The Uchiha Transformation

[Yahcob13]

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The sharingan has devolved since it bloomed 1000 years ago and found its first vessel in Kaguya Otsutsuki and then the Sage of Six Paths. I want to point out that we were introduced to the sharingan from the perspective of a clan on the brink of extinction. While they showed no lack in fighting ability they only managed to display a small percentage of their potential. This is because Hagoromo split the inheritance in two parts. First he divided the body and the chakra of the ten tails and then he split the eyes and body of the vessel. The eyes and body represents the Senju and Uchiha clans. This was a mistake that has caused the sharingan and senjutsu to devolve because these powers are meant to be one. There have been some who have went against the heavens and reunited this power and became something a normal human being could not achieve.

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The original power that began with the chakra fruit is the sharingan and nature chakra. Madera reestablished the mind and body connection of Juubi allowing it to evolve once again.

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Right after Madera made the connection Sasuke made a leap and awakens a rinnegan with tomoe. Now we see it evolving back towards it's original form. This was a step in the right direction and it shows that the power is aggressively trying to reunite its two halves. Technically Sasuke did posses both halves when he captured the tailed beasts.

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So he qualifies as someone who is able to pass it on. Now as destiny carves it's path we have Sarada Uchiha the first pure vessel since Hagoromo.

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The reunion of the eyes and body the original power now grows within her. I think that most followers of the manga realize this and are interested in seeing her development. The legacy of power has found its self in this young flower. She does show signs of potential but when the power begins to bloom the vessel will undergo a transformation which allows for the use of its power. This is the various rikudo modes which are loosely based on Hagoromo because he was the last pure vessel born with the eyes and body of the original. Now Sarada holds that power and I am expecting an evolution of the last evolution which was the six paths power. I'm not saying she will surpass Hagoromo because he was also a 10 jin but she will master the six paths power.
The six paths power is the evolution of the original power available only to those who posses the eyes and body of the original power. Its greater than nature chakra. Its the intelligent energy that molds the cycle of life and death. When I refer to the original power I mean the power of the chakra fruit. The first vessel was Kaguya but she was not a pure vessel. This is why she lost her mind. The first pure vessel was Hagoromo he was born with the original power. Which is why he unlocked a rinnegan on his own. The only person ever to do it. If you can't unlock a rinnegan without outside influence you are not a true vessel. Naruto was not a true vessel. Madera was not a true vessel. Kaguya was not a true vessel. Sarada Uchiha is the heir to the six paths power. The transformation begins when she learns to integrate these two powers.

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[wanderingcactus]

Nice read but there are many assumptions in it.

One: Sasuke never awakens his Rinnegan. It is given to him by Hagoromo.
Two: Having tomoed Rinnegan like the Rinnegan does not make it any better. It simply means his Rinnegan has a tomoed Sharingan.

This means that his Rinnegan is not up to Hagoromo standards. As stated by Obito when he gained 6 Paths Sage Mode, he could not use his Mangekyu anymore.

Three: Hagomoro never had both body and eyes.
Four: Hagomoro and Hamura may be a full blood alien now that we know of the continued existence of Isshiki.
Five: Hamura has the body
Six: Sasuke never attained Sage mode. Naruto received that and Sasuke received the Rinnegan.

All of this means that Sarada is not as great as you make her out to be.

For one, if we truly consider her to not be an Uzumaki, this makes her into a half-breed. Another, Sasuke is not Hagoromo/Hamura level, nor is Naruto. They are just slightly above Indra and Asura. Their So6P buff are gone now because they sealed Kaguya (unknown whether they will regain them should she be released).

So let us measure where exactly Naruto and Sasuke are:

Base Eternal Mangekyu Sasuke would be 50%. Let's call this Indra level.
Getting the Yin Seal would get him a "pseudo" Rinnegan. (Since in order to have a Rinnegan, you must also have the Sage of 6 Paths Mode). Naruto has that. So let us call this 75% or 80%.
Without the seal, Sasuke stopped exhibiting whatever Paths Mode he has, let us call it 3 Paths. This would drop him to 70% Hagoromo.

Overall, Sasuke as of the moment is above Indra but still not Hagoromo level. In fact, far from it. He would be closer to Indra than Hagoromo despite the Rinnegan. All of this because of Naruto.

Sasuke does neither have the chakra (bijuu) nor the vessel (gedo mazou). Naruto has the bijuus and the vessel is sealed in the chibaku tensei (Planetary Devastation) in another world.

