Theist beats up a disabled man for not believing in God

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Not really, since theists can include Muslims or anyone who believes in God. Christian was the more accurate. It's just to prevent a religious flame war.
Not really, since she didn't beat up the man for not believing in Jesus and what the Bible says about Jesus, unless I missed something from that video.
 

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Not really, since she didn't beat up the man for not believing in Jesus and what the Bible says about Jesus, unless I missed something from that video.
It doesn't matter what she beat him for. The category she should be placed in is decided by her faith. So, while she is a theist, it is indeed more accurate and fitting to say Christian if she identifies as Christian. Cali changing it had nothing to do with being more fitting or accurate, but to avoid attacks on the Christian community.
 

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It doesn't matter what she beat him for. The category she should be placed in is decided by her faith. So, while she is a theist, it is indeed more accurate and fitting to say Christian if she identifies as Christian. Cali changing it had nothing to do with being more fitting or accurate, but to avoid attacks on the Christian community.
I'm glad you can read Caliburn's thoughts, but his reason to change it is independent from my reason to say it's more fit.

You say the category should be decided by her faith, but then every time a Christian commits a crime, you could just say it's a Christian criminal. F.e Christian woman stole an apple from the shop.
 

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That's the difference between atheists and people of a religion. Atheists do not have a systematically indoctrinated sense of pride and duty so they do not have a reason to get hostile or offended in any way when some disagrees or trashes the views of an atheist. They don't identify themselves with an ideology. It is simply the lack thereof.
 

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I'm glad you can read Caliburn's thoughts, but his reason to change it is independent from my reason to say it's more fit.

You say the category should be decided by her faith, but then every time a Christian commits a crime, you could just say it's a Christian criminal. F.e Christian woman stole an apple from the shop.
Yes, you could. But we're really getting off topic, it doesn't matter.
 

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Yes, you could. But we're really getting off topic, it doesn't matter.
Anyway, I rewatched the video, and it says nothing about the woman specifically being a Christian.

Ok, then go ahead and everytime a christian or a muslim commits a crime, say that a christian criminal or a muslim criminal did this and that, if you wanna be consistent. But with the same effort you could also just find another common denominator, f.e male or female terrorist, blonde or brown criminal.
 

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Re: Christian terrorist beats up a disabled man for not believing in God

First of all, terrorism has no universal definition.

But as we are talking about an American case here, let's see the federal definition of terrorism:

"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

- Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
- Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
- Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.



It still seems like a hate crime to me.
So how is she not a domestic terrorist? To me, it looks like she meets all the requirements.
 

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Dude until I realized that Cali changed the title I was like wtf am I hallucinating or what since I was positive that there was "white terrorist" in the title.

OT: Wow fanatics harm others? Totally new!

Oh btw OP please stop insisting that this is terrorism, you are embarrassing both yourself and actual terrorists.
 
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Anyway, I rewatched the video, and it says nothing about the woman specifically being a Christian.

Ok, then go ahead and everytime a christian or a muslim commits a crime, say that a christian criminal or a muslim criminal did this and that, if you wanna be consistent. But with the same effort you could also just find another common denominator, f.e male or female terrorist, blonde or brown criminal.
You're comparing apples and oranges. The difference between this case and your scenario is that this case has something to do with religion.
 

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Re: Christian terrorist beats up a disabled man for not believing in God

So how is she not a domestic terrorist? To me, it looks like she meets all the requirements.
Then elaborate on your reading comprehension, no offense. She did not try to intimidate or coerce the civilian population, nor did she try to influence the gvmnt's policy or conduct by said actions.
 

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Anyway, I rewatched the video, and it says nothing about the woman specifically being a Christian.

Ok, then go ahead and everytime a christian or a muslim commits a crime, say that a christian criminal or a muslim criminal did this and that, if you wanna be consistent. But with the same effort you could also just find another common denominator, f.e male or female terrorist, blonde or brown criminal.
??? How is it wrong to say that a Christian that commits a crime is Christian criminal? It's not an incorrect title. It might be an inappropriate or unnecessary title(In this case, it is not since her religion is relevant to the issue), but it is not incorrect.
 

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??? How is it wrong to say that a Christian that commits a crime is Christian criminal? It's not an incorrect title. It might be an inappropriate or unnecessary title(In this case, it is not since her religion is relevant to the issue), but it is not incorrect.
And when did I say it's incorrect?
 

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So now you're gonna make assumptions based on the tone of my posts? Way to go. Just like you're jumoing into conclusions about the woman being Christian when in fact it was not specified in the video.
Yes. That's kinda what people do. Your posts gave off a condescending tone due to the sarcasm, so I took it as so.

Anyways, this convo has gone way too off-topic. See ya.
 

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Yes. That's kinda what people do. Your posts gave off a condescending tone due to the sarcasm, so I took it as so.

Anyways, this convo has gone way too off-topic. See ya.
Condescending? Sarcasm? What's condescending or sarcastic in saying that I agree with the title change? But alright, if it came off as such, well, I explained now that's not what I meant.
 

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Re: Christian terrorist beats up a disabled man for not believing in God

Every single group or title you can think of has people who completely mess it up & send a bad example. Fuel for the fire, as a friend said. Religious followers, atheists, agnostics, evolutionists, politicals all have people who are absolute jerks & in most cases use those beliefs to justify giving in to the worst of human nature & the human condition. It doesn't mean there all that way despite their bad examples.
^This.
Shitty people are everywhere and belong to every group. Headlines like this one only make things worse, dividing the people, causing more hatred. And there are still more than enough people, who are too stupid to realize easy things like that.
 
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