The real reason why Orochimaru failed to Control Hashirama!!

[Minator93]

In this thread I'll try to explain Why Orochimaru failed to control Shodie Hokage Hashirama when he was able to exercise control over Other 3 Hokages.

Lets look at the facts :

1. Orochimaru used Zetsus as sacrifises to revive Edo Hokages.

2. Zetsus are made up of Hashirama's cell, meaning for Hahsirama its like he got his own body back.

3. Look what Tobirama has to say here [

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] Tobirama says that the Hokages are back with almost Full power.

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we see that Orochimaru fails to control Hashirama, but what he overlooked was that, he revived Hashirama with almost full power and with his cell [essentially his body]

So in other words Orochimaru could've controlled Hashirama like the rest of Hokages if it weren't a Zetsu Body.

That also means that Hashirama didn't "Release" the Edo Tensei like Madara or Itachi, its just that he can't be controlled because he's at full power, the thing Tobirama warned Orochimaru about!!

What do you guys think??

 

[Hypemaster]

hashiramatologists these days...

 

[Shichi]

actually this is one of the best reasons i've seen so far i like it

 

[Zyael]

Makes sense and I somewhat agree. But the hole in that is that you didin't metion Teuchi allowing everything in the Naruto Universe to happen.

 

[Almighty Ra]

Yea u are correct but i think Hashirama didn't break out of Oro's control cuz he wanted to help Sasuke and tell him the story. I think he can release himself and the other Hokages if need be.They all have his cell's

 

[JohnLee]

seems legit

 

[FourthLegacy]

I wonder how Madara released from it o-O
was it stated?
Maybe his Edo Tensei was a zetsu as well and since he has hashis powers he was able to get released

 

[Cromatic]

Yep. Hashirama could not break out of Edo Tensei was because he just can't... But the reason he restrained himself from being controlled by Orochimaru was that Hashirama has chakra big enough to counter any chakra that is trying to control him

 

[Sir Blades]

There is logic to what you say

 

[Sherlock.]

I agree.... =D =D

 

[November]

because no controlling kunai inserted !!!!

 

[Shichi]

I wonder how Madara released from it o-O
was it stated?
Maybe his Edo Tensei was a zetsu as well and since he has hashis powers he was able to get released

if this theory is correct that would also explain how Madara got out of Edo Tensei

 

[Cromatic]

I wonder how Madara released from it o-O
was it stated?
Maybe his Edo Tensei was a zetsu as well and since he has hashis powers he was able to get released

No.. It is not that... Madara was able to release himself from Edo Tensei because Kabuto had lost control of the Edo Tensei, It was now a free will Edo Tensei, which Madara took over by releasing its attachment to Kabuto .... Madara wouldn't have been able to break free if Kabuto was still controlling him.

 

[Minator93]

actually this is one of the best reasons i've seen so far i like it

Thanks

Makes sense and I somewhat agree. But the hole in that is that you didin't metion Teuchi allowing everything in the Naruto Universe to happen.

Teuchi is the boss.

Yea u are correct but i think Hashirama didn't break out of Oro's control cuz he wanted to help Sasuke and tell him the story. I think he can release himself and the other Hokages if need be.They all have his cell's

Indeed, all the 4 Hokages are capable of releasing the ET but now it would appear that there's no need.

seems legit

I wonder how Madara released from it o-O
was it stated?
Maybe his Edo Tensei was a zetsu as well and since he has hashis powers he was able to get released

Madara cancelled the ET contract itself.

Yep. Hashirama could not break out of Edo Tensei was because he just can't... But the reason he restrained himself from being controlled by Orochimaru was that Hashirama has chakra big enough to counter any chakra that is trying to control him

Even though there's no need for him to do it but I believe that all 4 Hokages can break out of it if they really wanted/tried to.

 

[Narutoga]

Let me put it straight, hashirama chakra is too much to control

 

[Kαmi]

Your theory makes a lot of sense. Hashirama does have a lot of chakra to control but the fact that he's been revived in what was made from his body has to be a factor. It's Hashirama being revived in a body much similar to his own, my guess is that Hashi actually is at full power.

 

[Minator93]

There is logic to what you say

Thanks

I agree.... =D =D

:hooray:

because no controlling kunai inserted !!!!

He can control w/out the Kunais as seen with other Hokages, but Hashirama is at max already, so he failed to control Hahisrama.

if this theory is correct that would also explain how Madara got out of Edo Tensei

Madara was able to cancel the summoning contract, his way is different and I'd say more elegant.

Let me put it straight, hashirama chakra is too much to control

Tobirama has large chakra too and Nagato had too, its just that Hashirama virtually has his body + summoned with full power that's why.

 

[Minator93]

Your theory makes a lot of sense. Hashirama does have a lot of chakra to control but the fact that he's been revived in what was made from his body has to be a factor. It's Hashirama being revived in a body much similar to his own, my guess is that Hashi actually is at full power.

Yup that's correct

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

actually this is one of the best reasons i've seen so far i like it

I agree with this or hashi is just that damn strong

 

[fahadkurama]

hashiramatologists these days...

We need em =D