This is 70% Hagoromo is unknown whether it can be passed via bloodline as well. Assuming it can, because of the nature of Sakura, this power is even more diluted.

Now, we can safely say that Sarada can gain Indra level (EMS) due to the artwork of Kishi with her non-tomoed Sharingan.

But she would not surpass her father. We would not even be sure if Sasuke's Rinnegan can be passed on or will it turn into a normal Sharingan.

 

[Yahcob13]

The chakra tree or god tree is a divine power that is attempting actualize itself into a human form. Its ability to evolve enroute to its own destiny is displayed in plain sight. It literally grew legs and arms. This was after it found its first vessel in Kaguya. It continued to evolve and the first opportunity it had to attain a more perfect form was manifested in Hagoromo. He was the first to be born with a sharingan, and easily mastered senjutsu. Both of those traits are of his mother's relationship with the chakra tree. The sign of him being a true vessel is his rinnegan and being able to produce it on his own. The ten tails was ready to evolve once again and it did. The next step in its evolution was the six paths chakra. Note that Hagoromo did not pass on ten tails chakra. The six paths chakra was produced by Hagoromo as a result of the power he was born with. But its evolution stopped there and had to wait until Sasuke and Naruto came along. For a short period they were vessels of the six paths power and were meant to repair the rift that caused the power to cease its evolution. Madera and Hashirama had a role in that also and now that the rift has been fixed the power can continue to evolve. In order for it to continue its evolution it needs a vessel similar to Hagoromo. It just so happens that there is only one character that can fill that role. Sarada Uchiha... Based on the power Sasuke wielded at his peak he is likely to have passed on the six paths yin and the ten tails body. This makes her at least a slightly better vessel than Hagoromo was. I named this thread the Uchiha Transformation because I feel that Sarada has a Juubi transformation and the changes her clan has experienced en route to reclaiming it's power.

 

[Yahcob13]

Boruto is in an even more interesting position because he is likely to have had the six paths yang and the tailed beast chakra passed on to him basically six paths sage mode. Keep in mind that tailed beast chakra is also an evolution of ten tails Chakra. So Boruto should be well endowed with the physical aspect of the ten tails. But his yin type is Byakugan therefore he is a vessel like Kaguya but better.
In theory Boruto and Sarada combined are the new evolution of the ten tails. Sarada is the embodiment of the demonic statue and the six paths yin. Which basically means her body rivals the ten tails and her dojutsu should be slightly better than the ten tail's. That's because the six paths yin is an evolution of the rinnesharingan. Its likely that Hagoromo kept his sealed unless needed. I feel that Sarada's would be some sort of seal or mark also and when unleashed allows for a physical transformation.
On the other hand Boruto's six paths sage mode empowers his dojutsu. Its almost counterintuitive for them to be designed this way but it allows the weaknesses of the previous generation to be their strength without sacrificing strength in other areas.

 

[Silenqe]

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The sharingan has devolved since it bloomed 1000 years ago and found its first vessel in Kaguya Otsutsuki and then the Sage of Six Paths. I want to point out that we were introduced to the sharingan from the perspective of a clan on the brink of extinction. While they showed no lack in fighting ability they only managed to display a small percentage of their potential. This is because Hagoromo split the inheritance in two parts. First he divided the body and the chakra of the ten tails and then he split the eyes and body of the vessel. The eyes and body represents the Senju and Uchiha clans. This was a mistake that has caused the sharingan and senjutsu to devolve because these powers are meant to be one. There have been some who have went against the heavens and reunited this power and became something a normal human being could not achieve.

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The original power that began with the chakra fruit is the sharingan and nature chakra. Madera reestablished the mind and body connection of Juubi allowing it to evolve once again.

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Right after Madera made the connection Sasuke made a leap and awakens a rinnegan with tomoe. Now we see it evolving back towards it's original form. This was a step in the right direction and it shows that the power is aggressively trying to reunite its two halves. Technically Sasuke did posses both halves when he captured the tailed beasts.

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So he qualifies as someone who is able to pass it on. Now as destiny carves it's path we have Sarada Uchiha the first pure vessel since Hagoromo.

