The real reason Team Guy has been absent for the whole of Part 2

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Lee - 8 gates of epicness
Neji - forgotten doujutsu that I love and a smart legend.
Tenten - FTG seals to summon weapons from everywhere
Gai - I don't need to say anything about him..
 

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Yeah they're a sweet team.

I still think any Jonin would have died in the situation Asuma was in, so Kishi chose to kill him off since he was the least developed. Team Guy would have put up a sweet fight against Hidan and Kakuzu, but specializing in Taijutsu+no intel= Field day for Hidan. Kaukuzu would have gotten involved and his hearts would have had a field day.

You really do need intelligence to take those two on, which is why Shikamaru was the best choice to put up against them.

I highly doubt Neji can beat Hidan. He might if he had intel on him.

I don't think they can take any of the Akatsuki teams on their own. They just don't match up well at all.

Sasori+Deidara> Team Guy, because they're to long distance fighters with great trump cards. Deidara can use C4 without having to worry about Sasori. And Guy, Neji, and Lee would get poison fogged if they tried to get at Sasori. You need a puppet user to beat him, that's why Chiyo was such a great addition.

Hidan and Kakuzu> Team Guy, I already explained this, but they can win with intelligence, but Hidan is there worst nightmare. He's no slouch in hand-to-hand combat, he was pushing Kakashi back, and his scythe is a huge problem for them, not to mention Kakuzu fighting from long distances.

The rest don't really need explaining for obvious reasons.

However, if Team Guy was around when Pain invaded, Naruto need not have bothered showing up. Kakashi would have done much better if he had Team Guy. Pain probably would have bean defeated before he destroyed the village.

That is very true, Asuma was actually beast if you think about it... and Hidan may be the weakest member of the Akatsuki but even Kakashi would be up sh*ts creek going up agaisnt them with no intell.
 

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You get rep for making such an awesome thread, but as much as I hate to say it- I can't agree. Team Guy are my favourite squad but seeing Neji portrayed as such a pushover the last few times we've seen him and no MAJOR advancements in Rock Lee's skills I think Kishimoto may have just made them weaker and moved onto other characters he'd rather be writing about (which I hate) :\

Good threat .... But this is all based on you're person assumption, You see neji having a hard time and getting really tired fighting with the white zutsu guys .... I personally think that he's improved but i fell the main reason you haven't seen them if because he hasn't had much time to fit them in. A mean if you look at the manga and the anime atm it seems pretty rushed.

Your posts are similar so I will reply to you both, Naruto is the main character which is why he WILL become the strongest and is why instead of team guy's missions we have me watching there's team kakashi's missions have more to do with the story as the main characters is in that team.

I agree, Kishi has not shown Neji and rock lee barely at all in this war but it is not because they are weak, that is wrong it is because they are not important and that is the truth.

Neji is not struggling with zetsu's what so ever he can take out about 5-10 at one time, what he is struggling with is the sheer number of them which all the shinobi just fighting zetsu were there is thousands of them.

The reason neji was caught by 1 and I repeat 1 of them is because he wascaught of guard for a second, he quickly defeated it using one body blow.

Also it was because of plot he was grabbed tbh it was needed so zetsu neji could cause a rampage at night. That's why kishi done that scene to refer back to it later kishi had to do this scene and that is the only reason he got grabbed.

In the middle of the story it was because team guy would make it easy wins for the good guys and now the reason they are not shown is because now we are talking about way stronger opponents and neji and lee are not that important or strong enough to fight these super strong opponents.




Yeah they're a sweet team.

I still think any Jonin would have died in the situation Asuma was in, so Kishi chose to kill him off since he was the least developed. Team Guy would have put up a sweet fight against Hidan and Kakuzu, but specializing in Taijutsu+no intel= Field day for Hidan. Kaukuzu would have gotten involved and his hearts would have had a field day.

You really do need intelligence to take those two on, which is why Shikamaru was the best choice to put up against them.

I highly doubt Neji can beat Hidan. He might if he had intel on him.

I don't think they can take any of the Akatsuki teams on their own. They just don't match up well at all.

