[Question] The Strawhats vs. Whitebeard

[Love Cook]

People who think that 9 strawhats are stronger than all the people Whitebeard fought at Marineford

Even IF Luffy would be able to bear Doffy now, which I don't see happening. Then it would be just Luffy who is at that level, Zoro and Sanji follow at small distance and the rest are basically irrelevant in this fight.

Don't forget that they can't just attack freely, If Whitebeard is about to kill usopp, chopper, robin or someone else they need to defend too. His power is waaaay to destructive for the strawhats at this point. he is so durable, that even if the strawhats got some hits in he would just keep going.

 

[Hijey]

oh how ppl up here overestimate WB and underastimate Luffy, Zoro and Sanji ... actually all of the SHs it's just that these 3 are mostly relevant in this discussion

Don't worry, your beloved Garp and the other top tiers can do it too.

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You're overestimating the M3 if you think that as they are right now can give WB a good fight. DD and Law shat their pants because a top tier merely tested his abilities. Aokiji casually made DD pant like a helpless kiddo. One of WB hits made an Admiral of all people almost lose consciousness and during the war he destroyed any VA that approached him and that's the league the M3 are at currently. Pretty sure we can all agree that any of the current M3 can destroy the whole crew 2 years ago, it's the same here. Non M3 would probably be destroyed by one long ranged attack. Once the M3 get WBs attention, they will hopelessly wait there to taste a quake punch.

Whitebeard murders here.....

Yay, the two of us are on the same page for once

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

People who think that 9 strawhats are stronger than all the people Whitebeard fought at Marineford

Even IF Luffy would be able to bear Doffy now, which I don't see happening. Then it would be just Luffy who is at that level, Zoro and Sanji follow at small distance and the rest are basically irrelevant in this fight.

Don't forget that they can't just attack freely, If Whitebeard is about to kill usopp, chopper, robin or someone else they need to defend too. His power is waaaay to destructive for the strawhats at this point. he is so durable, that even if the strawhats got some hits in he would just keep going.

So if the Strawhats cannot defeat anyone Whitebeard fought (including the characters he One shotted and fodderized) then what was the point of the time skip?

 

[Avinash012]

So if the Strawhats cannot defeat anyone Whitebeard fought (including the characters he One shotted and fodderized) then what was the point of the time skip?

True but Ray is a 100 times stronger than pre TS Luffy,if Ray is 100X stronger at that time and so is any Admiral,Post TS Luffy is about 10-15 times stronger then pre TS Luffy & same goes for Zoro and Sanji.

I can't see them taking on an Admiral yet,the whole crew needs to go all out to beat an Admiral/M3 needs to go super all out to barely take on an Admiral IMO.

Also I don't think we can put Luffy on Admiral level just bcoz he'll defeat Joker,Luffy can't beat Joker in a fair battle.
Only plot shield can save him.

 

[Love Cook]

So if the Strawhats cannot defeat anyone Whitebeard fought (including the characters he One shotted and fodderized) then what was the point of the time skip?

So your saying that Luffy is basically ready to call himself a yonkou crew now ?

Now i'm certain I can't take you serious anymore, totally lost your credibility in the last couple of threads you posted in.

 

[Avinash012]

So your saying that Luffy is basically ready to call himself a yonkou crew now ?

Now i'm certain I can't take you serious anymore, totally lost your credibility in the last couple of threads you posted in.

I can't see anything wrong with what Rinne said,his point perfectly makes sense,U can say that if he said that anyone of SH's/anyone of M3 can take on an Admiral but he said that the whole crew/M3 can take on an Admiral level fighter,really ,if they can't stand upto an Admiral then what is the point of TS & training?

IMO M3 stands a fair chance against an Admiral,I don't know whether they can or not though.

 

[crono0929]

Don't worry, your beloved Garp and the other top tiers can do it too.