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The reunion of the eyes and body the original power now grows within her. I think that most followers of the manga realize this and are interested in seeing her development. The legacy of power has found its self in this young flower. She does show signs of potential but when the power begins to bloom the vessel will undergo a transformation which allows for the use of its power. This is the various rikudo modes which are loosely based on Hagoromo because he was the last pure vessel born with the eyes and body of the original. Now Sarada holds that power and I am expecting an evolution of the last evolution which was the six paths power. I'm not saying she will surpass Hagoromo because he was also a 10 jin but she will master the six paths power.
The six paths power is the evolution of the original power available only to those who posses the eyes and body of the original power. Its greater than nature chakra. Its the intelligent energy that molds the cycle of life and death. When I refer to the original power I mean the power of the chakra fruit. The first vessel was Kaguya but she was not a pure vessel. This is why she lost her mind. The first pure vessel was Hagoromo he was born with the original power. Which is why he unlocked a rinnegan on his own. The only person ever to do it. If you can't unlock a rinnegan without outside influence you are not a true vessel. Naruto was not a true vessel. Madera was not a true vessel. Kaguya was not a true vessel. Sarada Uchiha is the heir to the six paths power. The transformation begins when she learns to integrate these two powers.

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Kaguya never had the Sharingan, so your wrong in the first sentence of the thread. When Hamura and Hagoromo defeated Kaguya, they sealed Kaguya into the moon and Hagoromo split the Ten-Tails chakra into nine beings instead of one. The Ten-Tails is the fusion of Kaguya and the god tree, so no he did not split the eyes and body of the vessel, whatever that means. Indra's inheritance was the Uchiha clan and Ashura's was the Senju and Uzumaki clan. So the Uzumaki clan should also represent the body, at least by your logic I guess. It was not a mistake, not at all actually. If you think about it the Sharingan didn't devolve at all. The only time at devolved was when Hagoromo got kids, Indra wasn't able to obtain the Rinnegan, at least he didn't do it but there is no evidence to say that he can't. But he was able to obtain the Mangekyou Sharingan which we have seen a few people do. The reason why Indra wasn't able to obtain the Rinnegan was that to obtain it a person needed the DNA of both Indra and Ashura to get their DNA close to Hagoromo's DNA.

Nature Energy didn't come with the chakra fruit. Only the power of the Rinne Sharingan and the chakra for Otsutsukis to turn into the Ten-Tails.

Sasuke didn't awaken the Rinnegan, he got it from Hagoromo. The reason why it has three tomoe is that it is not fully Rinnegan. Sasuke did not possess both halves when he captured the tailed beasts. To obtain the Rinnegan you need to have the DNA of Indra and Ashura. Sasuke only got the chakra from the tailed beasts, nothing close to the DNA of Hagoromo. That means Sasuke does not qualify as being able to pass it on. The Rinnegan cannot be passed on by humans breeding, only Otsutsukis. Sarada is not even close to being a "pure vessel" at all.

Sarada doesn't have the DNA of Indra and Ashura, so no, she isn't just gonna get the powers out of nowhere. No one has thought of this except for you, most people are just excited to see her get the Mangekyou Sharingan and develop her Jutsu arsenal. Also, Sarada will probably not get the Rinnegan any time soon and she will not master the Six Paths powers, the only one who can and has done that is Hagoromo. It was his power in the first place after all.

This whole thread makes no absolute sense, at all. A lot of it is just nonsense.

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The chakra tree or god tree is a divine power that is attempting actualize itself into a human form. Its ability to evolve enroute to its own destiny is displayed in plain sight. It literally grew legs and arms. This was after it found its first vessel in Kaguya. It continued to evolve and the first opportunity it had to attain a more perfect form was manifested in Hagoromo. He was the first to be born with a sharingan, and easily mastered senjutsu. Both of those traits are of his mother's relationship with the chakra tree. The sign of him being a true vessel is his rinnegan and being able to produce it on his own. The ten tails was ready to evolve once again and it did. The next step in its evolution was the six paths chakra. Note that Hagoromo did not pass on ten tails chakra. The six paths chakra was produced by Hagoromo as a result of the power he was born with. But its evolution stopped there and had to wait until Sasuke and Naruto came along. For a short period they were vessels of the six paths power and were meant to repair the rift that caused the power to cease its evolution. Madera and Hashirama had a role in that also and now that the rift has been fixed the power can continue to evolve. In order for it to continue its evolution it needs a vessel similar to Hagoromo. It just so happens that there is only one character that can fill that role. Sarada Uchiha... Based on the power Sasuke wielded at his peak he is likely to have passed on the six paths yin and the ten tails body. This makes her at least a slightly better vessel than Hagoromo was. I named this thread the Uchiha Transformation because I feel that Sarada has a Juubi transformation and the changes her clan has experienced en route to reclaiming it's power.

