The uzumaki will be confirmed to be the original blood line

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to say senju and uchiha were the strongest clans. But Bloodline had nothing do to about strength, but maybe on abilities, which is unique to each bloodline, that cannot be copy,etc.

^ this + rep you must of read the post above you thanks for discerning the difference in raw strength and skill unlike the guy above you even though he has no basis for what he said to begin with
 

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Man your in denial it been hinted on numerous occasions that the senju and uchiha are the main relatives of so6p, plus if this was true when obito was talking to sasuke about the past of the uchiha he mention the two strongest clans which were the uchiha and senj, so if the uzumaki are the main relatives of the so6p instead of the senju they should be stronger than them.
Im gonna ignore the first part of this post since you clearly did not read what i posted on the page before this that wraps up what i said on the first page in the simplest of terms and second your last statement reads as if you already know which is the stronger clan and since you have nothing to back this claim it falls flat.May i remind you raw strength and skill are different.
 

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isnt tsunade as much uzimaki as a senju grandaughter of first an mito

No, She considered a Senju, because the uzumaki are basically Senju,

great theroy the uzumaki could beat the senju anytime with their sealing jutsus

Is that why Senju were the superior clan?

Im gonna ignore the first part of this post since you clearly did not read what i posted on the page before this that wraps up what i said on the first page in the simplest of terms and second your last statement reads as if you already know which is the stronger clan and since you have nothing to back this claim it falls flat.May i remind you raw strength and skill are different.

Uzumaki and Senju are Distant relatives, ONLY TO THE ****ING SENJU not the damn uchiha.... Meaning a senju was either married or etc to the clan or something. But they are basically a Branch of the Senju, They fall under the Senju period.

Only thing Uzumakis have is the Senju ability to have a big life/will force with big chakra. Period.

Senju> uzumaki. Senju are the superior clan.
 

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No, She considered a Senju, because the uzumaki are basically Senju,



Is that why Senju were the superior clan?



Uzumaki and Senju are Distant relatives, ONLY TO THE ****ING SENJU not the damn uchiha.... Meaning a senju was either married or etc to the clan or something. But they are basically a Branch of the Senju, They fall under the Senju period.

Only thing Uzumakis have is the Senju ability to have a big life/will force with big chakra. Period.

Senju> uzumaki. Senju are the superior clan.

uzumaki(sage) takes in the juubi and at that point they become one being.The sage then has two sons one gets his yin nature the other gets yang nature the power of the sage is then split between them with the uchiha taking on characteristics of the bijuu while the senju ancestor takes on characteristics of the sage himself which is why the senju and uzumaki seem to share a deeper connection :)

but if i were to break it down into specifics it would go like this

the uchiha ancestor manifest the spiritual chakra into his eyes the yin nature while taking on juubi traits while the senju ancestor take on the life force (yang nature ) and traits of the uzumaki out of the three traits the senju took two with the uzumaki retaining the longevity.
 

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was there an episode about the relationship between the senju and uzumaki? as far as i know, uzumaki did not come from senju, otherwise, senju would not need the uzumaki to contain the fox because of their extreme stamina and long life span plus they know a lot of seals.
 

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I could definitely see this being the case. In-fact in a post a read where the poster claims to know the ending of the manga he/she said the same thing so we'll see what happens.
 

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interesting article....u dnt see these every day *****
 

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ok if nagato is descendent of senju and madara is uchiha that make it complete it mean nagato got both the dna that is what make him to able to use the rinnegan
 

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The uzumaki clan is just like a sibling clan to the senju, like the younger son of the rikudou sennin had 2 children, one of them are the ancestor of the uzumaki and the other ancestor of the senju clan. The uzumaki clan have the trademark red hair of their clan yet the senju don't have any distinguishable qualities to be recognised by, which is unfortunate that they probably aren't an organized clan anymore and are probably disbanded or have divided into other clans.
 

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was there an episode about the relationship between the senju and uzumaki? as far as i know, uzumaki did not come from senju, otherwise, senju would not need the uzumaki to contain the fox because of their extreme stamina and long life span plus they know a lot of seals.

exactly + rep
 

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The uzumaki clan is just like a sibling clan to the senju, like the younger son of the rikudou sennin had 2 children, one of them are the ancestor of the uzumaki and the other ancestor of the senju clan. The uzumaki clan have the trademark red hair of their clan yet the senju don't have any distinguishable qualities to be recognised by, which is unfortunate that they probably aren't an organized clan anymore and are probably disbanded or have divided into other clans.

The uzumaki(sage) takes in the juubi and at that point they become one being.The sage then has two sons one gets his yin nature the other gets yang nature the power of the sage is then split between them with the uchiha taking on characteristics of the bijuu while the senju ancestor takes on characteristics of the sage himself which is why the senju and uzumaki seem to share a deeper connection

but if i were to break it down into specifics it would go like this

the uchiha ancestor manifest the spiritual chakra into his eyes the yin nature while taking on juubi traits while the senju ancestor take on the life force (yang nature ) and traits of the uzumaki out of the three traits the senju took two with the uzumaki retaining the longevity.
 

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makes since but what about hyugas o_O

the hyuuga have nothing to do with the topic i am discussing.The one page kakashi discussed the origins of the hyuuga were never confirmed he said "some believe the sharingan derived from the byakugan" key words to look out for were "some" and "believe" which brings to light that not all people agree with this origin story and the fact he said believe means its not a fact.Add that up with the fact kishi never brings it up again at any point in the story you can come to the conclusion the hyuuga have nothing to do with the main lineage of the sage.It was just some small talk thrown in there during the early days of the manga that hold no relevancy to the story at hand
 

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its never been directly stated that the senju all inbred. the seju could be descendents of the sage who retained their surnames while mingling with other clans. the uzumaki on the other hand, are likely to also be senju's who bred outside of their clan and did not retain their surnames- much like how women normally take on the surnames of their husbands. in this way, uzumaki's could be just as "senju" as the senju's themselves.
 

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i always thought that the hyuga clan is the oldest clan/ they formed this clan right around the SO6P era.... if you look at he hyuga they don't use elemental ninjutsu that we are used to seeing they use gentlefist style like all the time. what if sage of six paths wife which you need a woman to have kids its not like the sage got pregnant and had two kids.... his wife was a hyuga....farfetched i know but hey you never know.
 

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Awesome theory and great read bro nicely done
 

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