The Seal of Will ¤ Sasuke's Secrets Revealed!

[Shinato]

How can Kaguya absorb taijutsu or sealing jutsu or genjutsu? How can anyone?
"Black Zetsu stated that Kaguya had absorbed every know Jutsu in the world, meaning all Genjutsu, Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, Senjutsu and so on."
Where did u read/get this from?
:vincent:

Anyways you are stating the obvious, so ur thread is pointless

You obviously don't get the meaning behind what Black Zetsu said, so let me explain. He said that Kaguya had absorbed all Jutsu in the world, Genjutsu, Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Senjutsu, Sealing Jutsu, they are all part of the term Jutsu. Meaning she has knowledge and is able to use every single one of them, that means she is able to counter all of them. I never said she could absorb Taijutsu or Genjutsu. I said that she can counter it. (Huge difference right there.) I also get that from what Black Zetsu stated. On another note, are you saying that its completely obvious that Hagoromo and Hamura had a mental battle in the past of which Kaguay will do as well? Then you must mean that there are no other possible outcomes of the story, which I ask to you. Why is that?

 

[Antichrist]

what mental battle?

It means TNJ ( talk no Jutsu ) .

 

[Six Paths of Logic]

You obviously don't get the meaning behind what Black Zetsu said, so let me explain. He said that Kaguya had absorbed all Jutsu in the world, Genjutsu, Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Senjutsu, Sealing Jutsu, they are all part of the term Jutsu. Meaning she has knowledge and is able to use every single one of them, that means she is able to counter all of them. I never said she could absorb Taijutsu or Genjutsu. I said that she can counter it. (Huge difference right there.) I also get that from what Black Zetsu stated. On another note, are you saying that its completely obvious that Hagoromo and Hamura had a mental battle in the past of which Kaguay will do as well? Then you must mean that there are no other possible outcomes of the story, which I ask to you. Why is that?

Provide a manga scan of Black Zetsu stating that or else u r just making stuff up.

Jutsus that came after Kaguya and Hagoromo/Hamura's era are not know by Kaguya (unless the info Black Zetus has was/is passed on to her), she is just the progenitor of chakra--and not ninjutsu.
Your mental battle theory was not what i was referring to.

 

[senjusana]

Nagato got TNJ'd.Obito got TNJ'd.Madara may get TNJ'd by Sasuke.Kaguya is no less than all of them.She too will get TNJ'd.
Naruto series is all about will to change and peace..blah blah!

Nice thread .

 

[Sarahmint]

On what level of "a mental battle" will happen? Stupid dialogue, or profound philosophical discourse?

 

[Byron123]

Just a little detail. Black Zetsu wasn't capable of controlling Obito all the time easily so I don't think it's correct to say that his will is stronger than Obito's.

 

[Xāvî1]

this could be possible.

 

[Shinato]

Provide a manga scan of Black Zetsu stating that or else u r just making stuff up.

Jutsus that came after Kaguya and Hagoromo/Hamura's era are not know by Kaguya (unless the info Black Zetus has was/is passed on to her), she is just the progenitor of chakra--and not ninjutsu.
Your mental battle theory was not what i was referring to.

Spoiler You must be registered for see images Spoiler You must be registered for see images One translation states that she has absorbed, while the other states that she can absorb. Yet, both state a few things alike. For example, they both state that every known jutsu is completely pointless, which is why Naruto used a jutsu he had been practising in secret. A Jutsu that Kaguya or Black Zetsu had never seen before. Madara and Black Zetsu shared information and knowledge without saying a word, the same goes most likely for Kaguya and Black Zetsu. (Meaning every Jutsu he knows, she knows.) That means that Kaguya has knowledge of every jutsu created and witnessed by Black Zetsu, which is most likely 99% of them. (Meaning she knows the weakness, effects and how to counter every known jutsu.) Jutsu, not Ninjutsu. Both translations stated; Jutsu. The common name for all techniques used in the Narutoverse. Against Obito and Madara, it was only stated that Ninjutsu had no effect, they never used the term Jutsu. Kaguya is fully able to counter 99% of all Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Taijutsu, Sealing Jutsu and so on. Also, if the mental battle wasn't what you were referring to, (which is the main point of this thread and theory.). Then your statement saying that my thread is pointless, is faulty and pointless in its own. So again, what are/were your point?

 

[Shinato]

Just a little detail. Black Zetsu wasn't capable of controlling Obito all the time easily so I don't think it's correct to say that his will is stronger than Obito's.

Obito's will didn't last longer than a few minutes at best, his will was/is strong but it cannot outlast the will of Kaguya. Will isn't about how strong you wish for something, its about how far you'll go for it and never to give up on it. That battle, Obito lost.

 

[Byron123]

Obito's will didn't last longer than a few minutes at best, his will was/is strong but it cannot outlast the will of Kaguya. Will isn't about how strong you wish for something, its about how far you'll go for it and never to give up on it. That battle, Obito lost.

But when Madara had first tried to control him with Kaguya's will aka BZ, he was able to withstand it completely. Also, when Obito controlled, he was extremely weak and yet even in that occasion he was capable to do it once again, for little time as you said, but he nonetheless did it, while a fully powered-up Madara Jin couldn't hold his own even for a sec.