The Uchihas were peaceful.

[peaceful]

Not sure why I didn't think of this before.
If the Uchihas wanted to plan to take over Konoha again, why did NONE of them attempt to kill their best friends and gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, that would surely help them achieve this?

Why didn't they go back to the way they used to be, obtaining The Mangekyou, then obtaining the EMS?

As far as we know, the only person with the Mangekyou Sharingan at the time of the Massacre was Itachi.

The fact that they kept the Mangekyou Sharingan a secret is another piece of proof.

The fact that Fugaku told Sasuke to NOT FOLLOW IN HIS BROTHERS FOOTSTEPS, might be another piece of proof.

The Uchihas obviously wanted to stray away from relentless Killings of precious persons, and wanted to be peaceful.

This proves, that Uchiha Madara is lying to Sasuke about the Uchihas planning a takeover.

It proves that Madara slayed the Clan and kept Sasuke alive, making him believe it was Itachi and Konoha who killed the clan. So that Sasuke would be his tool later.

Sasuke has the same sinister Chakra as Madara.

HERE IS THE KICKER.

If Sasuke had the potential to UNLOCK The Mangekyou Sharingan and Eventually Control the Kyuubi..... WHY WOULD ITACHI KEEP HIM ALIVE and nobody else? He would eventually be the RISK to Konoha and the World... Not innocent Men women and Children of Uchihas.

If it was Itachis goal to rid the world of Uchihas who would use the Kyuubi to destroy innocent people, then all he should of done was went after Uchiha Madara and Uchiha Sasuke, since those two are so far the only ones with the potential or ability to control the Kyuubi and be a major danger to the entire Shinobi world.

The killing of the clan didn't protect SHIT from Uchiha Danger. Because the TWO existing Uchihas that could really **** up Konoha, are Uchiha Madara, and eventually Sasuke. Makes no sense that Itachi would keep Sasuke alive if he had this potential. If what Madara says is true, and that Itachi did want to protect Konoha and the Entire world from the dangers of the Uchihas, then his targets should of been Madara and Sasuke.

It goes to show that all the Uchihas were killed by Madara, and that Madara kept Sasuke alive to be his tool for the future.

You people should be forever Grateful at the Insight and ability of Peaceful(me for the slow ones), to pick apart eventual happenings.

You're welcome.

 

[RokuNR]

*sigh* Back to the Uchiha's...I don't agree with this theory...but, nice try anyway. =/

 

[fmcande]

nice..... this shows that tobi story about the clan and itachi has some lies to it
he is just telling sasuke some bull shi$# to control him. this is my thread about the topic

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[peaceful]

Do us all a favour.....

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we don't want to here you brag

I love to teach kids how to be good upstanding citizens

*sigh* Back to the Uchiha's...I don't agree with this theory...but, nice try anyway. =/

-sigh- I dont understand how you disagree with facts....

 

[Realtwisted]

*sigh* Back to the Uchiha's...I don't agree with this theory...but, nice try anyway. =/

I don't really agree with this theory, but their is no prove that Uchiha wanted to take controll of Konoha either.

 

[Vergil..]

again this guy lol
well uchiha dont try to get magenkyu because that would be self massacre since they didnt go well with the village because they weree discrimanated by the village this is why they were closed on a coner of the village.

and why would they want itachi as a spy on the village

 

[fmcande]

but is true taking the eyes or killing another uchiha was forbidden by the clan it self

 

[zenron]

Not sure why I didn't think of this before. If the Uchihas wanted to plan to take over Konoha again, why did NONE of them attempt to kill their best friends and gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, that would surely help them achieve this?

Why didn't they go back to the way they used to be, obtaining The Mangekyou, then obtaining the EMS?

As far as we know, the only person with the Mangekyou Sharingan at the time of the Massacre was Itachi.

The fact that they kept the Mangekyou Sharingan a secret is another piece of proof.

