The reason Oda timeskip > Kishi timeskip

[bigfatloser]

In onepiece, characters develop even when they are not present in many chapters. The timeskip was very interesting because all of the side characters had also developed in interesting ways. You get the feeling a lot has happened in the two year timeskip, and it's implied by 1-2 pages showing things like

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buggy becoming a Shichibukai

Kishi writes a timeskip and only sasuke improves noticeably, every other character is at the same level as before. gaara also improves but not significantly. That's only two characters. Nothing really happens in that time either, other than gaara becoming kage-level. No one does anything interesting or makes any plans. There aren't any new relationships or friendships either: it's like everyone was in stasis for 3 years. A few other rank changes happen but they are pretty trivial. What a boring time-skip.

 

[Cosman]

I think the purpose of all that was for "that jutsu"

I agree it was really lame that two arcs later Naruto needed another training arc, but I'm cool I guess. But to be fair, those developments in one piece come out like a hundred chapters later. Oda takes his sweet little time getting things out, so I won't give him too much credit. Kishi got right to the point and didn't waste time

And gaara arc >>>>>>>> fishman island by leaps and bounds. Fishman island was garbage.

That being said, Buggy ftmw!

 

[NarutoB]

I liked Naruto's more.

 

[Ōkami]

Another notable reason is the fact that he did it at a way later chapter which allowed it to go smoothly.

 

[Fodder#5]

I was hoping Naruto would be a lot stronger. Speaking of One Piece, Zoro might now be stronger than Luffy. He hasn't hurt for real yet and simply dominated all of his opponents

 

[Narutohokage7]

Both were awesome but I agree, Luffy and the crew came back from training far stronger, Naruto came back from his without that much of an upgrade, but then again, that is Narutos story for you.

I was hoping Naruto would be a lot stronger. Speaking of One Piece, Zoro might now be stronger than Luffy. He hasn't hurt for real yet and simply dominated all of his opponents

Zoro is a boss for sure, but I don't think he would be stronger than Luffy and let him be the captain still. Zoro respects Luffy so much because of his strength to protect the crew imo.

 

[Ōkami]

I was hoping Naruto would be a lot stronger. Speaking of One Piece, Zoro might now be stronger than Luffy. He hasn't hurt for real yet and simply dominated all of his opponents

Naw, The monster trio has a set order.

 

[bigfatloser]

I think the purpose of all that was for "that jutsu"

I agree it was really lame that two arcs later Naruto needed another training arc, but I'm cool I guess. But to be fair, those developments in one piece come out like a hundred chapters later. Oda takes his sweet little time getting things out, so I won't give him too much credit. Kishi got right to the point and didn't waste time

And gaara arc >>>>>>>> fishman island by leaps and bounds. Fishman island was garbage.

That being said, Buggy ftmw!

This is what was so annoying. naruto 'trained' for 3 years but he really didn't seem any stronger. then he needs another training session over like 3 days and masters rasengan. it felt so dumb.

I liked Naruto's more.

why?

Another notable reason is the fact that he did it at a way later chapter which allowed it to go smoothly.

I think narutos could have gone better if kishi had planned more for the timeskip instead of just putting one or two things and redesigning the characters.

I was hoping Naruto would be a lot stronger. Speaking of One Piece, Zoro might now be stronger than Luffy. He hasn't hurt for real yet and simply dominated all of his opponents

I was also hoping naruto would improve

 

[Narutohokage7]

This is what was so annoying. naruto 'trained' for 3 years but he really didn't seem any stronger. then he needs another training session over like 3 days and masters rasengan. it felt so dumb.



why?



I think narutos could have gone better if kishi had planned more for the timeskip instead of just putting one or two things and redesigning the characters.



I was also hoping naruto would improve

Yea, Naruto should of had SOME wind jutsus perhaps, better summoning skills, basiclly a fighting style near Jiraiyas but without the possiblity of Sage Mode or Rasenshuriken yet. If it was frogs and some combinations with them and stuff that he came away with I would be happy.

 

[NarutoB]

This is what was so annoying. naruto 'trained' for 3 years but he really didn't seem any stronger. then he needs another training session over like 3 days and masters rasengan. it felt so dumb.



why?



I think narutos could have gone better if kishi had planned more for the timeskip instead of just putting one or two things and redesigning the characters.



I was also hoping naruto would improve

I have a lot of reasons. Gaara became Kazekage, Neji became Jounin, etc. Also the Naruto characters were like 13 in part one, I wanted them older.

 

[bigfatloser]

Yea, Naruto should of had SOME wind jutsus perhaps, better summoning skills, basiclly a fighting style near Jiraiyas but without the possiblity of Sage Mode or Rasenshuriken yet. If it was frogs and some combinations with them and stuff that he came away with I would be happy.

Naruto literally learned nothing over the time-skip other then 'that jutsu.'

his fighting style was the same, he was better at it, sure, but still just sc -> rasengan. he had no new techs or jutsu. he wasn't any stronger. what did he even do over three years besides grow taller?

