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uzumakis are relatives of senju but not from senju lineage....have you forgotten those days when hashirama made agreements with uzumaki tribe...their symbol is different for god sake...does hashirama possess chakra binding chains of gedo mazou where as all uzumaki have this ability
 

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I hope you've given up on the "Sage was Uzumaki" debacle.
 

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yay! not even a theory just correct.
 

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I would also like to point out the misconception on Zetsu's statement in 606:

There is a great misconception in Zetsu's statement in chapter 606 saying that Nagato is a descendant of the Senjus because he is of Senju Lineage:

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It is not Zetsu's statement that is erroneous but the interpretation of others, if we take the translation of lineage based on the context of Zetsu's statement in conjunction with Kushina's statement in a previous chapter, the most accurate meaning of lineage, based on context, is the anthropological definition of the word: Kinship/Consanguinity:

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Kushina said the Uzumakis and Senjus were distant relatives, the true intended meaning of the word "lineage" based on the context of Zetsu's statement was : Consanguine of being related by blood, not Nagato descending from the Senjus : Nagato is a blood relative (lineage) of the Senju.

If the Senjus and Uzumakis descended from the same ancestor (Younger Son) then they will be close/immediate relatives, not distant relatives like Kushina said, which would contradict her statement and Manga canon, so it's logical to assume that the present day Uzumakis are "cousins" to both Senju and Uchiha since they did not descend from Rikudou himself but from Rikudou's relatives.

Also the original Japanese text of Zetsu in 606 is this:

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The original Japanese word that Zetsu used was "血縁" or Ketsuen which translates as "Blood Relative" NOT 子孫 or Shison which means descendant.

Anyone who can read Japanese will tell you that Zetsu's statement only meant blood relations but not pertaining to descent:

Then you should also understand what the SENJU Lineage means. Meaning the Uzumaki from the lineage of the senju. KUSHINA compared the CLANS of HASHIRAMA SENJU and the UZUMAKI clan of that time. Nowhere did she compare the bloodline.

Naruto represents the Senju. Mere coincidence that with Kurama he gets the body of the top Senju (Hashirama)?

Senju Blood was divided into 2 clans. The Senju clan and the Uzumaki clan. The Senju clan formed over time..
 

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This makes sense, I like it.


...Still waiting for the Sage to pop into Naruto's Subconscious and give him guidance. Or at least let him retain some memories of how he defeated the juubi previously in his life since Naruto is the Sag'es Reincarnation. Idk, I just want to see Rikudo Sennin talk, that's all I want, not too much to ask is it?
 

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Well I will say one thing ..... Ridoku Sage's Smithing teacher was surely drunk when he gave swordsmithing lessons, bad handle, bad grip, bad support, bad design, no proper cutting edge and not to mention it looks more like a staff than a sword ... no wonder it broke so easily.
 

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Still going on about this Sage/ Uzamaki thing? lol I guess it's best that you ride it out until the end. You don't want all this ignorant defending to go in vein now.
 

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So, from the Sage was an Uzumaki to now the Sage IS Naruto Uzumaki.

Uh huh. Riding out....
 

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Still going on about this Sage/ Uzamaki thing? lol I guess it's best that you ride it out until the end. You don't want all this ignorant defending to go in vein now.

To think you used to be one of my more disliked members.
 

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Someone pointed out to me in the other forum that the latest chapter reminded him of Harry Potter and the Elder Wand, that the wand cannot harm its master when used against him. Lol
 

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Makes sense. Now if Naruto has the same exact soul as S06P, then it would be unfortunate since we would not be able see them converse. Oh well.
 

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sword can not hurt naruto it is man sword weilded by child
 

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Makes sense. Now if Naruto has the same exact soul as S06P, then it would be unfortunate since we would not be able see them converse. Oh well.

Actually it's still possible, the previous life (Hagoromo) could've left a "recording" to converse with his current incarnation, a recording like what Kushina and Minato left inside Naruto.
 
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