"The type of Hokage I want to be, is one that doesn't sacrifice a life!

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Well I wouldn't be surprised if Otsutsuki exist out of the boundary line since they are not regarded as human beings in the first place.

Nah, Naruto can sense evil. At first I thought it was poor of him to not even attempt dialogue with Kaguya. But Kaguya seemed genuinely crazed and had her mind in BZ, an objective blob of objective, actual evil. It'd be hypocritical of Naruto to exclude the Ootsutsuki because they're from a different place.

Kinshiki was killed by the Kage and sacrificed his own life whilst Momoshiki simply left them no other option. I think it works, how do you feel on the way he handled Toneri?
 

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It doesn't make for Sarada which is probably 9 years old to want to kill people . what she said suits better IMO
 

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Nah, Naruto can sense evil. At first I thought it was poor of him to not even attempt dialogue with Kaguya. But Kaguya seemed genuinely crazed and had her mind in BZ, an objective blob of objective, actual evil. It'd be hypocritical of Naruto to exclude the Ootsutsuki because they're from a different place.

Kaguya was a nut job no doubt about it, but Naruto has never tried to have a conversation with Otsutsuki for them to see it his way, whereas he has before. It's either not consistent writing, or the lack of Naruto being the MC here.


Kinshiki was killed by the Kage and sacrificed his own life whilst Momoshiki simply left them no other option. I think it works, how do you feel on the way he handled Toneri?
I don't even remember what happened in the Last to gauge this conversation.
 

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Nah, Naruto can sense evil. At first I thought it was poor of him to not even attempt dialogue with Kaguya. But Kaguya seemed genuinely crazed and had her mind in BZ, an objective blob of objective, actual evil. It'd be hypocritical of Naruto to exclude the Ootsutsuki because they're from a different place.

Kinshiki was killed by the Kage and sacrificed his own life whilst Momoshiki simply left them no other option. I think it works, how do you feel on the way he handled Toneri?

Lol how would you feel if Naruto tries to TnJ BZ? :lmao:
 

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Kaguya was a nut job no doubt about it, but Naruto has never tried to have a conversation with Otsutsuki for them to see it his way, whereas he has before. It's either not consistent writing, or the lack of Naruto being the MC here.
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I think the evil sensing buries that under the bridge. There is zero reasoning with BZ, and that was all that was left of Kaguya's mind really. Momoshiki and Kinshiki's only motivation is to devour worlds...so there's little to work with there, but yeah- he didn't even ask.

Undeveloped villains remain undeveloped. I do agree that they were both defeated and the Kages were going for a defeat & capture mission though.


I don't even remember what happened in the Last to gauge this conversation.

I just throw him in as an Ootsutsuki. Naruto didn't exactly talk with him much to try dissuade him, from what I remember it's just 'rescue Hinata' and go full throttle for the kill.
 

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I think the evil sensing buries that under the bridge. There is zero reasoning with BZ, and that was all that was left of Kaguya's mind really. Momoshiki and Kinshiki's only motivation is to devour worlds...so there's little to work with there, but yeah- he didn't even ask.

Undeveloped villains remain undeveloped. I do agree that they were both defeated and the Kages were going for a defeat & capture mission though.
Agreed.




I just throw him in as an Ootsutsuki. Naruto didn't exactly talk with him much to try dissuade him, from what I remember it's just 'rescue Hinata' and go full throttle for the kill.
Ah. Didn't Naruto save him after he tried to explode himself afterwards after losing control with the Tenseigan? I do somewhat remember Naruto and Toneri having a conversation before they left to Earth, saying he could join them. But he went all Sasuke and said he needed to atone for his sins alone or something lmfao.
 

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Agreed.





Ah. Didn't Naruto save him after he tried to explode himself afterwards after losing control with the Tenseigan? I do somewhat remember Naruto and Toneri having a conversation before they left to Earth, saying he could join them. But he went all Sasuke and said he needed to atone for his sins alone or something lmfao.

Ah that sounds about right. Cool, good to know Naruto's still got it, what with the Shins and the Sound Village.
 

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Agreed.





Ah. Didn't Naruto save him after he tried to explode himself afterwards after losing control with the Tenseigan? I do somewhat remember Naruto and Toneri having a conversation before they left to Earth, saying he could join them. But he went all Sasuke and said he needed to atone for his sins alone or something lmfao.