The fact that Fugaku told Sasuke to NOT FOLLOW IN HIS BROTHERS FOOTSTEPS, might be another piece of proof.

The Uchihas obviously wanted to stray away from relentless Killings of precious persons, and wanted to be peaceful.

This proves, that Uchiha Madara is lying to Sasuke about the Uchihas planning a takeover.

Just because the Uchiha clan didn't want to kill there friends and family for power, doesn't mean that they wouldn't want to cripple the force which had been oppressing them for all those years, the rest of the village. Can you really call somebody peaceful just because they don't want to kill there own family. We can assume they didn't want to do that, but we have no reason to believe that the information tobi gave sasuke is incorrect.

It proves that Madara slayed the Clan and kept Sasuke alive, making him believe it was Itachi and Konoha who killed the clan. So that Sasuke would be his tool later.

Sasuke has the same sinister Chakra as Madara.

HERE IS THE KICKER.

If Sasuke had the potential to UNLOCK The Mangekyou Sharingan and Eventually Control the Kyuubi..... WHY WOULD ITACHI KEEP HIM ALIVE and nobody else? He would eventually be the RISK to Konoha and the World... Not innocent Men women and Children of Uchihas.

If it was Itachis goal to rid the world of Uchihas who would use the Kyuubi to destroy innocent people, then all he should of done was went after Uchiha Madara and Uchiha Sasuke, since those two are so far the only ones with the potential or ability to control the Kyuubi and be a major danger to the entire Shinobi world.

We don't know that he kept sasuke alive for the reasons listed above. For all we know, Itachi could have just not been able to kill his own little brother. I don't particularly believe that he killed his own parents either. I would say that it was more likely to have been tobi who had done it.

The killing of the clan didn't protect SHIT from Uchiha Danger. Because the TWO existing Uchihas that could really **** up Konoha, are Uchiha Madara, and eventually Sasuke. Makes no sense that Itachi would keep Sasuke alive if he had this potential. If what Madara says is true, and that Itachi did want to protect Konoha and the Entire world from the dangers of the Uchihas, then his targets should of been Madara and Sasuke.

Itachi could have never known that sasuke would join forces with tobi. He didn't want sasuke to even go near tobi.

 

[peaceful]

again this guy lol
well uchiha dont try to get magenkyu because that would be self massacre since they didnt go well with the village because they weree discrimanated by the village this is why they were closed on a coner of the village.

and why would they want itachi as a spy on the village

Nope. They were not "discriminated" by the village. Getting Mangekuy would be a half slaughter. Attacking without mangekuy would be a total 100% slaughter.

 

[RokuNR]

I don't really agree with this theory, but their is no prove that Uchiha wanted to take controll of Konoha either.

That's true =/

 

[zenron]

Nope. They were not "discriminated" by the village. Getting Mangekuy would be a half slaughter. Attacking without mangekuy would be a total 100% slaughter.

You can't just say "They were not discriminated" as if it is a fact... we really don't know.

 

[fmcande]

again this guy lol
well uchiha dont try to get magenkyu because that would be self massacre since they didnt go well with the village because they weree discrimanated by the village this is why they were closed on a coner of the village.

and why would they want itachi as a spy on the village

this are fact's told by madara uchiha 'hit the bad guy' is like aizan telling ichigo that soul society is evil cuz is violating the rights of the hollows .

 

[peaceful]

]Just because the Uchiha clan didn't want to kill there friends and family for power, doesn't mean that they wouldn't want to cripple the force which had been oppressing them for all those years, the rest of the village. Can you really call somebody peaceful just because they don't want to kill there own family. We can assume they didn't want to do that, but we have no reason to believe that the information tobi gave sasuke is incorrect.

Killing their family would ensure 100% victory against the village, something they supposedly "wanted". Not doing something like this and even advising against such action means that Madara is a liar.

We don't know that he kept sasuke alive for the reasons listed above. For all we know, Itachi could have just not been able to kill his own little brother. I don't particularly believe that he killed his own parents either. I would say that it was more likely to have been tobi who had done it.

