[Question] The Strawhats vs. Whitebeard

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ROFL XD

I seriously hope you're joking. The SH's can't even take down an admiral atm lol.
Wasn't Rayleigh's intention for the two year training : so that the Strawhats won't be helpless against big shots e.g. Kizaru (an Admiral), if the Strawhats couldn't beat an Admiral then the whole point of the timeskip would be undermined.
 

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Wasn't Rayleigh's intention for the two year training : so that the Strawhats won't be helpless against big shots e.g. Kizaru (an Admiral), if the Strawhats couldn't beat an Admiral then the whole point of the timeskip would be undermined.

Yes/No. See rayleigh's intention was to teach Luffy haki so he can fight against strong Logia users (Kizaru) so if this was to happen again he would have a chance against them. Wb isn't a logia so it doesn't really work there. WB f*cked up Akainu, people said it was because he was caught off guard but that's his fault for a lack of observation haki. Anyways WB>strongest admiral ( Akainu Pre-TS). IMO the SH's haven't progressed that far to take down a yonko...
 

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please, the whitebeard who was fighting all three admirals at once an who beat 3 vice admirals with one hit i'm pretty sure whitebeard has this
 

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Do you guys think bartolomeo's barriers will make a difference in this fight?
 

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Do you guys think bartolomeo's barriers will make a difference in this fight?

I doubt it for two reasons

WB is a monster haki user
His attack seem to just happen at a certain point isntead of travelling so WB could simply use it from behind Barto
 

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3 admirals would rape WB, he got a pretty bad beating from Akainu alone

If all 3 m3o were admiral lvl they could easily defeat WB

I didn't said otherwise,even 2 admirals rapes the dude but Akainu never land a blow on WB unless he got pain in his ass & without that stab the story would be different.
 

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Yes/No. See rayleigh's intention was to teach Luffy haki so he can fight against strong Logia users (Kizaru) so if this was to happen again he would have a chance against them. Wb isn't a logia so it doesn't really work there. WB f*cked up Akainu, people said it was because he was caught off guard but that's his fault for a lack of observation haki. Anyways WB>strongest admiral ( Akainu Pre-TS). IMO the SH's haven't progressed that far to take down a yonko...
I'm pretty certain that teaching Haki was a biproduct of Rayleighs intention. You pretty much repeated what I said (@bold). If Luffy stood a chance against Borsalino then surely the M3 could take an Admiral. Are you implying that Haki isn't a big player in this? Haki is the BIGGEST player in any fight consisting of New World characters.
 

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ROFL XD

I seriously hope you're joking. The SH's can't even take down an admiral atm lol.

that would make very little sense if the monster trio can't take on an admiral what the hell are they supposed to do in the NW and how the hell are they gonna reach Raftel?

have you seen the enemies lined up and waiting for them? they are freaking insane and Dofy seems like he is on the weaker side, there are 4 Yonkou, 4 Admirals, the first mates, other Sichibukai, probably new charaters

if they don't start taking on them soon than OP isn't gonna end for 30 years (not that I would mind but Oda wouldn't be able to do it, I know he is the God of Lore but almost 50 years would just be too much :))

Yes/No. See rayleigh's intention was to teach Luffy haki so he can fight against strong Logia users (Kizaru) so if this was to happen again he would have a chance against them. Wb isn't a logia so it doesn't really work there. WB f*cked up Akainu, people said it was because he was caught off guard but that's his fault for a lack of observation haki. Anyways WB>strongest admiral ( Akainu Pre-TS). IMO the SH's haven't progressed that far to take down a yonko...

the point was not to be defeated again and be able to take on the new world, 2 years just to be able to hit a logia would make no sense

please, the whitebeard who was fighting all three admirals at once an who beat 3 vice admirals with one hit i'm pretty sure whitebeard has this

not once did WB do this, actually he got pretty f'd up by Akainu alone and only his anger/rush after ace's death allowed him to kick Akainu's ass

Do you guys think bartolomeo's barriers will make a difference in this fight?

why exactly is barto in there?
 
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why exactly is barto in there?

just because i thought his barrier DF would come in handy, since it was able to tank the kings punch, which was to to overpower yonko's.
 

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WB quickly destroys the M3 then takes a nap and beats everyone else.
 

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WB quickly destroys the M3 then takes a nap and beats everyone else.

oh how ppl up here overestimate WB and underastimate Luffy, Zoro and Sanji ... actually all of the SHs it's just that these 3 are mostly relevant in this discussion
 

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oh how ppl up here overestimate WB and underastimate Luffy, Zoro and Sanji ... actually all of the SHs it's just that these 3 are mostly relevant in this discussion
It's shocking isn't it?

If Luffy takes down Doflamingo single handedly people will start saying that Luffy is admiral tier... :|
Some people need to learn how to powerscale AND logically compare characters.
 

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Whitebeard murders here.....
 

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This topic.

Strawhats win high diff....
 

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It's shocking isn't it?

If Luffy takes down Doflamingo single handedly people will start saying that Luffy is admiral tier... :|
Some people need to learn how to powerscale AND logically compare characters.

I think that a lot of ppl compare OP too much with other Shonen like DBZ and Naruto where the end powers are just ridiculous compared to the beginning (Kishi even (supposedly) said he made Madara too strong and does not know how to defeat him)

Like buu who could solo everything up too the end of cell arc with a fingernail, or madara who could 1 shot the entire part 1 of Naruto
 

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I think that a lot of ppl compare OP too much with other Shonen like DBZ and Naruto where the end powers are just ridiculous compared to the beginning (Kishi even (supposedly) said he made Madara too strong and does not know how to defeat him)
Kishi is a special case. He should be known as a butcher, he destroyed his own Manga by powerscaling far too much in too short a time. He should've foreshadowed the EOS power levels like Oda has done via the Marineford War. The thing is One Piece is similar to Shonens in terms of development of main characters strength.
 

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Kishi is a special case. He should be known as a butcher, he destroyed his own Manga by powerscaling far too much in too short a time. He should've foreshadowed the EOS power levels like Oda has done via the Marineford War. The thing is One Piece is similar to Shonens in terms of development of main characters strength.

I agree that as far as power levels go they were completely butchered after the Pain arc
 
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