[Theory] The True Mechanics of Chibaku Tensei.

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I will be talking about several things.

1)why Madara's CT didn't have only one big crater like Nagatos.

2) Why Madara didn't pull meteors down instead or use a giant CT on team 7 directly.

3) Possible insight on how Hagaromo formed the moon.

4) CT's true purpose is to assist IT



1)

This may be obvious Madara's CT didn't create one huge crater like Nagato's.
This is Nagato's

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While this is Madara's

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The reason is this. Madara split that Giant CT core into many and spread it all over the place.

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So all those rocks are formed from all those seperate CT cores.


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So why didn't Madara just use that giant one on team 7? Because he couldn't. Somehow, a CT core of that magnetude is impossible to sustain itself so he had to split it into many.

Think of it this way: if he could have used the giant one on them, then team 7 would have died right away. And Madara isn't stupid.

Now don't get me wrong. Each one of those "raindrops" are clearly bigger than Nagato's CT sphere. But again, those are about as big as any individual CT core can make them. That is why Madara used many CT cores.


Why he didn't use Meteor's instead? Well as we can see, the motion of the core is remote controlled from the distance.

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So it isn't a stretch to say that Madara can remotely move the CT cores when there is heavy terrain around it.

I imagine this to be more effective then to pull meteors down with a Bansho Tenin like tech. The core can most like move faster than what Madara can acheive with a basic gravity pull

So the kinetic energy of the moving missiles are even faster than dropped meteors.


3)

If it is impossible to use a giant CT, as I speculate, then how did Hagaromo create the moon?

I suspect that Hagaromo did the same thing as Madara, pull up many planetary objects. The only difference is that Hagaromo sent out a signal for all the cores to move towards each other.

By colliding all the rocks together at extreme speeds, the impact could have coaleasced them into one form: the Moon.


4)
Clearly the Rinnegan is connected to IT
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But for IT to work, there needs to be a moon.

That is why CT exists.
 
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Nicely thought out.
I like the idea.
 

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Not saying you're wrong, but there's a loooooot of speculation.

Same. Why do you think Madara can not just create a CT the size of Nagatos? I mean he is the Juubi Jin and is the original owner of the Rinnegan.
 

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Pretty interesting idea about CT

Though wasn't Kaguya able to do IT without the moon, since Hagoromo created it right before he died and she had already used it prior.
 

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Same. Why do you think Madara can not just create a CT the size of Nagatos? I mean he is the Juubi Jin and is the original owner of the Rinnegan.

Actually each one individually is bigger than Nagato's. But he isn't able to create one big one like the moon. All of them has to be seperate.
 

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Same. Why do you think Madara can not just create a CT the size of Nagatos? I mean he is the Juubi Jin and is the original owner of the Rinnegan.

Actually each one individually is bigger than Nagato's. But he isn't able to create one big one like the moon. All of them has to be seperate.
 

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I disagree.

I simply believe that madara choose to do that because it would be faster than using tengai shinsei. However, there would still be giant rocks, many of them, falling fast(like you said) and crushing team 7.
The reason he split the core into many cores is because one core would be an easy target. Even though being a giant CT, he probably knew that naruto and sasuke had the power to destroy it.
By splitting it into many, it gives them more trouble, and it buys him time.

That's what I believe.
 

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I disagree.

I simply believe that madara choose to do that because it would be faster than using tengai shinsei. However, there would still be giant rocks, many of them, falling fast(like you said) and crushing team 7.
The reason he split the core into many cores is because one core would be an easy target. Even though being a giant CT, he probably knew that naruto and sasuke had the power to destroy it.
By splitting it into many, it gives them more trouble, and it buys him time.

That's what I believe.

You do have a point. However, wouldn't the big one just tear them into shreds? The gravitational pull from a big one would be tremendous.

Also, not only do they fall fast, each one has a core. Madara can control their trajectories better, making it more effective than Tengai Shinsei
 
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Madara's ct pulled from multiple places, while Nagato was from a direct center from underneath.

Madara's ct is bigger
 

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You do have a point. However, wouldn't the big one just tear them into shreds? The gravitational pull from a big one would be tremendous.

I don't know how they would be able to stand in the ground, but the mechanics would be the same. Naruto would do some bijuu dama shurikens, sasuke would use his susanoo, bam, they would destroy it, most likely. Only one target.
 

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Normally think anything you post is BS, but nice thought.
 

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I don't know how they would be able to stand in the ground, but the mechanics would be the same. Naruto would do some bijuu dama shurikens, sasuke would use his susanoo, bam, they would destroy it, most likely. Only one target.

Nagato's was weak in comparison.

When gravity get's strong enough, things tear to shreds inside the gravity.

 

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Pretty interesting idea about CT

Though wasn't Kaguya able to do IT without the moon, since Hagoromo created it right before he died and she had already used it prior.

this^. she used the tree that produced the chakra fruit
 

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Nagato's was weak in comparison.

When gravity get's strong enough, things tear to shreds inside the gravity.



Inside the gravity? That's.... a strange statement. Gravity is simply a force that is the result of some body possessing mass. How is something inside gravity? But if you mean inside the gravitational field, let's see this. That CT would have a great gravitational force, which means that it would pull things "strongly" and fast, very fast. And it would be hard to move, considering that gravitational force pulling you.
But I think they'd be able to make it. They made those atacks really fast, and they don't even have to aim.
 

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Inside the gravity? That's.... a strange statement. Gravity is simply a force that is the result of some body possessing mass. How is something inside gravity? But if you mean inside the gravitational field, let's see this. That CT would have a great gravitational force, which means that it would pull things "strongly" and fast, very fast. And it would be hard to move, considering that gravitational force pulling you.
But I think they'd be able to make it. They made those atacks really fast, and they don't even have to aim.

Things tear inside a very strong gravitational field. All things are destored well before they enter a black hole for instance. Same for dense stars.

Anything with strong gravity can tear things apart. Sometimes down to the molecular level.

And gravity is undodgable. Meaning Naruto and Sasuke would have to react at the speed of light to make a difference.
 

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Things tear inside a very strong gravitational field. All things are destored well before they enter a black hole for instance. Same for dense stars.

Anything with strong gravity can tear things apart. Sometimes down to the molecular level.

And gravity is undodgable. Meaning Naruto and Sasuke would have to react at the speed of light to make a difference.

But there is no way that madara's chibaku tensei would have nearly enough gravitational force for such thing to happen. Now I know what you're talking about. But it's not even close, not even close to being to even close.
 

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But there is no way that madara's chibaku tensei would have nearly enough gravitational force for such thing to happen. Now I know what you're talking about. But it's not even close, not even close to being to even close.

They tore trillions of tons of rock seperately. Just imagine if they were one. That would be too much. Not saying it's a black hole, but it's still pulls strongly.
 
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