[Theory] The Reason For The Juubi's Eye

[NarutoKage2]

that's not the ems

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madara wanted to use the juubi's power to boost his eyes to the ultimate level his eyes are the rinnegan
in order for infinite tsukuyomi to work they have to have the juubi's eye
obito will do this i dont know what will happen to his ms but his rinnegan will change into this eye

Actually, that's the Juubi's eye since we already know the first 2 circles have 3 tomoes each, while in ch 632 you can detect tomoes on the 3rd circle as well.

And hey,at least give me props for this thread. One of the lesser appreciated theories of mine, is this(in terms of repp)

 

[Transcendence]

Disagree completely. The Juubi was shown with that eye in the flash back of Rikudou's battle. That alone debunks the majority of this premise.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Disagree completely. The Juubi was shown with that eye in the flash back of Rikudou's battle. That alone debunks the majority of this premise.

How do you explain the mazos eyes awakening in response to the sealing of a bijjuu then?

Btw, it has been shown in other places as well, all the tomoes are just ambiguous in other scans.

And in that very battle the rikudo was shown with the staff he wielded which Obito got AFTER becoming the jinchuriki.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

How do you explain the mazos eyes awakening in response to the sealing of a bijjuu then?

Btw, it has been shown in other places as well, all the tomoes are just ambiguous in other scans.

And in that very battle the rikudo was shown with the staff he wielded which Obito got AFTER becoming the jinchuriki.

No, Obito's "staff" is merely a replica, molded from the black chakra:

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As you can see Obito's staff is protruding from the black chakra, Rikudou's staff is a real object.

 

[NarutoKage2]

No, Obito's "staff" is merely a replica, molded from the black chakra:

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As you can see Obito's staff is protruding from the black chakra, Rikudou's staff is a real object.

How do you explain obitos staff taking the exact same shape as the rikudos then?

Lol stop being in denial. And i have no idea how you define a real object. Most likely the rikudos staff was also made of that black chakra, no other explanation for it really.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It was shown the Juubi had the "Eye" prior from Rikudou sealing it:

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And this:

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Do you know what Kurama called it? Ame No Hitotsu No Kami (天目一箇神) which literally translates to "One Eyed God" obviously the Eye is a natural part of the Juubi.

 

[valandil988]

Well that nails shut this idea lol.

Great new sig btw Sir Derp

 

[Transcendence]

It was shown the Juubi had the "Eye" prior from Rikudou sealing it:

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And this:

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Do you know what Kurama called it? Ame No Hitotsu No Kami (天目一箇神) which literally translates to "One Eyed God" obviously the Eye is a natural part of the Juubi.

This post just ended your thread.

 

[NarutoKage2]

It was shown the Juubi had the "Eye" prior from Rikudou sealing it:

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And this:

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Do you know what Kurama called it? Ame No Hitotsu No Kami (天目一箇神) which literally translates to "One Eyed God" obviously the Eye is a natural part of the Juubi.

I already explained this point. The rikudo had the staff in that image, which the manga showed was acquired AFTER obito became the juubis jinchuriki. Until we see an actual flashback, no one can say what the juubi looked like before fighting the rikudo. Like how when obito first told of konohas founding the images shown were non canon, as we found out later.

And that proves.........what? That the juubi had an eye. Nothing more

This post just ended your thread.

Lmao what an idiotic thing to say. Derps just mad cuz i took a hit on his theory once, and manga 640-641 doesnt exactly support his hypothesis either.

 

[Transcendence]

Sad. Can't take criticism so he neg reps me. Pathetic.

 

[I t a c h i]

How do you explain obitos staff taking the exact same shape as the rikudos then?

Lol stop being in denial. And i have no idea how you define a real object. Most likely the rikudos staff was also made of that black chakra, no other explanation for it really.

Could have sworn the sage had his staff before he became one with the 10 tails.. Obito got his after getting the tailed beast.. Sages staff is an actual item.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

Great thread

 

[Byron123]

Although I am an uzumaki believer, lol, I like the fact that there are counter arguments. In any case, solve me a question. You suggest that Juubi didn't originally have an eye and that the sage created it in it, in order to cast Izanagi and therefore create the nine tailed beasts. BUT if we cosider that Izanagi is the only way to create things out from nothing, then how the sage created the Juubi's eye in the first place if the tool that was necessary to do it, the juubi's eye, was non existent? Doesn't this contradict your theory?

 

[FearxDeath]

It was shown the Juubi had the "Eye" prior from Rikudou sealing it:

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And this:

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Do you know what Kurama called it? Ame No Hitotsu No Kami (天目一箇神) which literally translates to "One Eyed God" obviously the Eye is a natural part of the Juubi.

Derp is right on this one, you cant ignore things stated multiple times within the manga just because it makes your theory look better, on multiple occasions we see the Juubi's with one eye and being reffered to as the one eyed one.

