The Sage's very existence irks me

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*Thread says the "Sage's very existence irks me"*

This is what we call taking an argument out of context, children. The person I was replying to asked me to blame Madara. In other words, he wanted me to blame a real world thing on a fictional character. But what irks me about the Sage is that he, as a fictional construct, exists in his current form. Logic children, let's try it.
 
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You've read way too much Greek mythology my friend. When the rinnegan was shown, Kishi flat out said through characters that it was the eye of the sage if six paths. That doesn't mean Kishi has to show the guys' entire backstory for the rinnegan to be valid. It literally means, the sage has these eyes.

And the Greeks said that the Lighting was Zeus'! That doesn't mean that the lighting was actually Zeus'! Zeus was a legend that these people believed in to explain something they didn't know the answer to. The Sage existed at first to fill the same roll. In reality, this mad the Rinnegan much more mysterious, and that was better thematically. You can't take what characters say literally. They're not perfect and all knowing, and they say things that are wrong all the time.
 

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I'm hoenstly not. I'm a person who loved this story leading up until the end of the Pain arc, after which I feel the manga was artificially extended to make more money.

If the manga stopped there, there would be more plot holes than there are now.

And the Greeks said that the Lighting was Zeus'! That doesn't mean that the lighting was actually Zeus'! Zeus was a legend that these people believed in to explain something they didn't know the answer to. The Sage existed at first to fill the same roll. In reality, this mad the Rinnegan much more mysterious, and that was better thematically. You can't take what characters say literally. They're not perfect and all knowing, and they say things that are wrong all the time.

What you're trying to say is something that should have been said several arc's ago. I understand what yore saying and in some way you're correct. However, we are way too far along in the story to even acknowledge what you say.
 
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If the manga stopped there, there would be more plot holes than there are now.



What you're trying to say is something that should have been said several arc's ago. I understand what yore saying and in some way you're correct. However, we are way too far along in the story to even acknowledge what you say.

I'm not saying it should have stopped right at the end of it. I'm saying that everything was leading up to it, and that it needed about 2 arcs to form a falling action (including Sasuke vs. Naruto, ending in Sasuke's tragic death that motivates Naruto to advocate even harder for general peace). Obviously some things needed to be cleaned up, but the majority of the plot leading up to that point was concluded with Pain's death. The oro line would have been concluded, the Akatsuki would be dead. The only real mystery left would be Tobi's identity, and I honestly think that leaving that as ambiguous would be best. Just have him as a vengeful Uchiha who Itachi missed. It would be a lot more effective.

And I disagree. It's not like we're actually in the modern day of Naruto. We can go back and critique old stuff, it's how we learn. And I usually don't get pissed off about elements until I see them fail. I was on board with the World War until I saw what it became.
 
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how is it shit its probably the best thing watch pain arc over again Nagato states he was real and was a decendant of him so how is it bs

Well that claim isn't BS anymore. Before, when the Sage was just a legend, it was just Pain's god-complex. But now, that's validated. Pain is an Uzumaki, remember.
 

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I'm not saying it should have stopped right at the end of it. I'm saying that everything was leading up to it, and that it needed about 2 arcs to form a falling action (including Sasuke vs. Naruto, ending in Sasuke's tragic death that motivates Naruto to advocate even harder for general peace). Obviously some things needed to be cleaned up, but the majority of the plot leading up to that point was concluded with Pain's death. The oro line would have been concluded, the Akatsuki would be dead. The only real mystery left would be Tobi's identity, and I honestly think that leaving that as ambiguous would be best. Just have him as a vengeful Uchiha who Itachi missed. It would be a lot more effective.

And I disagree. It's not like we're actually in the modern day of Naruto. We can go back and critique old stuff, it's how we learn. And I usually don't get pissed off about elements until I see them fail. I was on board with the World War until I saw what it became.

I didn't mean you can't critique it, I merely mean that it's like trying to form a theory about something that happened two arcs ago and being completely wrong about it. We all know your theory is wrong because we are two arcs ahead in the story and your theory is not true. If you had said that the sage isn't relevant to the plot besides his eyes and the bijuu during the pain arc, people may have agreed with you.
 

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What are you trying to accomplish exactly? Are you hoping somehow reality will bend to your crying and make things "right", you are complaining about "Bad writing" in a manga for 14+ audience. You are arguing with people who are confused why your even upset, if a comic has you this upset, time to give it up and go home man. I suggest reading something from well known and respect authors.
 

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I was really hyped when Hagoromo finally appeared. How can you not like that old geezer.

You thought Hagoromo didn't exist? Lel.
 

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People like you seriously need to stop your *****ing and put the manga down, never read it again. That's the only way you'll be happy again or normal.


Who am I kidding you'll just find something else to ***** about.
 

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Stop crying OP, Noone will care about your butthurtness

buy himself/herself the cream for butthurtness and it will go away
 
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