The real reason why Minato was out of sage mode

[Jarex]

Sure seems plausible

 

[Stxluciferr]

He knows there are better SM users than him(Hashirama and Naruto). Saying he wasn't good in it was in direct comparison to them

No one can maintain Sage Mode for long

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It's a general rule. Now it depends on the skills of the user to maintain it longer than others. Basically Naruto and especially Hashirama can maintain SM in more amount of time than him

Right, but he just went perfect sage mode in the middle of a battle. If he could maintain it longer than he did he would be better at it than Naruto was when he fought Pain, which is when everyone said he surpassed Minato and Jiraiya.

 

[Tobby17]

Minato fapboys...lol

always looking for an excuse, he said himself, he can't maintain it long period.. you think Kishi will go to such extents as taking away his sage mode because he got hit by those balls..lol

btw those balls negate ninjustu not senjustu, the oil the toad spit at Obito didn't get negated

 

[Bogard]

I will give you the raw later, if you want. ^3^ However, even if Viz is right, it doesn't change much. The restrictions are unaltered after all.

There is a raw translation section in narutoforums:

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rutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=492104&page=83 Just copy and past the link. At the bottom of the page you will see GodMaster translated it(chapter 667 page 9) to

Kakashi: ...I'm sure that...
Kakashi: the sensei's senjutsu isn't so...
Minato: ...Honestly I'm not very good at senjutsu.
Minato: Refining the chakra takes too long time, and besides, I'm not enough good to maintain it for a long time.
Minato: I had rarely used it in an actual fight.
Minato: Furthermore, since I cannot create marks,
Minato: I think that I can't fight properly too.

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I'm not sure which translation you possess though

Senchakra is builded in the chakra centre, you have to disturb or block the keirakukei of the centre to influence the ability to build chakra or you've to absorb the components of chakra/senchakra like Fukasaku did it with Naruto and Tayuya with Shikamaru. By your logic nearly every injury of the keirakukei would disturb the chakra of the body, right? Then what's with Madara, A and so on? Madara has two sources for senchakra, but after Gai has almost killed him the flow of his chakra wasn't affected, au contraire, his senjutsu was still present after the Hachimon Tonko no Jin. A lost his arm, but could still use Raiton no Yoroi. Sure, that's no senjutsu, but Raiton no Yoroi consumes a huge amount of chakra and base on a seishitsuhenka.

You can't compare a Jubi jin whose body is only natural energy to a normal ninja who use natural energy to enhance his normal chakra. And no, injuries don't necessary stop the flow, but like you can see on this picture [

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], the flow of chakra is circulating from every cells of the body. Obviously with an arm cut of, it won't circulate in between right?

There's another misconception: Jiraiya didn't lost the tatoo synonym because his arm was cut, but due to Magen Gama Rinshō. These senjutsu took much senchakra-according to lady shima. Jiraiya even said to Fukasaku and Shima:

"You can rest now!" It's likely that both of them stopped building senchakra in my opinion. ^^

Re-look the picture again. Even besides the gama rinsho, he still had full tatoos on his face. It only disappeared after Asura cut his arm. Coincidance? I don't think

Actually, no one uses "In" anymore to build chakra. Why are the arms necessary now?

What do you mean by no one? Even in this war we saw Naruto concentrating to use SM

Naruto surpassed his ancestors. Jiraiya and Minato. Fukasaku knew Minato and we know the reason why now. Five minutes are enough to smash a bunch of shinobi. Naruto destroyed two of Nagatos Rikudō no Jutsu+ summonings in five minutes. Minatos statement wouldn't make any sense, if he could maintain hermit-mode as long as Naruto.

Re-read my statements. I never said he can maintain it as long as Naruto

Ich denke wir haben die gleiche Meinung

Minato fapboys...lol

always looking for an excuse, he said himself, he can't maintain it long period.. you think Kishi will go to such extents as taking away his sage mode because he got hit by those balls..lol

btw those balls negate ninjustu not senjustu, the oil the toad spit at Obito didn't get negated

Minato haters... lol

always reading all what they want to, no one can maintain SM for long, yet when Minato says that.. they act like it was someting new and bad only applying to Minato.. you think Kishi will make Minato get hit by ninjutsu negating black stuffs for him to remain in sage mode when even Naruto gets out of sage mode by heavy hits? When an arm loss is close to out of sage mode for Jiraya despite having 2 partners kneeding his chakra?

btw senjutsu is made of physical+spiritual+natural energy. When the physical(body)+spiritual energy gets disturbed, so will the senjutsu

 

[Sir Blades]

T-Bogard, you are a genius.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

One translation makes all the difference.

