The two JJ Uchiha still fall to izanami ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Scryed]

Wait hold on.

If Itachi were to actually miraculously catch them in Izanami, would the Juubi (or Kaguya) take over? Since Obito won't be able to put up resistance.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I was actually countering your BS claim that the Rinnegan makes one immune to Izanami. I couldn't care less about the vs. debate.

Ohhh is that why you said "it's not a visual genjutsu" you clearly was trying to say that it isn't

 

[Mellow]

ARE MADARA AND OBITO CAPABLE OF BEING PUT IN IZANAMI?

Yes. End of thread Lol

 

[Venomous Cobra]

if that's how you see it then go ahead and run with it.

Nope I just need an explanation in how it works from your point of view

 

[Joker]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.​

Perfect example on why no one takes the majority of your fanbase seriously, shit is comical.

 

[KidGamer65]

wasn't Kabuto arrogant which first of all came from him not being able to accept reality? All of his self pride , led him to be put in the izanami in the first place. Just like how madara is big of himself

His arrogance had nothing to do with why he was trapped in Izanami. He was trying to become someone else, someone that he wasn't, which is why he was able to be trapped, Itachi already explained this.

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Madara cannot be trapped in Izanami, not unless he uses Izanagi first, something he won't do. Izanami isn't happening.

 

[Kingu]

wasn't Kabuto arrogant which first of all came from him not being able to accept reality? All of his self pride , led him to be put in the izanami in the first place. Just like how madara is big of himself

He was caught in cause he didn't know who he was anymore, Madara on the other hand didn't accept fate and try to change by placing everyone in a genjutsu.
So yeah both can be caught in Izanami

 

[Awkward Linguist]

wasn't Kabuto arrogant which first of all came from him not being able to accept reality? All of his self pride , led him to be put in the izanami in the first place. Just like how madara is big of himself

Son, shut up.

You don't know what you're talking about, nor what you're reading. Itachi placed Izanami over Kabuto for the simple reason Kabuto didn't know 'who' he was. For years he idolized Orochimaro and wanted to become like him. Itachi used it so that Kabuto could truly find himself and know what/who he is. Not because he's... arrogant. Lol​

 

[Mellow]

Wait hold on.

If Itachi were to actually miraculously catch them in Izanami, would the Juubi (or Kaguya) take over? Since Obito won't be able to put up resistance.

who knows? Lol kishis should just release chapters of random character matchups and show how the fight would go (like how marvel does)

For ex
Minato vs Gai
Obito vs Itachi
Madara vs Itachi
Sasuke vs DMS kakashi

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

Madara knew his purpose and goal unlike Kabuto

Madara has knowledge about the ocular techniques more than Itachi [Which grants him advantage to counter]

Madara also has superior speed/reflexes in order to takeout Itachi before casting the Genjutsu [Since it requires time] .​

 

[Punk Hazard]

Ohhh is that why you said "it's not a visual genjutsu" you clearly was trying to say that it isn't

A visual genjutsu is one that is established through eye contact, not just genjutsu that stems from the Uchiha's eyes. Izanami isn't a visual genjutsu because it affects the user without the need to establish any kind of visual link between caster and victim.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

A visual genjutsu is one that is established through eye contact, not just genjutsu that stems from the Uchiha's eyes. Izanami isn't a visual genjutsu because it affects the user without the need to establish any kind of visual link between caster and victim.

What are the "uchiha eyes"? Sharingan right? Without them can he cast the genjutsu? No. Are they important factor for the genjutsu progress? Yes therefore I would sat that they cast the genjutsu but Indirectly

 

[Punk Hazard]

He was caught in cause he didn't know who he was anymore, Madara on the other hand didn't accept fate and try to change by placing everyone in a genjutsu.
So yeah both can be caught in Izanami

Er, no, that's not how Izanami works. Izanami works on people who lie to themselves about reality. In Kabuto's case, it was the fact that he was trying to be Orochimaru. Madara doesn't lie to himself about reality, it's quite the opposite. He sees reality for what it is, and that's a world where there's pain and happiness, dark and light. Wanting to change the world isn't he same as not seeing reality, in fact, seeing reality is the only way you can develop the desire to change the world.

 

[Punk Hazard]

What are the "uchiha eyes"? Sharingan right? Without them can he cast the genjutsu? No. Are they important factor for the genjutsu progress? Yes therefore I would sat that they cast the genjutsu but Indirectly

No one ever said that the Genjutsu wasn't cast using the Sharingan, it was. But that doesn't make it a visual genjutsu. A visual genjutsu is one that takes effect because of a visual link between the caster and victim, aka eye contact. That's not how Izanami works.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

No one ever said that the Genjutsu wasn't cast using the Sharingan, it was. But that doesn't make it a visual genjutsu. A visual genjutsu is one that takes effect because of a visual link between the caster and victim, aka eye contact. That's not how Izanami works.

Op was trying to say that the eyes has nothing to do with the genjutsu, implying that the physical contact is what castes the genjutsu whicu is wrong.and yeah the eye saves what happened

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[Punk Hazard]

Op was trying to say that the eyes has nothing to do with the genjutsu, implying that the physical contact is what castes the genjutsu whicu is wrong.and yeah the eye saves what happened

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Yeah, I'm aware how Izanami works, I'm just saying, Necromancer is right in that it's not a visual genjutsu.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Yeah, I'm aware how Izanami works, I'm just saying, Necromancer is right in that it's not a visual genjutsu.

What is it then? What castes the genjutsu?

 

[Tantalus Thief]

its not only knowing yourself. Its for those who can't accept fate/reality. Which your boy madara can't

Madara accepts it he just wants to change reality.

 

[Punk Hazard]

What is it then? What castes the genjutsu?

Oh for ****'s sake, I can see why other forums snicker at the sound of this forum's name.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Oh for ****'s sake, I can see why other forums snicker at the sound of this forum's name.

So no explanation?I just need you to tell me how it works in your point of view so that I can know if it's visual or not