The uzumaki will be confirmed to be the original blood line

[Griffith]

This is exactly what my theory proposes except that the uzumaki are the original clan and the elder and younger son garnered the yin and yang nature of his chakra respectively and made it into their own.While the third branch on the diagram is the continued uzumaki clan with the original characteristics of the formentioned chakra

True, it's inferred that the Uzumaki were an older clan considering noone has ever mentioned Whirlpool country. I think the Uzumaki inherited the sealing techniques of the SO6P because they are the only clan known for producing Jinchuuriki. (Rikudou was the Juubi host). They were probably the only clan in the world that could've controlled the Bijuu at some point, so that could've potentially led to the destruction of that country.

 

[orona]

so by your logic where did the uzumaki come from?

 

[NowNoon]

Its saying right there clear as day that NAGATO IS FROM THE SENJU LINEAGE yet your saying he does NOT have Senju DNA. Disagreeing will make your diagrams and "facts" check out but come on. Whatever you have to say about your theory, ITS WRONG, read the manga, and change your theory along with it... OP is blown.

 

[hawaiianmike]

I always though the Uzumaki is what you would get after many years of the Senju and Uchiha interbreeding.

 

[III HOKAGE III]

Wow! This thread is nicely done. I am very sorry to say this but for people who can't understand this thread with the examples that were given ur pretty f***n stupid..
People who are saying senjus came first u are correct he's not stating uzumakis came first .Read his examples its in color for f**k sake.
People who say senju> uzumaki. its like saying Senju> Senju-_- seriously.
people if ur having trouble understanding his thread keep reading until u understand n try not to sound stupid like some of these idiots with invalid arguments.
BTW nice thread kid.+ rep.

 

[Troyg39]

Wow! This thread is nicely done. I am very sorry to say this but for people who can't understand this thread with the examples that were given ur pretty f***n stupid..
People who are saying senjus came first u are correct he's not stating uzumakis came first .Read his examples its in color for f**k sake.
People who say senju> uzumaki. its like saying Senju> Senju-_- seriously.
people if ur having trouble understanding his thread keep reading until u understand n try not to sound stupid like some of these idiots with invalid arguments.
BTW nice thread kid.+ rep.

He is trying to say that the Uzumaki are the original bloodline and the senju and uchiha together equal the Uzumaki. Meaning yes, he's saying the Uzumaki came first. Obviously you don't understand what he's trying to say any more than anyone else.

 

[bl4ckJack]

I have to disagree as well, Lineage is a lineal descent ( ex. Uzumaki ) from an ancestor ( ex. Senju ).
Meaning the true descendants of the SO6P is Uchiha and Senju, I believe the manga already proved that.​

This ^ Guy Explained that "key" word Lineage properly ... which proves OP is wrong

 

[Flowland]

I think the real point here is that Nagato was said to be an Uzumaki and now well, of Senju lineage (umm maybe the translation isn't 100% accurate hehe)
And he can summon the Gedo Mazou, use the rinnegan, the only other person to be able to do that is Madara (and Obito), who is an Uchiha with Senju dna added = SO6P

Nagato doesn't have Uchiha blood as far as we know it and still uses the Rinnegan techs = he is a direct descendant of the SO6P

the end.

 

[XXDeadpoolXX]

I think the real point here is that Nagato was said to be an Uzumaki and now well, of Senju lineage (umm maybe the translation isn't 100% accurate hehe)
And he can summon the Gedo Mazou, use the rinnegan, the only other person to be able to do that is Madara (and Obito), who is an Uchiha with Senju dna added = SO6P

Nagato doesn't have Uchiha blood as far as we know it and still uses the Rinnegan techs = he is a direct descendant of the SO6P

the end.

to add a little kushina and obito(w/ rinnegan) were using chakra chains on bijuu

 

[~Puppet Master~]

you are crazy hashirama>nagato and tsunade, tobirama>naruto bringer of darkness gets him before he goes bm and t

Haha no, Hashirama > Nagato is debatable, but Naruto easily > Tobirama, Bringer of Darkness isn't even canon.

 

[Griffith]

I think the real point here is that Nagato was said to be an Uzumaki and now well, of Senju lineage (umm maybe the translation isn't 100% accurate hehe)
And he can summon the Gedo Mazou, use the rinnegan, the only other person to be able to do that is Madara (and Obito), who is an Uchiha with Senju dna added = SO6P

Nagato doesn't have Uchiha blood as far as we know it and still uses the Rinnegan techs = he is a direct descendant of the SO6P

the end.

