The truth about itachi

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After reading threads comparing Itachi to the likes of Hashi, Madara and Nagato, I got p*ssed so I just have to state some facts to the Itachi fans. First let's analyse Itachi's most powerful Jutsu
1.Tsukyomi-A very powerful genjutsu which manipulates space-time, but obviously an experienced ninja wouldn't fall for it as it requires eye to eye contact, and even 3 tomoe sasuke broke out of it, so saying tsukyomi one shots anybody is an illogical statement, its not like he would get the chance to use it if he encounters a really powerful shinobi.
2.Amaterasu-Even sasuke was playing catch up with it with his normal speed, which proves it can be deceived if you move away with speed right before it touches you, but itachi fans make it sounds like it sets one ablaze instantly, he needs focus and he sends the fire to his target, he doesn't just set his target ablaze by looking at them.
3.Susanoo-All hyped up in its introduction like every other technique, it has been shown that the sausanoo can be broken, and even gaara pulled madara out of susanoo, not to mention his suasnoo is as fast as a tortoise which makes its attack and movement easy to foresee, only problem been the power of the attacks. It has yata mirror and totsuka blade, Yata mirror which is said to negate attacks(but like itachi himself said "every jutsu has a weakness) and the totsuka blade which is a variant of the sword of kusanagi(which didn't pierce through 4 tail naruto), but its attack are not instant but actually slow like itachi's susanoo itslef. But overall the susanoo isn't something he can maintain for long because of his poor stamina, in other words any shinobi who can see off the susanoo has more than a fair chance at winning.
4.Finger genjutsu-Itachi fans are fond of saying just a finger is enough. You can't compare this genjutsu to the tsukyomi, as the only person he has used it against is Naruto, who even almost broke out of it with itachi commenting that he wasn't strong enough and that was a very weak naruto. Nuff said
5.Izanami-He only opted for this against kabuto because he was in edo mode, this is not a jutsu he can use freely cause it means loosing a eye(which means one of amaterasu or tsukyomi is gone), and itachi said another reason the jutsu couldn't be used in an actual battle was because it had an easy escape, not to mention it won't work on pure hearted shinobis.
6.Intelligence-This only counts when you are on par with a dumb opponent or slightly weaker than a dumb opponent, so as long as your opponent is smart to a degree and clearly overpowers you, I don't see how you won't lose(you can ask shikamaru and Kakashi)
Now these are itachi's main strength, with these stated I don't see how itachi would be compared to the likes of Nagato, Hashi, Madara..(The list goes on) with all sincerity, I think itachi is at most on Jiraiya's level.
No offense to itachi, just wanted to clear things
 

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U seem to forget a very important thing what made itachi dangerous was his intellect if u fail to understand that then watch bleach

And observe Aizen he was strong but his intellect is what made him feared and awed
 

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To be honest, I'd rank Itachi at Kage level based on who he's beaten (mainly Orochimaru). He's a skilled Shinobi and while I'm not sure if he'd be able to beat Nagato (given his sickness and what not), he could definitely hold his own. He's definitely stronger than Jiraiya (and the other Sannin for that matter), though.
 

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U seem to forget a very important thing what made itachi dangerous was his intellect if u fail to understand that then watch bleach

And observe Aizen he was strong but his intellect is what made him feared and awed

That's the same reason Shikaku and Shikamaru are feared
 

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Tsukuyomi - Only those of the same blood can break out.
 

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To be honest, I'd rank Itachi at Kage level based on who he's beaten (mainly Orochimaru). He's a skilled Shinobi and while I'm not sure if he'd be able to beat Nagato (given his sickness and what not), he could definitely hold his own. He's definitely stronger than Jiraiya (and the other Sannin for that matter), though.

I don't see why people rate orochimaru so high, his only strength is his partial immortality, he has no real technique like jiraiya, all he does is fight with snakes
 

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That's the same reason Shikaku and Shikamaru are feared

Those two Were not feared but respected
As the father was the reason the leaf village was never assaulted based on his strategies

Those two have intel only itachi is a combination of power and intellect as aizen

Itachi can take on Nagato but if he was fighting the six paths I doubt he win
 

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Tsukuyomi - Only those of the same blood can break out.

