The uzumaki will be confirmed to be the original blood line

[MCYoungJT]

I didn't know that anyone doubted they were related

 

[raziel777]

unless you have proof they never state otherwise

Maybe he doesnt but that's were logic comes in handy. If hashi and madara were the first leader of the uchiha and senju, thus part of the first generation, how do you explain the fact that both clan seemed pretty populated at that time ? The elder sons must have had quite the big harem... Clans take time to form, that's why they couldnt have been the first leaders.

 

[Darkdeeds]

I am implying he is a descendant of the untainted branch of the bloodline whose chakra retained the original characteristics of the clan while the two branches morphed what they took (the yin and yang natures respectively made it into their own.

I just don't think there can be an untainted branch. The uzumaki branch would have to come from the younger son. The younger son already "morphed" what he took therefore his descendants would have to have his same "morph". Only way i could see uzumaki having all necessary DNA is to have been the SO6P original clan. If that were the case then your diagram would still end up being wrong. And just a side note alot of real life stuff doesn't correlate with manga's anyway. I don't think even kishi has taken the genealogy class you have. So even if you have this extra knowledge it means little unless kishi looked it up and studied so he could write the manga.

 

[mareiyo]

Uzumaki are distance relatives of the Senju. That's cannon. There is no proof that the Uchiha is in any way related to the Uzumaki. Post the proof plz if you have any.

 

[Draxus]

Nagato being able to use the Rinnegan has NOTHING to do with him being able to hold Senju and Uchia DNA. We've seen time after time you can slap any eye into any ninja and they can use it as long as they have the chakra. The only drawback is you can't deactivate it.

If Nagato is as you say, he should have been able to deactivate the Rinnegan just like Sasuke can deactivate his EMS.

 

[mareiyo]

This seems like a "Naruto will get the rinnegan" troll thread. A Uzumaki is ONLY from the Senju lineage.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Maybe he doesnt but that's were logic comes in handy. If hashi and madara were the first leader of the uchiha and senju, thus part of the first generation, how do you explain the fact that both clan seemed pretty populated at that time ? The elder sons must have had quite the big harem... Clans take time to form, that's why they couldnt have been the first leaders.

they have longevity and the clans were not made soly by having chilldren within their own clan.The intergrated any clan they came across and defeated before making konoha.If they kept it exclusive you would still see a strong senju numbers which we dont.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I just don't think there can be an untainted branch. The uzumaki branch would have to come from the younger son. The younger son already "morphed" what he took therefore his descendants would have to have his same "morph". Only way i could see uzumaki having all necessary DNA is to have been the SO6P original clan. If that were the case then your diagram would still end up being wrong. And just a side note alot of real life stuff doesn't correlate with manga's anyway. I don't think even kishi has taken the genealogy class you have. So even if you have this extra knowledge it means little unless kishi looked it up and studied so he could write the manga.

Them being the original clan is exactly the point of this thread and the diagram backs it up the diagram shows the tree of life and the where the senju and uzumaki are connected the joint configuration does not imply that the senju came first it.In the manga it said the uzumaki is of senju lineage they used the evolutionary term which mean the connection they are talking about is shared through a common ancestor between them.the ancestor being the sage because that is where the shared dna splits off the the sage being an uzumaki split his dna the younger son getting the yang nature and eventually having the senju.and if you are going to deny this be my guess but to post and not even back up your claims.You may not agree with me but at least i provide examples and facts when presenting something i would hope you to do the same or this is going to go nowhere fast.Plus kishi has already touched on the subject of genealogy buy bringing up the progenitor gene into the story.The gene is something that cannot replicate and can only be formed if the essential dna that brought it into existence is present.That means senju and uchiha dna have to become one for the rinnegen to be awakened.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Uzumaki are distance relatives of the Senju. That's cannon. There is no proof that the Uchiha is in any way related to the Uzumaki. Post the proof plz if you have any.

I don't know how much of my thread you actually read but i am tired of explaining it plz pay more attention in school or take up some genealogy classes

 

[sukyyb]

you do remember that the Sharingan came from the Byakugan right?

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

This seems like a "Naruto will get the rinnegan" troll thread. A Uzumaki is ONLY from the Senju lineage.

I never mentioned naruto once in this thread so since you can't read and are making assumptions about something i never even said i think it would be best if you left the thread since you have nothing to contribute

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

you do remember that the Sharingan came from the Byakugan right?

You do know that the byakugan has nothing to do with this thread right ?

 

[Griffith]

you do remember that the Sharingan came from the Byakugan right?

