secrets to the technique as Oro and Kabuto did research on the so6p it wouldn't surprise me; however such a technique would require a massive amount of chakra, suggesting why he has yet to use it since his edo is already draining on him and death would be imminent upon use of this jutsu.. But overall it would probably make kabuto OP so I doubt it... But plausible

 

[Ryuu..]

I still find it semi-plausible as the edo mizukage uses illusions based off his mastery of yin chakra to battle opponents.. All one would need is to master the yang chakra along with the yin chakra and the secrets to the technique as Oro and Kabuto did research on the so6p it wouldn't surprise me; however such a technique would require a massive amount of chakra, suggesting why he has yet to use it since his edo is already draining on him and death would be imminent upon use of this jutsu.. But overall it would probably make kabuto OP so I doubt it... But plausible

Fair enough.

 

[Zato]

If you think about it. This is probably the main reason why Kabuto wants Sasuke. Its not to avenge Orochimaru, its to perform test on him since he is the last living Uchiha.

 

[ajpn920]

Nice idea. +rep

 

[Ryuu..]

Nice idea. +rep

aha, thanks man xd

 

[Narubro]

If you think about it. This is probably the main reason why Kabuto wants Sasuke. Its not to avenge Orochimaru, its to perform test on him since he is the last living Uchiha.

Of course it isn't to avenge Oro. He even said he needed Sasuke because he needed a Uchiha, Kabutomaru don't give a damn about avenging Oro

and good theory +rep