The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seem at all plausible to me

[Kurama2012]

its a clan and most clans hold great importants to the clan over most stuff so if uchiha wanted to take over the clansmen will follow only kagami, shisui and itachi broke their ties to the clan and they probably didnt talk it out because they probably felt they wouldnt get anywhere

 

[Child Of The Great Empire]

True but there would still be losses caused unintentionally due to getting caught in the crossfire.

A war is not a war without the losses. It has to happen.

 

[uchihajaime]

Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

It's a manga full of ninjas using special powers, of course it's going to be unrealistic.

Game of Thrones has dragons. Therefore, everything in it is unrealistic. This logic is horrible.
First, if you have a system of magic, there needs to be logic in this system. Naruto has a good magical system.
Second, characters and groups of characters' actions have to be realistic and plausible. They have to make sense within their worldview. However, hundreds cannot possibly have the same worldview. That's why it makes no sense that all Uchiha were in on the coup. That's why Danzo's kill them all logic is fail. I find it hard to believe Sasuke's aunt was in on it. However, she died. Presumably she was in it. It makes no sense!

 

[mikeeozua]

Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

Game of Thrones has dragons. Therefore, everything in it is unrealistic. This logic is horrible.
First, if you have a system of magic, there needs to be logic in this system. Naruto has a good magical system.
Second, characters and groups of characters' actions have to be realistic and plausible. They have to make sense within their worldview. However, hundreds cannot possibly have the same worldview. That's why it makes no sense that all Uchiha were in on the coup. That's why Danzo's kill them all logic is fail. I find it hard to believe Sasuke's aunt was in on it. However, she died. Presumably she was in it. It makes no sense!

Exactly, also Sasuke's mother didn't seem to into the idea either.

 

[Raekwon26]

Game of Thrones has dragons. Therefore, everything in it is unrealistic. This logic is horrible.
First, if you have a system of magic, there needs to be logic in this system. Naruto has a good magical system.
Second, characters and groups of characters' actions have to be realistic and plausible. They have to make sense within their worldview. However, hundreds cannot possibly have the same worldview. That's why it makes no sense that all Uchiha were in on the coup. That's why Danzo's kill them all logic is fail. I find it hard to believe Sasuke's aunt was in on it. However, she died. Presumably she was in it. It makes no sense!

Very sensible answer.

Uchiha are just the way they are described time to time...
- Ignorant
- Proud
- Selfish
- and many more negative values...

And it's a fact that only few of them in decades turn out to be better people...

Uchiha coup' almost happened so it's realistic...

This is just pure idiocy.

 

[uchihajaime]

Re: The Uchiha coup situation doesn't seems at all realistic to me

No one said they were evil. Think of the Uchiha clan more like a union. The clan leader typically spoke on behalf of the majority, and if he didn't then he could rally the other men up to revolt with him. Regardless though, they all needed to go. If only the ones acting out were killed, it would only serve as a message to those who lived, and would stage continued revolts. Just look at Sasuke, he was the only one allowed to live, and look how that ended up. Imagine 2 dozen Sasukes running around.

Lots of people here say they are evil. never mind that it is utterly unethical to wipe out an entire clan.
What about this? what if someone had told Sasuke the truth before he became consumed with hatred when he was still friends with Naruto? I don't think he would have sworn to kill them all.
It also because the Leaf wiped all the Uchiha that Sasuke wanted to kill them. They killed innocents, like the Uchiha children and his aunt that had nothing to do with that coup. Therefore, Sasuke decides to kill them all , though not all were involved in the massacre. He is using the same kill them all logic Danzo used.

Hatred does not end when you kill them all. It ends with both parties finding the middle ground. Hatred is vanquished when both parties come together and both admit that they were in the wrong. Hatred ends via reconciliation, not genocide. By your logic, the Leaf should kill all the Cloud ninja. Why? Their leader killed Neji's father. If we kill their leader, they'll seek revenge and kill us. Then we'll have to kill some more of then as payback. Why not kill them all, right now for crimes they'll commit in the future as payback for our actions? The cycle of hatred is just that a cycle and it can only end when both parties have had enough.

 

[Tobby17]

uhm it makes a lot of sense...

if you really put your clan b4 the village, then you can be brainwashed into believing that you are being oppressed and needing a kind of revolution

 

[vandell]

The Uchiha had no chance of ever been hokage, so a revolt was in order. the fact none of them had Susanoo and wasnt able to kill any leaf village is what I cant believe

 

[FearxDeath]

As is the way of FEAR I started off by replying and just decided that this deserved to be made into a thread. Keep a look out, it should be published within 30-40min

 

[Jcub]

From the flashbacks, the manga is implying to us that every single Uchiha in the clan had intentions of a coup and the only innocents were the children. The Uchiha is roughly composed of around 100 and over members. You mean to tell me that not one of these members was fighting for Konoha? The fact that it only seemed as if Kagami, Shisui and Itachi were the only 'good' Uchihas out of a 200+ man clan doesn't seem right to me. You know, none of them came up with the idea of just simply talking to Hiruzen? They were all crazed lunatics who wanted to purge, rape and destroy every Konoha citizen just to get their name in lights? The situation doesn't come off as somewhat realistic. Maybe Obito/Madara lied.

The feeling I got was that enough of them were willing to revolt, and they were gaining popularity. Purging was the only way to avoid making anyone of the key figures a martyr for their "Cause". This is not a unknown practice in our own ancient world, in various empires and such. They may have had bad judgment on the situation and over reacted, this is also plausible among the paranoid and extremest. Sadly those types are common in security and the unconventional organizations.

I think its more or less bad story telling... to vague with hints or clues toward one direction to many times get make it seem solid for our digestion.

 

[Anorien16]

Your discounting Madara getting what he wants from the equation .... The whole thing was sowed and reaped by Madara you know .....

Not mention the the Uchiha top brass was Kinda pushy, they never cared what Itachi wanted just looked after their own needs ... and possibly Itachi wasnt the only one to suffer so, but submissive enough to go along (how long can u stand up againt your own clan even when they are wrong) .... that would not have made a difference to Danzo anyway.

 

[veggetta13]

Bold: Rape? Kill every citizen? Are you drunk, dude? Nobody said they wanted to kill everyone or rape them. They just wanted the justice. ANBU watched them, they weren't trustworthy, it wasn't fair to them.

what the hell do you think coup de e´tate is? For you to enlighten your ignorance people do die in one -yes, even if it´s just a fiction-, these (coups) are meant to bring change to a region or country by disarming the core of government itself mostly (regularly, cuz they´re not part of any means of democracy through violence, for completing a previously set goal (which most casually is to rule over your foes).

So people do die, don´t pretend ppl would be alright if it came to happen in the story. Hiruzen, Danzou, and Itachi are enough proof of conscience to rely on their decision.

40 ninjas using genjutsu or even just the sharingan speed is enough to grow huge concern if an attack was planned by them, plus them being the police defintely gives them a huge tactical advantage (check Japan´s government structure in between 1925 and 1943).

Militarism is and has been a concern for most of world´s leading countries in the last 120 years