The real truth about the Sage's Sons and the 6 Paths! (Logic)

[the dark king]

really cool theory i hope i turns out to be true

 

[the dark king]

good job... i like the idea with the 6 sons... this would make a lot of sense! But theres one thing, that is a burden on me.... If there are 6 clans... why are they only in konoha?
1. Senju 2. Uchiha 3. Uzumaki. (4. Hyuga? 5? 6.? )

There should be some in Kirigakure, Kumo.... , too!? There has to be a way, how the different element types where built!?

So maybe the other 3 clans where (a kind of "Kiri-clan" (water) "Iwa-clan" (earth) "Kaze-vlan" (wind) and i think uchiha are fire....)
Maybe this is the way, how the different element users where created? what do you think?

Yeah thats what i think to

 

[SashaUchiha]

True that! I still call it Tobi all the time, and I was a ferrous defender that Tobi could never be Obito! lol

I did once upon a time, believe Tobi was Obito... deceived by wrinkles...

Like I say above, the brother-order misunderstanding... I wanted to make a thread about it, but I get bogged down by the effort... anyway... good work...

 

[uchihamad]

I think the other clans/paths are

hyuunga
uzumaki
Namikaze
and kimimaro's clan

 

[Anub]

I like your theory, but I think you're reading too much into it.

First of all, if this was mentioned I am very sorry, I couldn't read through every post, as I have little spare time atm.

Now to insert my feedback: You're saying that the older son was the only one that received something from the Juubi. It's not true. You said it yourself: one brother has the eyes, one has the powerful chakra. And I don't think their age needs to be argued further, because the whole reason why there was a dispute between the two brothers was because the rightful heir to the throne, the older one, was not picked to replace the sage.

Good logic, but I have to disagree with it this time. Keep up the good work!

 

[SageoftheoneWay]

The two problems: 1) Senju are not about power, but love, which is why Hashi taught the will of fire, 2) that last scan seems more like misinterpretation because it could also be changed to say "two sons of the sage" instead of six paths.

 

[The Alchemist]

Yeah, I don't want to sound cocky but this is the best explanation to Nagato's abilities and the relation between Senju and Uzumaki so far.

You should read this (click link below)

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But great thread. I never thought to incorporate the six paths into my theory. Awesome deduction on your part. + Rep.

 

[Positive Day]

Maybe the Sarutobi clan could be one of the paths? Aren't they known for... something.

 

[LegendaryAce]

I thought the sage gave the son the eyes later on ? Was he born with them?

 

[The Silent Killer]

nyc theory ... i totally agree with you !!!

 

[blue666666]

great read very well thought out

 

[Warrex]

If there are more sons... that might explain where the FU#$! Orochimaru came from (descendant of the weird, goth brother)

 

[ImNoOne]

You should read this (click link below)

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But great thread. I never thought to incorporate the six paths into my theory. Awesome deduction on your part. + Rep.

Wow, can't believe there are still people reading this thread Thanks and nice thread you have there yourself.

 

[Twin Steps]

The six clans are probably the Senju, Uzumaki, Uchiha, Hyuga, Kaguya, and Jugo's clan.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This is long but it's worth reading, I tried to break it as much as I could so please do not give up half way through!

So I was wondering...

What do we know for a fact that can be reliable on?

1st - The Sage had two sons.

2nd - One was born with the eyes of the sage and his powerful chakra, the Elder, the other was born with the sage's body and physical life force, the Younger.

3rd - The Elder brother gave birth to the Uchiha and their powerful chakra and Sharingan. The Younger brother gave birth to the Senju and their large amount of chakra and strong bodies.

These are facts!...

Or are they?

Let's deconstruct these facts form the bottom up, and analyse them with the info given to us by the very same person who was the source to all we know of the two brothers.

As the last is always the first let's start with the third and the second.

The Juubi and his Jinchuriki:
The Sage in order to control the Juubi had to seal the beast inside of himself, therefore becoming (supposedly as this was never actually confirmed) the very first Jinchuriki.

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Later, when he was older, the sage divided the Juubi's chakra into Nine newly created forms. That little resemblance had with the Juubi. But his form was like the scan below shows:

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If we pay attention we will see that the tomoes that compose the famous Sharingans are displayed in the Juubi's eye.

So far so good, but then it get's tricky...
The Sage sealed the Juubi inside himself, and we can assume that just like the later Jinchurikis, chakra from the sealed beast must have leaked into the Sage's own chakra. Giving him physical treats of the beast. These treats are thought to have been passed down to one of his sons, hence why later on the Uchiha's ended up with a dojutso that was extremely similar to the Juubi's eye.
Yet as one son received these treats inevitably passed down by the Juubi via the Sage, the other seem to have been untouched by the Juubi's influence.

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This would represent no problem unless!... Gods be good!! it was the older son that was affected and the younger that born untethered. What an odd thing to happen, did the Sage unsealed the Juubi from within himself between the birth of the two brothers? But that's impossible! He only did that when he was very old and close to his death!

The answer is simple, the so called Younger brother is actually the Elder brother! Hence why Hashirama wanted to enforce the Hidden Villages System which relayed on Power to maintain the peace, as of Madara he wants to create a world where there is no war, no suffer only love, where everybody is a winner and no one needs leaders and is free to be happy.

There was an error in the story Tobi/Obito told us, the two brothers were misplaced. Probably the Elder brother (Father to the Senju) tried to hide the truth by twisting the answers and hence taking the title of heir to the Sage of Six Paths to himself. And the Younger brother (Father to the Uchiha) was labelled as a Hater and an enemy of peace. The resemblance of his eyes with the eyes of the Juubi probably took a big role on making the people believing the Elder brother, as they maybe still remember the sight of the Juubi and mistrusted the eyes of the Younger brother.

Now with that clear let's move on to the final and first point.

We know that this Younger and Elder brother were sons of the Sage, but why do we say they are the sons of the Sage? Why would ther only be two? In fact Tobi/Obito hints that this is not the case at all.

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Here he says that the Senju and the Uchiha were once one and the same, and that the Sage was the two boodlines in one. But unlike many here in the base like to state as a dogma, Tobi/Obito does not state that Senju and Uchiha in a single blood line were all that the Sage was.

He actually implies quite otherwise that Senju and Uchiha (Elder and Younger) merely and only part of what the Sage was. The two clans are only two of the 6! Each clan a Path, the Senju and the Uchiha are two of the Paths.
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This means that the Sage had more sons, sons who must have inherited some of the Sage's prodigeous powers and probably some of the Juubi's too. Sons that could have had treats from both the Elder and Younger or even different ones. One of these 6 sons must have been the Father (or Mother) to the Uzumaki.

With the life force of the Senju and the ability to control the Rinnegan, it's a mix without being neither!

So this is my theory about the sons of the Sage, the 6 Paths!

Your theory is absurd and merely reification to make you believe what you want. Fail

 

[ahmetm]

Wrong IMO if there was more sons SO6P's tablet which is called naka shrine would've been also readable by hyuuga's too or there would've been more then 1 naka shrine

 

[pema55]

***** for this theory

 

[Micho22]

But if the father of the senjus is the elder brother than he must be gifted with eyes the sharingan or ???? To create peace with power
And the younger brother wich belives in peace with love must be gifted with physicall power and life force
Am i misunderstanding something ????
If you switch their roles you also have to switch their powers and abilitys

 

[Micho22]

But still very good job a super theory