The Uchiha with Rinnegan are no longer Uchiha

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Umm I'm pretty sure transplanting someone else's eyes is an external mod, unless you meant external from the clan, in which case I'll shut up lol
 

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We are not taking this in real life Riker.
The argument still stands.

By manga standards if you chop senju skins and stuff them in you. You suddenly get Senju strength. The only reason Madara got Rinnegan is because he added to himself Senju.

So what? It doesn't change that they're still Uchiha by any means. What, is Sasuke now a part of Juugo's clan because his chest is made of Juugo's flesh?
No Uchiha would ever obtain Rinnegan without an external modification. Whilist they don't need external modification to receive 1 tomoe, 2 tomoe, 3 tomoe, mangekyo, ems...
You can argue that Rinnegan isn't an ability of the Uchiha Clan, sure, but that doesn't mean the person is no longer an Uchiha.
 

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The KKG Rinnegan is exclusive to the Uchiha, and the eyes are intrinsically connected via Kaguya - hence how they can be integrated into one eye and be switched.

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In a way of speaking, the KKG Rinnegan is a doujutsu only witnessed in the Uchiha; an Uchiha doujutsu. Besides, your claim fails in that all witnessed Uchiha with Rinnegan retained not only the Sharingan, but also the use of its powers.

Everybody knows this. She is saying that its just retarded to switch the whole fighting style of th Uchihas with a power like Rinnegan. The two powers are so unrelated and it seemed half ass to link them all together.

If the powers had more in common it would be more believable or at least easier to digest storywise.

I only semi agree with this.
 

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Umm I'm pretty sure transplanting someone else's eyes is an external mod, unless you meant external from the clan, in which case I'll shut up lol

Well I don't want you to shut up because of this, because we are not arguing. You have your justice, I might or might not have mine. Apparently I don't have mine since I failed at making myself easily understood :x3:

Yes, I'm talking about external from the clan.
 

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Everybody knows this. She is saying that its just retarded to switch the whole fighting style of th Uchihas with a power like Rinnegan. The two powers are so unrelated and it seemed half ass to link them all together.

If the powers had more in common it would be more believable or at least easier to digest storywise.

I only semi agree with this.

Read this people. This is 50% of what I'm trying to say. The rest I failed to express correctly. :x3:
 

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I think i get what you're saying. Since having the rinnegan the uchiha are no longer 100% pure uchiha because of the different genetics & body motifications required to awaken rinnegan.

So Rinnegan is basically borrowed power like EMS? What else is new.

Rinnegan was never an Uchiha Doujutsu. Its an Otsutsuki doujutsu. However, Maybe Sasuke will change that, or not (Sarada) lol
 

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Well I don't want you to shut up because of this, because we are not arguing. You have your justice, I might or might not have mine. Apparently I don't have mine since I failed at making myself easily understood :x3:

Yes, I'm talking about external from the clan.

Lol word, my misunderstanding then. The ssj2 gohan dude puts it pretty well, the general uchiha style and the rinnegan style were introduced to by pain are completely different and don't compliment each other at all, as I can't see an uchiha(save for obito) use the 6 paths like pain. And even when obito used the jins as th 6 paths they didn't seem to have the specific paths for each(I could be wrong) so I'd have to agree mostly, I still don't think it warrants a name change though, if Sakura is an uchiha now then I guess anything is possible
 

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I think i get what you're saying. Since having the rinnegan the uchiha are no longer 100% pure uchiha because of the different genetics & body motifications required to awaken rinnegan.

Everybody knows this. She is saying that its just retarded to switch the whole fighting style of th Uchihas with a power like Rinnegan. The two powers are so unrelated and it seemed half ass to link them all together.

If the powers had more in common it would be more believable or at least easier to digest storywise.

I only semi agree with this.

The ssj2 gohan dude puts it pretty well, the general uchiha style and the rinnegan style were introduced to by pain are completely different and don't compliment each other at all, as I can't see an uchiha(save for obito) use the 6 paths like pain. And even when obito used the jins as th 6 paths they didn't seem to have the specific paths for each(I could be wrong) so I'd have to agree mostly, I still don't think it warrants a name change though, if Sakura is an uchiha now then I guess anything is possible


Ok, read this. All these comments hold 100% of the stuff I tried to express.

All you need to read are these 3 comments. Sorry for my bad use of words in this thread.
 

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So basically Rinnegan changes the whole scope of what an actual Uchiha is so you feel as if they are not Uchiha anymore?

Would you say they are beyond the Uchiha in your opinion? Or below?(Not powerwise which do you prefer)
 

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Ok, read this. All these comments hold 100% of the stuff I tried to express.

All you need to read are these 3 comments. Sorry for my bad use of words in this thread.

Oh okay I will read
 

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Everybody knows this. She is saying that its just retarded to switch the whole fighting style of th Uchihas with a power like Rinnegan. The two powers are so unrelated and it seemed half ass to link them all together.

If the powers had more in common it would be more believable or at least easier to digest storywise.

I only semi agree with this.


You're missing the point.

It's not switching a fighting style, if it was part of their potential in the first place. In other words, it's an extension of their fighting style.
 

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Indra and Ashura's chakra is what awakens the Rinnegan.

Uchiha is just a clan name not the name of that power. Obito is still an Uchiha. He's just an Uchiha with the sharingan and Wood style KKG. Same goes for Madara. He's an Uchiha with the Sharingan, Mokuton, and the Rinnegan. His clan name is Uchiha therefore he's an Uchiha.

Indra only wields the Sharingans power but he's not an Uchiha. Simply because his clan name is Ootsutsuki.


Uchiha, Senju, Ootsutsuki, etc. are just the name of the clans they were born to.
 

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So Rinnegan is basically borrowed power like EMS? What else is new.

Rinnegan was never an Uchiha Doujutsu. Its an Otsutsuki doujutsu. However, Maybe Sasuke will change that, or not (Sarada) lol

How is that saying rinnegan is a borrowed power? Rinnegan just doesnt fall in their hands.
 

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what kind of logic is this. so they are no longer uchiha because a power they have didnt come from them naturally? you say getting the rinnegan changed their fighting style to non-uchiha which is not true. pretty sure none of them lost their sharingan and they still made use of it even though they had the rinnegan. they are still uchiha
 
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