The two JJ Uchiha still fall to izanami ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Punk Hazard]

So no explanation?

Oh no, I provided the explanation about three times now. It's out of my hands now, its up to you if you understand it or not.

 

[Lariatoo]

In a fight against them he would lose. Badly. But Izanami if managed to be prepped would definitly work.

It's like saying "a kunai can kill Minato"
It's extremily unlikely that a simple kunai could catch the Yondaime with his speed and reflexes, but is he imune to kunais altogether? Nope.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Oh no, I provided the explanation about three times now. It's out of my hands now, its up to you if you understand it or not.

No , you just explained why it isn't a visual genjutsu but you didn't explain what castes the genjutsu

Iamma make it simple, what is the thing that's doing the genjutsu if it's not the eyes? I mean it changes its appearance and records the actions of the victim so I assumed that it also castes the genjutsu

But you on the other didn't tell me what does the user use to cast the genjutsu

 

[The Necromancer]

Ohhh is that why you said "it's not a visual genjutsu" you clearly was trying to say that it isn't

Because it's not...

No , you just explained why it isn't a visual genjutsu but you didn't explain what castes the genjutsu

Iamma make it simple, what is the thing that's doing the genjutsu if it's not the eyes? I mean it changes its appearance and records the actions of the victim so I assumed that it also castes the genjutsu

But you on the other didn't tell me what does the user use to cast the genjutsu

Visual jutsu doesn't imply what body part uses it, but what body part the opponent perceives it with, you moron.

You don't have to look into Itachi's eyes to be caught, therefor it's not visual.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Because it's not...



Visual jutsu doesn't imply what body part uses it, but what body part the opponent perceives it with, you moron. You don't have to look into Itachi's eyes to be caught, therefor it's not visual.

Ok and since you're here , what body part does the genjustu attack? Lol

 

[shelke]

It's odd to put the exact mechanics of this Jutsu in words. It records images and plays them in a loop. You can call it an elaborate Genjutsu, but since the mechanics on breaking it require certain prerequisites to break out of it, along with the the idea of past being played in loop as opposed to illusion, it cannot be classified as such. It's basically a reel being played over and over again. It isn't a genjutsu because the instances were based in reality, but it does hold certain aspects of it as what had occurred becomes a part of the visual loop.

It's a very weird technique. Anyhow, I don't think they are getting caught in it.

 

[The Necromancer]

Ok and since you're here , what body part does the genjustu attack? Lol

The brain. It works outside of the 5 senses, as directly explained in the manga.

It is not visual, nor tactile, nor auditory, nor taste or smell induced.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

The brain. It works outside of the 5 senses, as directly explained in the manga.

It is not visual, nor tactile, nor auditory, nor taste or smell induced.

Do you also believe Madara is immune to Danzo using Izanagi?

Unlike izanami it doesn't putt you on genjutsu

And by attacking the brain you mean putting all the memories that the eye recorded and make the enemy memorize them by using his eyes

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That would make sense but if it attacks the brain how come there's an extra path in which the victim can leave the loop?

 

[Punk Hazard]

No , you just explained why it isn't a visual genjutsu but you didn't explain what castes the genjutsu

Iamma make it simple, what is the thing that's doing the genjutsu if it's not the eyes? I mean it changes its appearance and records the actions of the victim so I assumed that it also castes the genjutsu

But you on the other didn't tell me what does the user use to cast the genjutsu

Ok and since you're here , what body part does the genjustu attack? Lol

That. Doesn't. Matter. The argument wasn't ¨What casts the genjutsu¨, it was ¨Is it a visual genjutsu.¨ You tried to say yes it was; now that the explanation for why it isn't has been presented to you, you're trying to cop out and change the argument to avoid appearing like you are: Wrong. You can try to say ¨Oh but what part was it cast with¨, doesn't change that you were wrong when you said this.

It is visual, since itachi uses hus eye to cast it

 

[The Necromancer]

Unlike izanami it doesn't putt you on genjutsu

And by attacking the brain you mean putting all the memories that the eye recorded and make the enemy memorize them by using his eyes

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That would make sense but if it attacks the brain how come there's an extra path in which the victim can leave the loop?

Yes. Izanami works by recording the transpiring events with the user's sharingan, and placing the opponent in a genjutsu wherein the repeat that recorded content over and over again until they accept the destiny pre-seleceted by the user.

The very fact that the opponent does not look into the user's eyes to activate the genjutsu, means it is not a visual genjutsu and therefor the rinnegan has no immunity to it.

The opponent's eyes aren't even a factor, considering Kabuto was put into it while having his eyes sealed off from any sight at all, let alone visual genjutsu influence.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

That. Doesn't. Matter. The argument wasn't ¨What casts the genjutsu¨, it was ¨Is it a visual genjutsu.¨ You tried to say yes it was; now that the explanation for why it isn't has been presented to you, you're trying to cop out and change the argument to avoid appearing like you are: Wrong. You can try to say ¨Oh but what part was it cast with¨, doesn't change that you were wrong when you said this.

Who said I was denying I was wrong, I just asked you for an explanation since you were denying my post and you couldn't, at least necromancer4276 is explaining something unlike you, and no since you said that it isn't visual I was trying to know what casts the genjutsu by asking you a simple question, you couldn't answer it and now you changing the topic :/

 

[shelke]

The eyes are recorders of the loop, but they are not used to cast it. Maybe that's what's confusing you.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Yes. Izanami works by recording the transpiring events with the user's sharingan, and placing the opponent in a genjutsu wherein the repeat that recorded content over and over again until they accept the destiny pre-seleceted by the user.

The very fact that the opponent does not look into the user's eyes to activate the genjutsu, means it is not a visual genjutsu and therefor the rinnegan has no immunity to it.

The opponent's eyes aren't even a factor, considering Kabuto was put into it while having his eyes sealed off from any sight at all, let alone visual genjutsu influence.

.................if you put it like that then yeah, it's not, I just confused by people saying that itachi uses physical contact to cast the genjutsu which was completely illogical but yeah I was wrong

 

[Venomous Cobra]

The eyes are recorders of the loop, but they are not used to cast it. Maybe that's what's confusing you.

Yes exactly, people were Saying some random shit and avoiding the Simple question I asked, and the fact that the eye does mostly all the work made me assume that it casts the genjutsu

 

[shelke]

Yes exactly, people were Saying some random shit and avoiding the Simple question I asked, and the fact that the eye does mostly all the work made me assume that it casts the genjutsu

They are the main recorders, but the loop is not cast with them. This Jutsu doesn't even make any sense to me, to be honest.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

The amount of time needed for Itachi to cast and carry out Izanami is too long to not be killed beforehand by either JJs.