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You're overestimating the M3 if you think that as they are right now can give WB a good fight. DD and Law shat their pants because a top tier merely tested his abilities. Aokiji casually made DD pant like a helpless kiddo. One of WB hits made an Admiral of all people almost lose consciousness and during the war he destroyed any VA that approached him and that's the league the M3 are at currently. Pretty sure we can all agree that any of the current M3 can destroy the whole crew 2 years ago, it's the same here. Non M3 would probably be destroyed by one long ranged attack. Once the M3 get WBs attention, they will hopelessly wait there to taste a quake punch.




Yay, the two of us are on the same page for once

yeah, finally

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if luffy beats DD, big deal, its not like DD confronted whitebeard, he only stopped a distracted Jozu and bounced.

Sick Whitebeard its still too much for the Straw hats.....but its just a matter of time until they surpass him.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

So your saying that Luffy is basically ready to call himself a yonkou crew now ?

Now i'm certain I can't take you serious anymore, totally lost your credibility in the last couple of threads you posted in.

No. I'm saying that Rayleigh's intention was so that the SH's would train so that together as a crew they will never face a defeat against another individual (not a crew, just individual).

You lost your credibility by ignoring Manga facts and attempting to insult or belittle anyone you disagree with.

 

[Love Cook]

I can't see anything wrong with what Rinne said,his point perfectly makes sense,U can say that if he said that anyone of SH's/anyone of M3 can take on an Admiral but he said that the whole crew/M3 can take on an Admiral level fighter,really ,if they can't stand upto an Admiral then what is the point of TS & training?

IMO M3 stands a fair chance against an Admiral,I don't know whether they can or not though.

That's not what he is saying, he is indirectly saying that they should be able to beat WB, since they should be able to defeat anyone who WB was able to beat.

This thread is still SH's vs WB not SH's vs Lonz

No. I'm saying that Rayleigh's intention was so that the SH's would train so that together as a crew they will never face a defeat against another individual (not a crew, just individual).

You lost your credibility by ignoring Manga facts and attempting to insult or belittle anyone you disagree with.

Ray's intention ? If anything it was Dragon's intention to split them up like that. Ray never met the other 8 during training. What do Chopper, Usopp, Nami, Robin and Brook bring to the table vs WB ? Karate point and trampolia >.> ?

Very creative comeback by the way, but copy pasting is your forte because you have been saying the same weird things in every topic.

 

[crono0929]

That's not what he is saying, he is indirectly saying that they should be able to beat WB, since they should be able to defeat anyone who WB was able to beat.

This thread is still SH's vs WB not SH's vs Lonz




Ray's intention ? If anything it was Dragon's intention to split them up like that. Ray never met the other 8 during training. What do Chopper, Usopp, Nami, Robin and Brook bring to the table vs WB ? Karate point and trampolia >.> ?

Very creative comeback by the way, but copy pasting is your forte because you have been saying the same weird things in every topic.

That one made me laugh!!

thats why i said before that Oda needs to bring more STRONG members into the SHs, FVCK that M3 Crap.

 

[Hexuze]

oh how ppl up here overestimate WB and underastimate Luffy, Zoro and Sanji ... actually all of the SHs it's just that these 3 are mostly relevant in this discussion

Overestimate? What are you talking about lol. The SH's won't even be able to push WB near his death due to his monstrous defensive capabilities (He took blows from the admirals + BB's crew + squardo's stab to be taken down). I believe Hijey was exaggerating just a bit there but it would be a low-diff. fight on WB's part. King haki will already take down everybody besides M3/Franky and WB can easily just wreck all of them with his DF. His DF had the ability to destroy the world at one point, the destructive feats that the SH's posses aren't even enough to be on the same power scale as WB's. Also you have to realize that it took all three admirals to block one of WB's DF attacks... I seriously doubt the M3 at that level to block an attack of a yonko. (Let alone defeat one)

Also think logically, if the SH's can take down old sick WB then their chance of taking down Kaido would be relatively pretty high. (Law already established the odds for taking down Kaido are low even with the help of his crew)

The SH's aren't near that level as a whole, remember we still have a good 8 years to go, not 3 years.