Toneri is not really evil/ bad guy. He just executing the "punishment"
 

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Toneri is not really evil/ bad guy. He just executing the "punishment"
Ah that sounds about right. Cool, good to know Naruto's still got it, what with the Shins and the Sound Village.
I had that same thought process too. Though, he did recklessly try to destroy Earth... Still, I understand where he was coming from, I guess his saving grace was the Tenseigan which might have corrupted him a bit. I dunno.

As long as he's a good guy I'm fine, if it turns out he double crosses Naruto in the future, that won't look good lol.
 

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That's kind of my worry. It's hard to build the story different from Naruto's story, when every possible outcome is being resolved almost the same.

Granted I understand that the focus of these Arcs aren't that serious yet, as no one has been killed nor has a War started. But I would hate for them to still be cookie-cutter ninjas who don't do what needs to be done, for the sake of goals or stereotypes.

Killing should be warranted under the case that it's deserved, for sure. I hope this doesn't hold the series back like Naruto.

aren't 'cookie-cutter ninja' the type that are kill happy?

Killing should be warranted under the case that it's deserved, for sure. I hope this doesn't hold the series back like Naruto.

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aren't 'cookie-cutter ninja' the type that are kill happy?

Killing should be warranted under the case that it's deserved, for sure. I hope this doesn't hold the series back like Naruto.

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It has before already. I still feel weird about Kishimoto not letting Kakuzu die by FRS, but instead had Kishimoto slice his neck off lol...
 

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This role is served by Shikamaru and has been hugely minimalised.

Shikamarus is an adviser, nothing more. It's sasuke's active contributions during his travels that effectively minimize whatever it is they deal with. Neither him or Naruto are killas.
 

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Shikamarus is an adviser, nothing more. It's sasuke's active contributions during his travels that effectively minimize whatever it is they deal with. Neither him or Naruto are killas.

Someone didn't read the hiiiiden
 

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Who do you think Sarada's adviser will be?

Denki's laptop.

(Someone like Ino from a previous generation hopefully. Otherwise is Tsunade a weird suggestion? Mitsuki?)
 
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Denki's laptop.

(Someone like Ino from a previous generation hopefully. Otherwise is Tsunade a weird suggestion? Mitsuki?)
My guess is:

Mitsuki (I guess he needs a role to play??), Shikadai (cause he needs any more reasons to not be a Shikamaru clone right?), Boruto (who knows at this point TBH), Cho-Cho (just saying this for the LULZ), or possibly someone from the old generation.
 

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My guess is:

Mitsuki (I guess he needs a role to play??), Shikadai (cause he needs any more reasons to not be a Shikamaru clone right?), Boruto (who knows at this point TBH), Cho-Cho (just saying this for the LULZ), or possibly someone from the old generation.

Someone from the old generation would be more interesting and surprising but the most likely answer is Boruto. I can't see Mitsuki having a particularly normal ending in the series to be honest. Does domestic life suit him? I can imagine him having Ibiki's job but in the Hokage office seems strange. So yeah, i'm going to go with Ino.

Her Kage Summit guards are Boruto and Kiba.
 

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Someone from the old generation would be more interesting and surprising but the most likely answer is Boruto. I can't see Mitsuki having a particularly normal ending in the series to be honest. Does domestic life suit him? I can imagine him having Ibiki's job but in the Hokage office seems strange. So yeah, i'm going to go with Ino.

Her Kage Summit guards are Boruto and Kiba.
I kind of want to rule Boruto in and out because if he wants to play that support role in Sasuke's sense, he might not always be in the Village. Even when Sasuke is in the Village, Shikamaru still plays his vital role alongside Naruto, so its not like Sasuke replaces him either.

So Boruto is either going to play Sasuke's role only to Sarada, or he'll play both Sasuke and Shikamaru's role.

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Flip side being Mitsuki, if he accommodates with domestic life like he's doing now, I don't see a reason for him not to help out. His whole purpose is being by Boruto's side, but at some point that's going to be near impossible. So I guess the next best thing is him finding his own purpose, which might be helping Sarada out. I mean it would make him more interesting than his cheer-leading thing he has going on IMO.

If not either, Shikadai by default. I would rather have an oldie though. Maybe Asuma's daughter?
 
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