It didn't grow arms and legs at all. It was Kaguya who fused with the god tree to make the original Ten-Tails. Then Hagoromo split the Ten-Tails chakra into nine different beings, also made of chakra. It didn't evolve at all? Don't know what you are talking about, to be honest with you. Hagoromo got his Six Paths chakra from being the Ten-Tails Jinchuriki, meaning he did get Six Paths powers from the Ten-Tails and he wasn't born with it. He later passed the Six Paths chakra onto his son Ashura and also Naruto and Sasuke later on. Sarada is nothing near Hagoromo and will never have powers even near what Hagoromo had. There also doesn't need to be a person to have the Six Path powers right now, but if someone gets it, it will probably be Sarada and Boruto together. Sasuke didn't get the "Ten-Tails body" either.

Sarada will never become the Jinchuriki of the Ten-Tails and nothing near that amount of power either.

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Boruto is in an even more interesting position because he is likely to have had the six paths yang and the tailed beast chakra passed on to him basically six paths sage mode. Keep in mind that tailed beast chakra is also an evolution of ten tails Chakra. So Boruto should be well endowed with the physical aspect of the ten tails. But his yin type is Byakugan therefore he is a vessel like Kaguya but better.
In theory Boruto and Sarada combined are the new evolution of the ten tails. Sarada is the embodiment of the demonic statue and the six paths yin. Which basically means her body rivals the ten tails and her dojutsu should be slightly better than the ten tail's. That's because the six paths yin is an evolution of the rinnesharingan. Its likely that Hagoromo kept his sealed unless needed. I feel that Sarada's would be some sort of seal or mark also and when unleashed allows for a physical transformation.
On the other hand Boruto's six paths sage mode empowers his dojutsu. Its almost counterintuitive for them to be designed this way but it allows the weaknesses of the previous generation to be their strength without sacrificing strength in other areas.

No, he does not. The tailed beast chakra is not an evolution of the Ten-Tails chakra, it is a part of it that got split into nine parts. No, he is not. Boruto doesn't have the Byakugan, Momoshiki does. The only time Boruto can use the Byakugan is when Momoshiki takes over and Boruto's Jougan transforms into a Byakugan and even if he had the Byakugan he wouldn't be near the power of Kaguya.

The rest of your post is just nonsense and doesn't make sense at all.

I told you to stop smoking, but it seems you are still continuing smoking a ton of weed per day.

 

[wanderingcactus]

The chakra tree or god tree is a divine power that is attempting actualize itself into a human form. Its ability to evolve enroute to its own destiny is displayed in plain sight. It literally grew legs and arms. This was after it found its first vessel in Kaguya.

Based on Boruto The Movie, we know what the God Trees are. They are simply chakra seeds that grew. These seeds are planted to become that world's biggest and possibly oldest tree on that planet. They basically act as a channeller of senjutsu chakra.

Much like the same principle of senjutsu (where a vessel channels in the surrounding energy to store it within themselves). This is the purpose of the God Trees. It does not evolve, it is not sentient, it is simply a plant.

The God Tree sucks up all the life and energy in that planet and they are then used as immortality pills or forced evolution fruit.
Kaguya used the God Tree for her own devices and turned it into an evolutionary fruit for her to absorb and consume.

This gave her the 3rd eye and became a completed being.
She had 2 children, which inherited her powers among them (we are not sure whether or not they took some of her power).
Hagoromo and Hamura separated Kaguya's new body and her stolen chakra.

This chakra is what later come to known as the Juubi and the vessel, Gedo Mazou.
The Juubi was then split furthermore into 9 other beings. These beings are the Tailed Beasts.
The Gedo Mazou has now become the moon.


Ever since the consumption of Earth, the chakra has been devolving. From Kaguya being a completed being, to her 2 children. To being split into chakra and vessel to becoming 9 different beasts and the moon.

Her children also had children which further diluted the planet's power.
Her Karma, Black Zetsu, is the only one trying to bring her back together in one piece.

However, due to many living creatures using up their own power and stealing others', she has competition and will never be fully complete unless she takes all of their lives.

The Infinite Tsukoyumi was one such plan to bring all of the scattered chakra into one place for her to consume once more.


For the new generation, like Boruto, certainly Boruto has the most chakra out of everyone.

His father has been once blessed by Hagoromo and his mother blessed by Hamura.
Mitsuki is a combination of Hasihrama and Toneri.
Sarada is the offspring of Sasuke, someone blessed by Hagoromo.

Out of all these 3, Sarada is the weakest because of the potency of chakra.
Her chakra is diluted between her father and a human.