Sasori+Deidara> Team Guy, because they're to long distance fighters with great trump cards. Deidara can use C4 without having to worry about Sasori. And Guy, Neji, and Lee would get poison fogged if they tried to get at Sasori. You need a puppet user to beat him, that's why Chiyo was such a great addition.

Hidan and Kakuzu> Team Guy, I already explained this, but they can win with intelligence, but Hidan is there worst nightmare. He's no slouch in hand-to-hand combat, he was pushing Kakashi back, and his scythe is a huge problem for them, not to mention Kakuzu fighting from long distances.

The rest don't really need explaining for obvious reasons.

However, if Team Guy was around when Pain invaded, Naruto need not have bothered showing up. Kakashi would have done much better if he had Team Guy. Pain probably would have bean defeated before he destroyed the village.

No I wasn't saying they could do it on their own I was saying kishi didn't involve them because if they did it would be to easy for the good guys, could you imagine lee,guy,neji,tenten,shikamaru,choji,ino,kakashi,naruto,yamato,sakura vs hidan and kakuzu it would be over kill for the good guys, do you see my point?

I don't mean team guy by them selves I mean team guy joining to help out, it would be to easy.
 

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Team Guy was a force in part one, they were clearly one of the top teams in the Chuunin exams along with Team Sand and Team Seven. They were able to stack up against Sasuke, Naruto, and Gaara. If team Naruto were the ones who removed the tags in the Sasori/Deidara arc, Team Guy might have just beaten the shit out of Sasori/Deidara in the cave but would have needed Kakashi's kamui for the C4.

Team Immortal would have struggled against Team Guy too. They wouldn't have been as intimidating as they were against Asuma and the chuunins. Team Guy would have been on the offensive and pushed them for all they were worth. Kakuzu certainly wouldn't have just been standing around letting Hidan try to solo those four bad asses. I think if Neji catches Kakuzu before he lets his heart out and hits the 64 trigrams, he might have taken them all out in one attack.

Against Pain, the situation would not have been as dire if Team Guy was there. Konoha wouldn't have been so badly overwhelmed. Konohamaru and Kakashi both killed one, and plus they had the other families like the Aburame, Kiba's family, the hyuugas, and Shikamaru, Ibiki, and ANBU. With Team Guy there to support those guys, Pain may have already been on his heels fighting for dear life by the time Naruto got there.
 

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You promised us a good read .. And you succeeded :ice: ... Wish i could rep but some things seem to be missing with the new layout and stuff
 

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No I wasn't saying they could do it on their own I was saying kishi didn't involve them because if they did it would be to easy for the good guys, could you imagine lee,guy,neji,tenten,shikamaru,choji,ino,kakashi,naruto,yamato,sakura vs hidan and kakuzu it would be over kill for the good guys, do you see my point?

I don't mean team guy by them selves I mean team guy joining to help out, it would be to easy.

Agreed on all accounts. That was more directed to a few of the people posting here.

They were the best team until Naruto learned FRS. At that point, I think Team Kakashi=Team Guy. Then they became second best after Sage Mode.
 

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Team Guy was a force in part one, they were clearly one of the top teams in the Chuunin exams along with Team Sand and Team Seven. They were able to stack up against Sasuke, Naruto, and Gaara. If team Naruto were the ones who removed the tags in the Sasori/Deidara arc, Team Guy might have just beaten the shit out of Sasori/Deidara in the cave but would have needed Kakashi's kamui for the C4.

Team Immortal would have struggled against Team Guy too. They wouldn't have been as intimidating as they were against Asuma and the chuunins. Team Guy would have been on the offensive and pushed them for all they were worth. Kakuzu certainly wouldn't have just been standing around letting Hidan try to solo those four bad asses. I think if Neji catches Kakuzu before he lets his heart out and hits the 64 trigrams, he might have taken them all out in one attack.

Against Pain, the situation would not have been as dire if Team Guy was there. Konoha wouldn't have been so badly overwhelmed. Konohamaru and Kakashi both killed one, and plus they had the other families like the Aburame, Kiba's family, the hyuugas, and Shikamaru, Ibiki, and ANBU. With Team Guy there to support those guys, Pain may have already been on his heels fighting for dear life by the time Naruto got there.