This is the problem with itachi fans, I remember bee breaking out of sasuke's tsukyomi, that statement is just one like every other, another example is you need to kill your best friend to awaken the Mangekyo sharingan which is totally false and was stated by itachi
 

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Those two Were not feared but respected
As the father was the reason the leaf village was never assaulted based on his strategies

Those two have intel only itachi is a combination of power and intellect as aizen

Itachi can take on Nagato but if he was fighting the six paths I doubt he win

Even with naruto and bee by his side, plot has to help him win. I don't remember when Chibaku tensei allows you time to plan strategy before it attracts you to its core
 

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This is the problem with itachi fans, I remember bee breaking out of sasuke's tsukyomi, that statement is just one like every other, another example is you need to kill your best friend to awaken the Mangekyo sharingan which is totally false and was stated by itachi

I don't think that was Tsukuyomi, just a normal (albeit strong) genjutsu
 
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After reading threads comparing Itachi to the likes of Hashi, Madara and Nagato, I got p*ssed so I just have to state some facts to the Itachi fans. First let's analyse Itachi's most powerful Jutsu
1.Tsukyomi-A very powerful genjutsu which manipulates space-time, but obviously an experienced ninja wouldn't fall for it as it requires eye to eye contact, and even 3 tomoe sasuke broke out of it, so saying tsukyomi one shots anybody is an illogical statement, its not like he would get the chance to use it if he encounters a really powerful shinobi.
2.Amaterasu-Even sasuke was playing catch up with it with his normal speed, which proves it can be deceived if you move away with speed right before it touches you, but itachi fans make it sounds like it sets one ablaze instantly, he needs focus and he sends the fire to his target, he doesn't just set his target ablaze by looking at them.
3.Susanoo-All hyped up in its introduction like every other technique, it has been shown that the sausanoo can be broken, and even gaara pulled madara out of susanoo, not to mention his suasnoo is as fast as a tortoise which makes its attack and movement easy to foresee, only problem been the power of the attacks. It has yata mirror and totsuka blade, Yata mirror which is said to negate attacks(but like itachi himself said "every jutsu has a weakness) and the totsuka blade which is a variant of the sword of kusanagi(which didn't pierce through 4 tail naruto), but its attack are not instant but actually slow like itachi's susanoo itslef. But overall the susanoo isn't something he can maintain for long because of his poor stamina, in other words any shinobi who can see off the susanoo has more than a fair chance at winning.
4.Finger genjutsu-Itachi fans are fond of saying just a finger is enough. You can't compare this genjutsu to the tsukyomi, as the only person he has used it against is Naruto, who even almost broke out of it with itachi commenting that he wasn't strong enough and that was a very weak naruto. Nuff said
5.Izanami-He only opted for this against kabuto because he was in edo mode, this is not a jutsu he can use freely cause it means loosing a eye(which means one of amaterasu or tsukyomi is gone), and itachi said another reason the jutsu couldn't be used in an actual battle was because it had an easy escape, not to mention it won't work on pure hearted shinobis.
6.Intelligence-This only counts when you are on par with a dumb opponent or slightly weaker than a dumb opponent, so as long as your opponent is smart to a degree and clearly overpowers you, I don't see how you won't lose(you can ask shikamaru and Kakashi)
Now these are itachi's main strength, with these stated I don't see how itachi would be compared to the likes of Nagato, Hashi, Madara..(The list goes on) with all sincerity, I think itachi is at most on Jiraiya's level.
No offense to itachi, just wanted to clear things

Didnt read; itachi solos
 

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This is the problem with itachi fans, I remember bee breaking out of sasuke's tsukyomi, that statement is just one like every other, another example is you need to kill your best friend to awaken the Mangekyo sharingan which is totally false and was stated by itachi

And Danzo stated that Itachi's and Sasuke's Genjutsu was as far apart as the earth and the heavens. :| It's a traumatic experience of loosing someone you care about, not just killing someone. That's been stated. :|
 

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Tsukuyomi requires eye contact with the target in order to work.

And fighting without looking to your oponent's eyes is not hard at all.

I only ever recall Gai, and Madara being able to do that. Lol
 

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Itachi is powerful, however some of his fans are crazy.
 
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