While Mitsuki is a Senju and a moon RS.
Boruto's parents have the progenitor's blessings.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Kaguya never had the Sharingan, so your wrong in the first sentence of the thread.

Spoiler: Kaguya has Sharingan

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[Silenqe]

Spoiler: Kaguya has Sharingan

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That's the Rinne Sharingan. Not even close to a normal Sharingan. It's a step over the normal Rinnegan. So if you think the Sharingan is as strong as the Rinnegan then go ahead and call it the Sharingan. Jesus Christ.

 

[Yahcob13]

That's the Rinne Sharingan. Not even close to a normal Sharingan. It's a step over the normal Rinnegan. So if you think the Sharingan is as strong as the Rinnegan then go ahead and call it the Sharingan. Jesus Christ.

A EMS can be as good or better than a rinnegan in the right hands. Its just that most of the rinnegan users have also had sharingan so we dont really see how much influence the sharingan has. All of Sasuke's tech is sharingan tech. He rarely used a six path technique. The teleport is trash and has a cooldown. IKamui is betteri. Susanoo is overpowered and too good. Even Madera continued to rely on sharingan tech. The sharingan and rinnegan were originally one. We learned about them after they were split up and it gave the illusion that they were different dojutsu. From an objective viewpoint it looks as if the sharingan is just as good or better. What makes having a rinnegan so great if its not a rinne-sharingan

 

[Silenqe]

A EMS can be as good or better than a rinnegan in the right hands. Its just that most of the rinnegan users have also had sharingan so we dont really see how much influence the sharingan has. All of Sasuke's tech is sharingan tech. He rarely used a six path technique. The teleport is trash and has a cooldown. IKamui is betteri. Susanoo is overpowered and too good. Even Madera continued to rely on sharingan tech. The sharingan and rinnegan were originally one. We learned about them after they were split up and it gave the illusion that they were different dojutsu. From an objective viewpoint it looks as if the sharingan is just as good or better. What makes having a rinnegan so great if its not a rinne-sharingan

No. You make no sense in this reply. The Rinnegan is more superior then the Sharingan, that's facts. The Mangekyou Sharingan or the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan is not the Sharingan. They are stronger versions of it.

Show me a panel where it stats that the Rinne Sharingan was split into the Rinnegan and Sharingan.

I never said the Rinnegan was better than the Rinne Sharingan? So your question is irrelevant to this specific situation.

 

[salamander uchiha]

That's the Rinne Sharingan. Not even close to a normal Sharingan. It's a step over the normal Rinnegan. So if you think the Sharingan is as strong as the Rinnegan then go ahead and call it the Sharingan. Jesus Christ.

Learn to read bud, it's called Sharingan by Hogaromo, himself. Wanna try again or are you merely butthurt and in denial. While @Yahcob13 does have an overactive imagination he's not wrong. The Sharingan has 3 actual stages

Sharingan = Base stage
M Sharingan/EM Sharingan = upgraded form achieved via deep loss and taking eyes of sibling.
Rinne Sharingan =by adding Jyubi to the mix.

Each Is a different state of the Sharingan, you could call RS peak Sharingan. Anybody who knows basic grammar would know the adjective (Rinne) precedes the noun (Sharingan). At no time does it cease being a Sharingan or it's type.

Anyway Hogaromo says it's Sharingan time to accept the truth.

 

[Yahcob13]

And the truth will set you free

 

[Silenqe]

Learn to read bud, it's called Sharingan by Hogaromo, himself. Wanna try again or are you merely butthurt and in denial. While @Yahcob13 does have an overactive imagination he's not wrong. The Sharingan has 3 actual stages

Sharingan = Base stage
M Sharingan/EM Sharingan = upgraded form achieved via deep loss and taking eyes of sibling.
Rinne Sharingan =by adding Jyubi to the mix.

Each Is a different state of the Sharingan, you could call RS peak Sharingan. Anybody who knows basic grammar would know the adjective (Rinne) precedes the noun (Sharingan). At no time does it cease being a Sharingan or it's type.

Anyway Hogaromo says it's Sharingan time to accept the truth.

Are you an idiot? Hagaromo said she had the powers of a Sharingan and Byakugan, he didn't state it was the Sharingan. It is also called the Rinne Sharingan, so if you consider the Rinnegan as strong as a Sharingan then you're just stupid.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Are you an idiot? Hagaromo said she had the powers of a Sharingan and Byakugan, he didn't state it was the Sharingan. It is also called the Rinne Sharingan, so if you consider the Rinnegan as strong as a Sharingan then you're just stupid.