I agree team guy would of had better wins then team kakashi and team asuma but the point I am trying to make is the reason there were not there for team kakashi and team asuma to help is because team kakashi and team asuma would of won much more easier then they did and it would be boring to watch the good guys rape the bad guys.

You promised us a good read .. And you succeeded :ice: ... Wish i could rep but some things seem to be missing with the new layout and stuff

Thanks man, I love making good reads when I'm more and an idea and thoughts comes into my head

Agreed on all accounts. That was more directed to a few of the people posting here.

They were the best team until Naruto learned FRS. At that point, I think Team Kakashi=Team Guy. Then they became second best after Sage Mode.

I completely agree
 

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So true...Lee and Neji are in the top tier of the Konaoha 11. The two things I've been waiting to see are these two go fight like monsters and to see more of Hinata's Twin Lion Fist!
 

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So true...Lee and Neji are in the top tier of the Konaoha 11. The two things I've been waiting to see are these two go fight like monsters and to see more of Hinata's Twin Lion Fist!

Yh Neji lee and choji are top of konoha 11 for me, hinata is like 5th or 6th her and sakura are top of all the girls and on top of kiba for me as well
 

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I think team Gai can beat team Kakashi.

When Naruto just learn rasenshuriken Team Kakashi even without sasuke = Team guy or team guy slightly stronger. When Naruto learnt sage mode Team kakashi even without sasuke > Team guy.

Right now Team Kakashi > Team guy without a doubt.

Team guy is very strong though with lee and neji being top of konoha 11
 

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Team Guy is the only team (besides Team Kakashi) that is primarily a fighting team.

Team Kurenai - excels in Tracking

Team Asuma - excels in strategic capture
 

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Good thread but i think that Team Kakashi has always been stronger than Gais team. Why? Gai is surely strong, but he was roughly at the same level of Kakashi and Kakashi gained Kamui later(don't count the 8gates though cuz it kills the user). Besides from him we have Lee who as far as we know can only use 5gates and he can't even use them for too long(maybe only one minute), at least if we refer at the last time we've seen him using it and against Naruto who can spamm clones for example, he will get tired really quickly. Gates is not really a great option then. Naruto had already beaten Neji in Chunin exam and has gotten stronger and stronger meanwhile when Neji has not shown a lot of feats. Tenten is weaker than Sakura. And if we count Sasuke or Sai, they are clearly above. So i think Kakashis team has always been stronger
 

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Good thread but i think that Team Kakashi has always been stronger than Gais team. Why? Gai is surely strong, but he was roughly at the same level of Kakashi and Kakashi gained Kamui later(don't count the 8gates though cuz it kills the user). Besides from him we have Lee who as far as we know can only use 5gates and he can't even use them for too long(maybe only one minute), at least if we refer at the last time we've seen him using it and against Naruto who can spamm clones for example, he will get tired really quickly. Gates is not really a great option then. Naruto had already beaten Neji in Chunin exam and has gotten stronger and stronger meanwhile when Neji has not shown a lot of feats. Tenten is weaker than Sakura. And if we count Sasuke or Sai, they are clearly above. So i think Kakashis team has always been stronger

Yh but guy still has 7 gates which he can use when he needs to but yh kamui puts kakashi ahead. Lee is still skilled without gates and he also has drunken fist. Naruto only beat neji by plot imo neji caught him in a eight trigrams once your caught in that it completely stops the flow of chakra in the body for a period of time, so I don't understand how just because the kyuubi lent him strength he could use it that was meant to be the whole point for him not to use it, but I guess the kyuubi's chakra is to strong but yh from then naruto was stronger. Also yep sakura is to.

But at the start of shippuden team guy was overall stronger as they had no sasuke or sai which is why I believe team guy was always sent on missions.

And also another point I was making is kishi didn't included team guy in battles because the good guys would be over powered as you have lee with gates, neji and guy it would be to easy if they was with everyone.
 
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