The truth of thanksgiving!!!

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No, not really.
History is written by the victors, in wars for example.
Gaddaffi is portrayed as an evil dictaor who killed his own people.
Obama is portrayed as a good President.
Assad is portrayed as a bad dictator.
Let's not start with WWII.

I do not follow random facts, like you. I believed school books and the media for the longest time.
Yeah, no. They were White. I have to look for links if I find them, which could take a while, I can show you.
Random facts like you? How would you know what I believe in. You can show me links that they were white while I can show you twice as much that they weren't. Don't be a hypocrite.

Saying my facts are random while your "facts" are in fact, facts, is not an argument. I don't even think Gaddafi was evil, nor do I think Assad is a horrible mean guy. So we have that in common.

However, Obama is not evil as you think but he isn't great either. And Trump is one of the most moronic bigots you can vote for. Your intelligence, in my eyes, is non-existent if you think he would make a good president.
 
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Random facts like you? How would you know what I believe in. You can show me links that they were white while I can show you twice as much that they weren't. Don't be a hypocrite.

Saying my facts are random while your "facts" are in fact, facts, is not an argument. I don't even think Gaddafi was evil, nor do I think Assad is a horrible mean guy. So we have that in common.

However, Obama is not evil as you think but he isn't great either. And Trump is one of the most moronic bigots you can vote for. Your intelligence, in my eyes, is non-existent if you think he would make a good president.
Obama is about as nieve as they come and trump is a mussolini type its scary hilary clinton i would put more trust in a theif lets say that
 

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People of today dont owe anyone anything all you can do is move ahead it happend and was more over serious the sarcastic. if somebody goes to blame me for something i never did which happend 100 years ago then i will give them the same straight up answer to go **** themselves

No one is going to blame you idiot. But you have to understand, as a society, not as an individual, there is a certain level of accountability that needs to be upheld from a higher point of power. It may have happened long ago, but the circumstances from which indigenous and black people were left in, can be attributed to their current conditions. All this non sympathetic prudeness is not going to get EVERYONE where they need to be, something needs to be done to help them out, but with people like you who don't owe them shit, it'll just repeat itself, it's causality my friend, and it needs to be acknowledged.
 

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No one is going to blame you idiot. But you have to understand, as a society, not as an individual, there is a certain level of accountability that needs to be upheld from a higher point of power. It may have happened long ago, but the circumstances from which indigenous and black people were left in, can be attributed to their current conditions. All this non sympathetic prudeness is not going to get EVERYONE where they need to be, something needs to be done to help them out, but with people like you who don't owe them shit, it'll just repeat itself, it's causality my friend, and it needs to be acknowledged.
Purhaps as it may though it indeed needs understandings on both sides and a willingness to make steps in the right direction which i do believe can and will happen in our time and there is much work to be done and there is alot of disappointments out there but there are also bright spots pardon my harshness at some points
 

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Now, I'm not comparing what's happening here to anything like racial shootings etc. but...

Anti white statements are just as bad as anti black/Asian/native/etc statements.

When you say whites can't be trusted, that's racist, even if I completely understand the perspective. White people have been ****ed up throughout history, true, but it's still unfair to judge by skin color.

I understand and acknowledge white privilege, it's real, yes, institutional racism exists, and yes we should do something about it.

But! Saying racist things back isn't fixing the problem, it's supporting it. I mean, how am I supposed to feel reading this post? I've never committed a genocide, I've never hurt anyone due to their race, I've never felt any racist feelings toward anyone, and even though I'm white, I'm a very honest person, I grew up poor as dirt, and never experienced white privileges (though I know it exists), and I'm in love with a black person. (Technically mixed)

So my question is: is your intention to fight racism? Or is it to continue it?

I know this thread isn't meant to be what it is, but I'm just wondering, how did you intend someone like me to feel about this? I feel it was true in the past for the most part, and I feel it's unfair to say these things now, since in many ways, it just adds fire to the fire that is racism.
 

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Obama is about as nieve as they come and trump is a mussolini type its scary hilary clinton i would put more trust in a theif lets say that

I think... Obama heart was in the right place, but do to his general unpopularity, he felt forced to be very moderate in his changes for most of his presidency.

But during this last stretch, he's significantly changed his act on presidency as is making many more actions, now that he's got a lot more supporters through his success, and especially since his biggest enemies (republicans) have been outed for their (mostly) horrible ways.