^^ Yeah Kakashi mentioned this early in the series. The Hyuuga are descendants of the SO6P as well. They were probably elitists just like the Uchiha and inbred to keep the bloodline pure .. so their dojutsu developed differently from the Uchiha just like the Uzumaki developed differently than the Senju but had the same ancestor.

 

[saratobi sasuke]

VERBAL DEFINITION

LINEAGE:
A. Direct descent from a particular ancestor; ancestry, Derivation.
-Zetsu: Nagato is from the Senju lineage
B. The descendants of a common ancestor considered to be the founder of the line.
-quote: Not the original bloodline either, get the idea? Whether the SO6P was mistresses to make him a 3rd son out of the blue which represents the Uzamaki clan, which is very unlikely theory if you ask me.

Your diagram is very overrated, your just trying look smart infront of anyone in this site. Zestu said it himself Uzamaki is under the LINEAGE OF THE SENJU CLAN meaning the Uzamaki bloodline is just a branch of the head which is the Senju. For christ sake a simple verbal explanation of Zetsu and you literally disarray from the original content and meaning of the phase he said to Obito. Some retard thread this days are a bit annoying, i just cant take it.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

^^ Yeah Kakashi mentioned this early in the series. The Hyuuga are descendants of the SO6P as well. They were probably elitists just like the Uchiha and inbred to keep the bloodline pure .. so their dojutsu developed differently from the Uchiha just like the Uzumaki developed differently than the Senju but had the same ancestor.

This is exactly what my theory proposes except that the uzumaki are the original clan and the elder and younger son garnered the yin and yang nature of his chakra respectively and made it into their own.While the third branch on the diagram is the continued uzumaki clan with the original characteristics of the formentioned chakra

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

VERBAL DEFINITION

LINEAGE:
A. Direct descent from a particular ancestor; ancestry, Derivation.
-Zetsu: Nagato is from the Senju lineage
B. The descendants of a common ancestor considered to be the founder of the line.
-quote: Not the original bloodline either, get the idea? Whether the SO6P was mistresses to make him a 3rd son out of the blue which represents the Uzamaki clan, which is very unlikely theory if you ask me.

Your diagram is very overrated, your just trying look smart infront of anyone in this site. Zestu said it himself Uzamaki is under the LINEAGE OF THE SENJU CLAN meaning the Uzamaki bloodline is just a branch of the head which is the Senju. For christ sake a simple verbal explanation of Zetsu and you literally disarray from the original content and meaning of the phase he said to Obito. Some retard thread this days are a bit annoying, i just cant take it.

This post of yours is all guided the by presumption that i implied a third son ? well your mistaken i never said anything like that the diagram is very simple if you feel intimidated by that its your fault for being as ****ing stupid as you are dont make that my problem go read the thread over again or leave the thread before your stupid spreads like a bad plague

 

[Sharinnigan]

I like this theory and it actually makes a lot of sense, so the sage of six paths was an uzumakii! Now I see why kurama said " that's the sage of six paths" when naruto obtained his chakra! It all makes senseeeee...rep

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I like this theory and it actually makes a lot of sense, so the sage of six paths was an uzumakii! Now I see why kurama said " that's the sage of six paths" when naruto obtained his chakra! It all makes senseeeee...rep

thanks im glad someone seems to understand the disambiguation of the term lineage correctly lol

 

[alinba]

This post of yours is all guided the by presumption that i implied a third son ? well your mistaken i never said anything like that the diagram is very simple if you feel intimidated by that its your fault for being as ****ing stupid as you are dont make that my problem go read the thread over again or leave the thread before your stupid spreads like a bad plague

Hehe, eventho i don't agree with your theory for quite good reasons, but this post is Epic!
Rep. for making me laugh.

 

[busylittlebee]

Disagree, its been hinted and somewhat comfirmed senju are the real descendants.

you're right senju and uciha is the real descendants of "OS and YS of the So6P" but what DeadManWonderLand trying to said is that if the senju (YS) blood is A and Uciha (OS) Blood is B tha the uzumaki blood is AB (probably the same as S06P)...
OS=Older Son of So6P
YS=Younger Son of So6P

I have to disagree as well, Lineage is a lineal descent ( ex. Uzumaki ) from an ancestor ( ex. Senju ).
Meaning the true descendants of the SO6P is Uchiha and Senju, I believe the manga already proved that.​

line age simply mean is "from The Same Line" as the tree diagram above

Here's proof that Uchiha and Senju are descendants of the older and younger sons, so it's only logical that the Uzumaki are descendants of the Senju

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duh

senju>uzimaki

this is 12'YO troll...