"Like how when obito first told of konohas founding the images shown were non canon, as we found out later." - You cant compare these 2 situations, in one the manga had just started and Kishi had probably not thought it out further than the first arc, the second is roughly 300+ chapters into what looks to be an ongoing series. I highly doubt Kishi is just throwing information out at random and then changing it on a whim to suit his needs.

"Until we see an actual flashback, no one can say what the juubi looked like before fighting the rikudo." - Fair enough I can back you on this point, if we see a flashback that shows this change that you forsee then I will agree with you. But until then what is shown in the scans are all we have to go on, and that very same scan contradicts your thread, therefore your thread will be wrong up until we see a flashback.

Btw... [

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], This is not the Juubi's eye, it is a man made recreation of the Juubi's eye. As last time I checked the Juubi's center pupil wasnt comprised of the Yin/Yang Symbol. [

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Here is my spin on your premise which is "Why did the Gedo have 9 eyes which just happened to be the number of the Juubi's pupils and the number of tailed beasts"

The Gedo did not exist prior to the use of Izangi, much like a burned peice of paper does not exist prior to the paper being burned. We know that the Sage created the tailed beast and made 9 of them, so why is it easier to believe that the Sage created the Eye of the Juubi, than it is to believe that he created the Gedo? This itself would explain why the Gedo itself has Uzumaki like Symbols all over it [

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], something that was originally spotted by none other than Derp

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You've got an open mind which is nice but you have to refine your ideas alot more before you post them, less you waste your time and ours.

 

[Transcendence]

Derp is right on this one, you cant ignore things stated multiple times within the manga just because it makes your theory look better, on multiple occasions we see the Juubi's with one eye and being reffered to as the one eyed one.

"Like how when obito first told of konohas founding the images shown were non canon, as we found out later." - You cant compare these 2 situations, in one the manga had just started and Kishi had probably not thought it out further than the first arc, the second is roughly 300+ chapters into what looks to be an ongoing series. I highly doubt Kishi is just throwing information out at random and then changing it on a whim to suit his needs.

"Until we see an actual flashback, no one can say what the juubi looked like before fighting the rikudo." - Fair enough I can back you on this point, if we see a flashback that shows this change that you forsee then I will agree with you. But until then what is shown in the scans are all we have to go on, and that very same scan contradicts your thread, therefore your thread will be wrong up until we see a flashback.

Btw... [

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], This is not the Juubi's eye, it is a man made recreation of the Juubi's eye. As last time I checked the Juubi's center pupil wasnt comprised of the Yin/Yang Symbol. [

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].

Here is my spin on your premise which is "Why did the Gedo have 9 eyes which just happened to be the number of the Juubi's pupils and the number of tailed beasts"

The Gedo did not exist prior to the use of Izangi, much like a burned peice of paper does not exist prior to the paper being burned. We know that the Sage created the tailed beast and made 9 of them, so why is it easier to believe that the Sage created the Eye of the Juubi, than it is to believe that he created the Gedo? This itself would explain why the Gedo itself has Uzumaki like Symbols all over it [

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], something that was originally spotted by none other than Derp

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.

You've got an open mind which is nice but you have to refine your ideas alot more before you post them, less you waste your time and ours.

Beautiful post. If Derp didn't end this thread, this most definitely did.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Beautiful post. If Derp didn't end this thread, this most definitely did.

I think it's about time the OP buried this failure of a theory Lol

 

[adeshina365]

It was shown the Juubi had the "Eye" prior from Rikudou sealing it:

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And this:

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Do you know what Kurama called it? Ame No Hitotsu No Kami (天目一箇神) which literally translates to "One Eyed God" obviously the Eye is a natural part of the Juubi.

And we're done here.

Good effort OP, but you're wrong.

 

[AzR]

isnt rikudo a monk? so isnt it something 'common' a monk to have those staff?

 

[NarutoKage2]

The Gedo did not exist prior to the use of Izangi, much like a burned peice of paper does not exist prior to the paper being burned. We know that the Sage created the tailed beast and made 9 of them, so why is it easier to believe that the Sage created the Eye of the Juubi, than it is to believe that he created the Gedo? This itself would explain why the Gedo itself has Uzumaki like Symbols all over it [

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], something that was originally spotted by none other than Derp

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.

You've got an open mind which is nice but you have to refine your ideas alot more before you post them, less you waste your time and ours.

False. The gedo mazo is simply the body of the Juubi, which obviously existed prior to the time the sage used Izanagi;

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And again Obito says its the body of the Juubi:

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'...its actual body was sealed away and blasted into the sky'- Obito.
Note: The Sage used chibaku tensei to blast away the Juubi's body later, however the body itself existed prior to that (obviously) , the only argument even possible after these facts is did the sage make any alterations to that body(shell)? That's the premise of this thread.

Beautiful post. If Derp didn't end this thread, this most definitely did.

Typical Sage=uzumaki bandwagonner response. It was laughable and stupid at first, its just annoying and dumb now.

I think it's about time the OP buried this failure of a theory Lol

Aww, look someone's all butthurt that their theory about the Juubi jinchuriki awakening the rinnegan got sh!tted on by the manga and that i've exposed them.