 

[Cosman]

Like I said before guys, I think "that jutsu" is going to be the explanation as to what went down those three years. We actually don't know much about what Naruto did with Jiraiya other than the fact that he had Naruto's seal loosened to allow kyuubi chakra to come out. All this so he could perform "that jutsu".

I think that was Kishi's way of making it so if/when Naruto pulls out some random ass jutsu that he shouldn't be able to perform, nobody screams "ASSPULL!" "BULLSHIT!"...

 

[bigfatloser]

I have a lot of reasons. Gaara became Kazekage, Neji became Jounin, etc. Also the Naruto characters were like 13 in part one, I wanted them older.

yeah, but the character didn't really develop. the story didn't really move forward in any way besides Gaara becoming Kazekage. I won't try and tell you that your opinion is wrong but so much more happened in the one piece timeskip; I have to ask, do you even read one piece?

Like I said before guys, I think "that jutsu" is going to be the explanation as to what went down those three years. We actually don't know much about what Naruto did with Jiraiya other than the fact that he had Naruto's seal loosened to allow kyuubi chakra to come out. All this so he could perform "that jutsu".

I think that was Kishi's way of making it so if/when Naruto pulls out some random ass jutsu that he shouldn't be able to perform, nobody screams "ASSPULL!" "BULLSHIT!"...

honestly, I think kishi has either forgotten about 'that jutsu' or written it out of the story.

 

[Wolfus]

Agreed. Naruto came back almost as the same thing as before the time-skip. He barely improved. But then, in part 2, with less than an year, he masters rasen-shuriken, sage mode, kyuubi chakra mode, and bijuu mode, but after the time-skip, a 3 year time skip, he barely improved.

 

[Narutohokage7]

Naruto literally learned nothing over the time-skip other then 'that jutsu.'

his fighting style was the same, he was better at it, sure, but still just sc -> rasengan. he had no new techs or jutsu. he wasn't any stronger. what did he even do over three years besides grow taller?

Don't forget he trained to break free from gen-jutsu for that to only end up badly when trapped in Itachis..

Jiraiya should of worked on his toad summoning skills, like got him to summon all the different types, have them fight along side him. Plenty of strong shinobis do it, so why shouldn't Naruto? Bigger Rasengans should of just come as part of his development naturally, not as some chance of going nuts when using it because of Kyuubi chakra thing.

Perhaps, even the one tailed cloak should of been unlocked, that would of given him a lot of power without really overpowering him at that stage.

 

[NarutoB]

yeah, but the character didn't really develop. the story didn't really move forward in any way besides Gaara becoming Kazekage. I won't try and tell you that your opinion is wrong but so much more happened in the one piece timeskip; I have to ask, do you even read one piece?

Yes I do read it.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Oda timeskip>Kishi timeskip by leaps and bounds.

All of Kishi's characters remained the same. All they had was different rank and clothing that didnt make a difference.

Oda's characters had a huge upgrade and a slight personality change to one of their traits(zoro being more cold-hearted, Sanji having a bigger temper etc.). Not to mention that there was a MAJOR change to the outside world during the timeskip. All Kishi did was make Gaara a kage.

 

[6ari8]

I think the purpose of all that was for "that jutsu"

I agree it was really lame that two arcs later Naruto needed another training arc, but I'm cool I guess. But to be fair, those developments in one piece come out like a hundred chapters later. Oda takes his sweet little time getting things out, so I won't give him too much credit. Kishi got right to the point and didn't waste time

And gaara arc >>>>>>>> fishman island by leaps and bounds. Fishman island was garbage.

That being said, Buggy ftmw!

My thoughts exactly. And just look how long did Fishman island arc took, about 50 fvcking chapters without any solid info. I can't really show how much I disliked that arc; it almost ruined the whole manga for me.

 

[bigfatloser]

Agreed. Naruto came back almost as the same thing as before the time-skip. He barely improved. But then, in part 2, with less than an year, he masters rasen-shuriken, sage mode, kyuubi chakra mode, and bijuu mode, but after the time-skip, a 3 year time skip, he barely improved.

I personally think kishi has a hard time developing characters off-panel. Like, if they aren't shown improving, they don't improve. not sure why this is.

 

[Narutohokage7]

honestly, I think kishi has either forgotten about 'that jutsu' or written it out of the story.

I though 'that jutsu' was the big ball rasengan. Remember Jiraiya warned him agaisnt using it.. it would explain it since he tapped into Kuramas chakra to use it.

Oda timeskip>Kishi timeskip by leaps and bounds.

All of Kishi's characters remained the same. All they had was different rank and clothing that didnt make a difference.

Oda's characters had a huge upgrade and a slight personality change to one of their traits(zoro being more cold-hearted, Sanji having a bigger temper etc.). Not to mention that there was a MAJOR change to the outside world during the timeskip. All Kishi did was make Gaara a kage.

I disagree with Zoro being cold-hearted. Zoro gets the job done and does it well, he still would go with Luffy into hell and back to rescue someone even if it wasn't entirely the best idea.

Sanji, he had bigger pervspasms really and guys, he has had enough of them for a lifetime..