The flaw in this logic is that Uchiha Madara's eyes were transplanted into Uzumaki Nagato .. so Nagato does have Uchiha 'blood'

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

you're right senju and uciha is the real descendants of "OS and YS of the So6P" but what DeadManWonderLand trying to said is that if the senju (YS) blood is A and Uciha (OS) Blood is B tha the uzumaki blood is AB (probably the same as S06P)...
OS=Older Son of So6P
YS=Younger Son of So6P


line age simply mean is "from The Same Line" as the tree diagram above

I love you o.o lol but seriously thanks for understanding what i am trying to get across the diagram is actually pretty simple but i can see why some might find it intimidating or ridiculous

 

[Flowland]

Well eyes or not, he isn't a relative of the Uchiha, Danzo could've implanted Madara's rinnegan and not be any better off because he doesn't have the bloodline to use it.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

so by your logic where did the uzumaki come from?

-_- this thread pertains them to be the very clan the sage himself is from.The sage was was a priest and the uzumaki are renowned for their funinjustu.Funinjustu is what priest are typically affiliated with.

 

[III HOKAGE III]

Manga always stated uchiha n Senju were the descended from so6p but uzumaki's were always out of the picture, now that they're coming around to the manga, the little facts that were given prove that uzumakis have a stronger connection to that of the sage of six path . Therefore nagato was able to use the rinnegan. Which means naruto is gnna rape sasuke hahahahahhaahhaha!!!!!!!

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

The flaw in this logic is that Uchiha Madara's eyes were transplanted into Uzumaki Nagato .. so Nagato does have Uchiha 'blood'

that would imply kakashi has uchiha blood and that is as we all know not the case.

 

[Griffith]

I feel as if people shouldn't get caught up in the whole Uzumaki vs. Senju dominance thing...the important thing to know is that they are both descended from the SO6P's younger son, meaning they are related. Also, dudes on this forum forget that when the story of the SO6P's sons was told by Tobi he said: "Time passed and the descendants of the two brothers still warred with each other."

I'm unsure of the time differential between when Rikkudou Sennin died and the pre-village ninja world that Madara and Hashi lived in...but I'm assuming it was a long period of time. Therefore it's conceivable that the Senju evolved from older clans. However, they were probably the strongest and most famous of the clans descended from the younger brother so Obito / Madara would refer to their collective DNA as 'Senju' DNA

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Manga always stated uchiha n Senju were the descended from so6p but uzumaki's were always out of the picture, now that they're coming around to the manga, the little facts that were given prove that uzumakis have a stronger connection to that of the sage of six path . Therefore nagato was able to use the rinnegan. Which means naruto is gnna rape sasuke hahahahahhaahhaha!!!!!!!

thank you it seems you understand this as well kishi is not trying to give it way that is why every mention of the clan is always vague.
They are experts in funinjustu and could extract and seal a tailed beast like nobodies buisness where did they the knowledge ? If senju could it why are they not known for this then ?

 

[SoundBar]

This is a good theory, really worth the read, so please correct me if I'm wrong. You are proposing that the so6p was more or less an Uzumaki, then passed on his inheritance to his younger and older sons, one and Uzumaki with the sages eyes, and the other an Uzumaki with the sages body. Then as time and generations progress, the two sons lineage along the lines created the Senju and Uchiha. Is that right? Or are the two sons not Uzumaki, but just the so6p is?

If they are Uzumaki, then wouldn't there be two distinct direct descendant Uzumaki clans? One with the body of the sage and the other with the eyes?

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I feel as if people shouldn't get caught up in the whole Uzumaki vs. Senju dominance thing...the important thing to know is that they are both descended from the SO6P's younger son, meaning they are related. Also, dudes on this forum forget that when the story of the SO6P's sons was told by Tobi he said: "Time passed and the descendants of the two brothers still warred with each other."

I'm unsure of the time differential between when Rikkudou Sennin died and the pre-village ninja world that Madara and Hashi lived in...but I'm assuming it was a long period of time. Therefore it's conceivable that the Senju evolved from older clans. However, they were probably the strongest and most famous of the clans descended from the younger brother so Obito / Madara would refer to their collective DNA as 'Senju' DNA

I have responded to each person who has questioned me about this thread i would appreciate if i got the same kindness you said getting the eyes gives him uchiha dna are you implying that kakashi is now a uchiha as well ? and if not (because we all know he aint lol)why is different that nagato would somehow get uchiha dna simply from the rinnegan ? You can have it both ways if your theory on him getting the rinnegan implanted somehow gives nagato uchiha dna then that means kakashi also has uchiha dna but since we know that aint true what does that say about your idea in general then ?