I think there's one idiot here, and it isn't me. It has the powers of the Sharingan, yet isn't a Sharingan Somebody needs to go back to school, heck you need to learn some kiddie level grammar.

Sharingan (noun).

Mangekyou (adjective descriptive word) Sharingan (noun that is described).

Rinne (adjective/descriptive word) Sharingan (Noun that is described).

Had youknown basic grammar you wouldn't he having this problem.

 

[Yahcob13]

Rinnegan tech is a big deal for non-sharingan users. But for an Uchiha its just icing on the cake. What would be interesting is if Sarada's Sharingan matured into Rinne Sharingan. I want to see the Mangekyou Rinne-Sharingan. I think Hagoromo had it but kept it on the dl. His MS looks like a rinnegan.

 

[Yahcob13]

Based on Boruto The Movie, we know what the God Trees are. They are simply chakra seeds that grew. These seeds are planted to become that world's biggest and possibly oldest tree on that planet. They basically act as a channeller of senjutsu chakra.

Much like the same principle of senjutsu (where a vessel channels in the surrounding energy to store it within themselves). This is the purpose of the God Trees. It does not evolve, it is not sentient, it is simply a plant.

The God Tree sucks up all the life and energy in that planet and they are then used as immortality pills or forced evolution fruit.
Kaguya used the God Tree for her own devices and turned it into an evolutionary fruit for her to absorb and consume.

This gave her the 3rd eye and became a completed being.
She had 2 children, which inherited her powers among them (we are not sure whether or not they took some of her power).
Hagoromo and Hamura separated Kaguya's new body and her stolen chakra.

This chakra is what later come to known as the Juubi and the vessel, Gedo Mazou.
The Juubi was then split furthermore into 9 other beings. These beings are the Tailed Beasts.
The Gedo Mazou has now become the moon.


Ever since the consumption of Earth, the chakra has been devolving. From Kaguya being a completed being, to her 2 children. To being split into chakra and vessel to becoming 9 different beasts and the moon.

Her children also had children which further diluted the planet's power.
Her Karma, Black Zetsu, is the only one trying to bring her back together in one piece.

However, due to many living creatures using up their own power and stealing others', she has competition and will never be fully complete unless she takes all of their lives.

The Infinite Tsukoyumi was one such plan to bring all of the scattered chakra into one place for her to consume once more.


For the new generation, like Boruto, certainly Boruto has the most chakra out of everyone.

His father has been once blessed by Hagoromo and his mother blessed by Hamura.
Mitsuki is a combination of Hasihrama and Toneri.
Sarada is the offspring of Sasuke, someone blessed by Hagoromo.

Out of all these 3, Sarada is the weakest because of the potency of chakra.
Her chakra is diluted between her father and a human.

While Mitsuki is a Senju and a moon RS.
Boruto's parents have the progenitor's blessings.

I think you are sleeping on Sakura and byakugo. But im not mad. What do you think about Boruto and bijuu chakra? In the anime the Jougan has the 9t ability to sense negative emotions. Naruto didn't get that until he unlocked kcm. He also has whiskers like the gold and silver brothers. So there is some reason to speculate about his status with bijuu chakra.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Rinnegan tech is a big deal for non-sharingan users. But for an Uchiha its just icing on the cake. What would be interesting is if Sarada's Sharingan matured into Rinne Sharingan. I want to see the Mangekyou Rinne-Sharingan. I think Hagoromo had it but kept it on the dl. His MS looks like a rinnegan.

Hagoromo doesn't help MS. I think you meant Indra. That dude got MS that looking like a Rinnegan.

 

[Yahcob13]

Hagoromo doesn't help MS. I think you meant Indra. That dude got MS that looking like a Rinnegan.

The theory is that Hagoromo's MS is a Mangekyou Rinnesharingan. The tomoe and magekyou pattern is sealed. That's why it's not an actual eyeball.

 

[Ansatsuken]

The theory is that Hagoromo's MS is a Mangekyou Rinnesharingan. The tomoe and magekyou pattern is sealed. That's why it's not an actual eyeball.

So it just a theory. Nothing to discuss here.

 

[salamander uchiha]

So it just a theory. Nothing to discuss here.

I mean technically the Rinnegan users can use the projection power of the MS with Rinnegan. Madara with Limbo, Sasuke with Ameno and black flames etc. If the power is Hogaromo's then he too should be able to use it like they do, if not better (I doubt that).