 

[Gold Lightning]

always reading all what they want to, no one can maintain SM for long, yet when Minato says that.. they act like it was someting new and bad only applying to Minato.. you think Kishi will make Minato get hit by ninjutsu negating black stuffs for him to remain in sage mode when even Naruto gets out of sage mode by heavy hits? When an arm loss is close to out of sage mode for Jiraya despite having 2 partners kneeding his chakra?

btw senjutsu is made of physical+spiritual+natural energy. When the physical(body)+spiritual energy gets disturbed, so will the senjutsu

Pretty much this right here

 

[Stxluciferr]

Minato haters... lol

always reading all what they want to, no one can maintain SM for long, yet when Minato says that.. they act like it was someting new and bad only applying to Minato.. you think Kishi will make Minato get hit by ninjutsu negating black stuffs for him to remain in sage mode when even Naruto gets out of sage mode by heavy hits? When an arm loss is close to out of sage mode for Jiraya despite having 2 partners kneeding his chakra?

btw senjutsu is made of physical+spiritual+natural energy. When the physical(body)+spiritual energy gets disturbed, so will the senjutsu

Because of how easy Minato just pulled out perfect sage mode, he doesn't need to be able to hold it anywhere near as long as Naruto could, it would still be better than what Naruto was capable of doing against Pain. And it's already been established that he wasn't.

Minato fans have a habit of trying to debate in the uncertainty of things. Even if your right, there isn't much to speak on for how long he actually can maintain it, thus we can only really go by the sample we've seen which isn't for very long

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

The truth seeking balls negate any ninjutsu(Minato's arm didn't regenerate). So the natural energy Minato gathered disperced after he got hit that badly by the staff. It interfered with his sage chakra focus. We've already seen a hard hit was enough to interfere with Naruto's focus in the sage chakra control [

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Besides, Fukasaku's staff was had properties to remove natural energy from the body when he hit you [

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Or his sage chakra ran out... Like it always does... He didn't spend a lot of time gathering nature energy

 

[End of Days]

Its possible, I had forgotten about fukasaku's special staff having the ability to knock out the natural energy

I think that if minato wasnt forced by madara's staff, then he might have left sage mode on his own

Sage mode and be entered and exited at will

Naruto enters sage mode as he confronts iruka and teh guard [

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Then just a few pages later he exits sage mode on his own without using any chakra taxing techniques [

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[Valhorus]

Great thread . That is another explanation what happened back then .
Some ppl using unofficial scans and keep doing interpretation of Minato's words . Yes he did said he can't maintain it for long but please tell me how you come with the conclusion how this "not long " means some seconds ?

 

[Vapid]

The true Child of Prophecy will soon return.

 

[slaton02]

Minato fapboys...lol

always looking for an excuse, he said himself, he can't maintain it long period.. you think Kishi will go to such extents as taking away his sage mode because he got hit by those balls..lol

btw those balls negate ninjustu not senjustu, the oil the toad spit at Obito didn't get negated

This 100% /thread minato fanboys be wild

 

[Bogard]

We give explanations, yet people keep ignoring. Would be funny when the Hokages would fight and people would talk about incoherance when they will see Minato maintaining it for extended periods of time while using his hyped jutsu

 

[Memento Mori]

Lol....Still some People Ignoring Facs

 

[Stxluciferr]

We give explanations, yet people keep ignoring. Would be funny when the Hokages would fight and people would talk about incoherance when they will see Minato maintaining it for extended periods of time while using his hyped jutsu

When that happens you'll get an apology. But intill then...

 

[xxxLegacy]

We give explanations, yet people keep ignoring. Would be funny when the Hokages would fight and people would talk about incoherance when they will see Minato maintaining it for extended periods of time while using his hyped jutsu

Hahahahaahaha it will come some believe it ^ ^