It is a a fact he killed his parents until proven otherwise. So, if Itachi really wanted to ensure Konohas safety and even worlds safety he had to kill Madara and or at least Sasuke.

Itachi could have never known that sasuke would join forces with tobi. He didn't want sasuke to even go near tobi

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That is besides the point. Itachi knew the second he died that Sasuke was evil. So, if we by your logic we can easily conclude that Sasuke would never know the truth about Itachi which results to him being still evil.

 

[Vergil..]

Nope. They were not "discriminated" by the village. Getting Mangekuy would be a half slaughter. Attacking without mangekuy would be a total 100% slaughter.

yes exactly that's why they didnt want to get magenkyu because they would lose man power.
well they were discriminated by senju mainly the 2nd hokage u didnt trust them.
And about the massacre well that i dont now but whats certain is that itachi took part of it by what sasuke remebers of it and Tobi/Madara helped out.

 

[peaceful]

yes exactly that's why they didnt want to get magenkyu because they would lose man power.
well they were discriminated by senju mainly the 2nd hokage u didnt trust them.
And about the massacre well that i dont now but whats certain is that itachi took part of it by what sasuke remebers of it and Tobi/Madara helped out.

You totally missed my point... I prove this argument wrong in the post you have quoted.

 

[zenron]

Killing their family would ensure 100% victory against the village, something they supposedly "wanted". Not doing something like this and even advising against such action means that Madara is a liar.

What is the point of a victory for the Uchiha if there is nobody around to share it with once the battle has ended. With the way the Uchiha speak, you can tell they have a severe superiority complex over everybody. They probably didn't think they would even need to use MS.

It is a a fact he killed his parents until proven otherwise. So, if Itachi really wanted to ensure Konohas safety and even worlds safety he had to kill Madara and or at least Sasuke.

At the time of the killings, we don't know if itachi knew how evil Madara was. At the time, Itachi would have no reason to kill the person who has been helping him all along. Even if he did know the true Madara, he wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Itachi isn't strong enough to defeat Madara.

 

[peaceful]

What is the point of a victory for the Uchiha if there is nobody around to share it with once the battle has ended. With the way the Uchiha speak, you can tell they have a severe superiority complex over everybody. They probably didn't think they would even need to use MS.

If 50 of them had mangekuy and went against the village 1 or 2 of them AT MOST would die.

At the time of the killings, we don't know if itachi knew how evil Madara was. At the time, Itachi would have no reason to kill the person who has been helping him all along. Even if he did know the true Madara, he wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Itachi isn't strong enough to defeat Madara.

He knew how evil he was. Even if he couldnt kill Madara he could have tried instead of massacring the Uchihas and he should have killed Sasuke.

 

[fmcande]

how can u tell me that the leaf village would be so stupid to order the killing one of their stronger clan .. the uchiha clan was not a menace for the village they were military power just like naruto and the tail beast are to the villages
this is a lie that tobi is using in order to control sasuke . like he control pein and itachi

 

[peaceful]

how can u tell me that the leaf village would be so stupid to order the killing one of their stronger clan .. the uchiha clan was not a menace for the village they were military power just like naruto and the tail beast are to the villages
this is a lie that tobi is using in order to control sasuke . like he control pein and itachi

Exactly. But wait... Is it a lie of Tobi or Itachi? hmm...

 

[zenron]

If 50 of them had mangekuy and went against the village 1 or 2 of them AT MOST would die.

If 50 of them had MS, then 50 people would already be dead. That isn't a small loss.

He knew how evil he was. Even if he couldnt kill Madara he could have tried instead of massacring the Uchihas and he should have killed Sasuke.

I don't think Itachi is stupid. I think it is more like him to try an indirect method of bringing Madara down. By forcing sasuke to become stronger so maybe eventually, he could kill madara for him. he doesn't seem the type of person to go head long into a battle he knows he can't win.