So he took things slow publicly, and is now much more active in his presidency.

Cowardly? Or necessary to make his changes? Maybe a little of both, but no one can deny he's got this country in s much better place than what it was, and even though it hasn't totally changed my life, I'd say he's done a good job.

Oh and I just felt like saying... He is not a ****ing Muslim for whoever believes that. Not that it matters in the first place, since religion doesn't determine who you are, you do that with your actions.
 

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Now, I'm not comparing what's happening here to anything like racial shootings etc. but...

Anti white statements are just as bad as anti black/Asian/native/etc statements.

When you say whites can't be trusted, that's racist, even if I completely understand the perspective. White people have been ****ed up throughout history, true, but it's still unfair to judge by skin color.

I understand and acknowledge white privilege, it's real, yes, institutional racism exists, and yes we should do something about it.

But! Saying racist things back isn't fixing the problem, it's supporting it. I mean, how am I supposed to feel reading this post? I've never committed a genocide, I've never hurt anyone due to their race, I've never felt any racist feelings toward anyone, and even though I'm white, I'm a very honest person, I grew up poor as dirt, and never experienced white privileges (though I know it exists), and I'm in love with a black person. (Technically mixed)

So my question is: is your intention to fight racism? Or is it to continue it?

I know this thread isn't meant to be what it is, but I'm just wondering, how did you intend someone like me to feel about this? I feel it was true in the past for the most part, and I feel it's unfair to say these things now, since in many ways, it just adds fire to the fire that is racism.
You said it much better then i could ever and thats pretty nice love shouldnt be about color it should be about just that love i more over think white privilege is rich privilege cause i never experienced it ether every time i have heard it all i think is wtf i have never had that
 

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Purhaps as it may though it indeed needs understandings on both sides and a willingness to make steps in the right direction which i do believe can and will happen in our time and there is much work to be done and there is alot of disappointments out there but there are also bright spots pardon my harshness at some points

It's all good, this type of attitude leads me to believe that most people are heading in the right direction. We all need to make strides.
 

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I think... Obama heart was in the right place, but do to his general unpopularity, he felt forced to be very moderate in his changes for most of his presidency.

But during this last stretch, he's significantly changed his act on presidency as is making many more actions, now that he's got a lot more supporters through his success, and especially since his biggest enemies (republicans) have been outed for their (mostly) horrible ways.

So he took things slow publicly, and is now much more active in his presidency.

Cowardly? Or necessary to make his changes? Maybe a little of both, but no one can deny he's got this country in s much better place than what it was, and even though it hasn't totally changed my life, I'd say he's done a good job.

Oh and I just felt like saying... He is not a ****ing Muslim for whoever believes that. Not that it matters in the first place, since religion doesn't determine who you are, you do that with your actions.

Maybe or maybe i expect too much and am always left with disappointment i had alot of expectations like many people i understand that he is reluctant to jump into things and cares about lives and is human and is bound to make mistakes though i think he should be much more firmer as a leader should but thats my opinion and condemn racism on any side where ever it shows thats what im looking for in this race i thought carson was the right guy but he withered away i have a few prospective people though i have yet to see much out of the dems cause im always working when they debate
 

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It's all good, this type of attitude leads me to believe that most people are heading in the right direction. We all need to make strides.

Yes indeed though there will be scum out in the midst trying to disrupt it but as long as people stay strong we as a country could become much stronger which many of the usas most prominent figures like Abraham lincoln and martin luther king fought for each were stepping stones and had they lived longer things would be much different possibly better but nothing rings more truer then lincolns "a house divided against itself shall not stand"
 
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Yeah, that's true.

It was a joke, some people really think he was Black but he sure as hell wasn't.
History is BS, but facts aren't. And facts prove that Pharaohs were from Europe.




Well, you can put it how you want. I just say every race evolved differently, ok, some didn't evolved at all. :lol
Some had houses and palaces 2000 years ago, some still live in clay huts.

No, thank you.

@bold: Facts also proves all human life originated from Africa.
 

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The history behind thanksgiving is extremely morbid. People celebrate it?
 

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I can't celebrate it, that's why my family just calls it a gathering. Making it into something it's not is lying to yourself, which my country is the best at. I still love it though.
 
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