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Take out Jiraiya and Madara.


Tsunade as a shinobi has accomplished twice more than what Jiraiya has done. So yea.

Jiraiya and Madara could have been Hokage. so the OP makes sense.
 

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I think you're eyes aren't letting you see what really happened though. J-Man saved the village more than tsunade did. Matter of fact she couldn't even save it -.-. I think Hokages are able to defend their village. Also that book saved the world too. That some spying you're talking about saved the village too
"she couldn't even save it".. Sorry that she didn't have another Hokage like Minato had Hiruzen to help her out.. She did do better than Jiraiya would've done tho.. Plus, having someone like Danzo betray you and mess up your plan doesn't really help in protecting the village either.

Now where was J-man during the pain invasion?? dead.. what village did he save?

Where was J-man during Hiruzen's death and sand invasion?? Late arrival.. what village did he save??

You are confusing his students who helped save the village with him actually saving the village. That book was never written to save the world, it so happened that the kid named Naruto Uzumaki was fond of that book. That book's relevance is due to the main character, not because Jiraiya meant it to save the world.

Jiraiya and Madara could have been Hokage. so the OP makes sense.

Jiraiya - himself knew Tsunade was better for the title. Tsunade as I said as a Shinobi has many more achievements than Jiraiya.

Madara - had no chance in hell.
 

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"she couldn't even save it".. Sorry that she didn't have another Hokage like Minato had Hiruzen to help her out.. She did do better than Jiraiya would've done tho.. Plus, having someone like Danzo betray you and mess up your plan doesn't really help in protecting the village either.

Now where was J-man during the pain invasion?? dead.. what village did he save?

Where was J-man during Hiruzen's death and sand invasion?? Late arrival.. what village did he save??

You are confusing his students who helped save the village with him actually saving the village. That book was never written to save the world, it so happened that the kid named Naruto Uzumaki was fond of that book. That book's relevance is due to the main character, not because Jiraiya meant it to save the world.



Jiraiya - himself knew Tsunade was better for the title. Tsunade as I said as a Shinobi has many more achievements than Jiraiya.

Madara - had no chance in hell.

You are still failing to see how J-man saved the village. When he was spying he gave them a msg. On how to help them fight pain didn't he? Also Hiruzen barely helped Minato save the village all he really did was push him out which Minato could do easily as you can see he teleported him asap. Jiraiya trained Minato who saved the village , he also trained Naruto who also saved the village plenty of times. That book also saved the villagers reread on Nagato. Rinne tensei. Jiraiya has done more than you're mind can imagine.

You also say Madara had no chance in hell? Dude he was already going to be 1st Hokage even Hashirama said it but you know what happen. So no chance in hell? You crazy he had that spot set!
 
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You are still failing to see how J-man saved the village. When he was spying he gave them a msg. On how to help them fight pain didn't he? Also Hiruzen barely helped Minato save the village all he really did was push him out which Minato could do easily as you can see he teleported him asap. Jiraiya trained Minato who saved the village , he also trained Naruto who also saved the village plenty of times. That book also saved the villagers reread on Nagato. Rinne tensei. Jiraiya has done more than you're mind can imagine.

You also say Madara had no chance in hell? Dude he was already going to be 1st Hokage even Hashirama said it but you know what happen. So no chance in hell? You crazy he had that spot set!
1. Hiruzen didn't "barely help" Minato.. he was the whole reason Kyuubi didn't wreck the hell out of Konoha. Then that could've potentially disrupted his fight against Obito. However, Minato KNEW the third Hokage was there to take care of things, hence why he took care of Obito.

So Jiraiya has done nothing besides train people, who went on to become OP ninja by themselves.. hes a good trainer cool. He still didn't save the village. The book again, was used by Naruto.. its entire relevance in "saving" the village is because of Naruto Uzumaki who defeated Pain.. and would've killed Nagato if he wanted. Nagato wasn't moved by the book, he was moved by Naruto Uzumaki. ... if you are trying to start the whole "indirectly helped" thing, then start it for Tsunade as well.

2. No he wasn't, Hashirama didn't decide who the first Hokage was, the villagers did.. he had zero chance in becoming the first Hokage, due to the fact villagers didn't want him.
 

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1. Hiruzen didn't "barely help" Minato.. he was the whole reason Kyuubi didn't wreck the hell out of Konoha. Then that could've potentially disrupted his fight against Obito. However, Minato KNEW the third Hokage was there to take care of things, hence why he took care of Obito.

So Jiraiya has done nothing besides train people, who went on to become OP ninja by themselves.. hes a good trainer cool. He still didn't save the village. The book again, was used by Naruto.. its entire relevance in "saving" the village is because of Naruto Uzumaki who defeated Pain.. and would've killed Nagato if he wanted. Nagato wasn't moved by the book, he was moved by Naruto Uzumaki. ... if you are trying to start the whole "indirectly helped" thing, then start it for Tsunade as well.

2. No he wasn't, Hashirama didn't decide who the first Hokage was, the villagers did.. he had zero chance in becoming the first Hokage, due to the fact villagers didn't want him.

Due to the villagers lol. Hashirama could of destroyed all of them but they are what make the village. Either way Madara had 1st Hokage but the villagers were still threaten by him a little. Nagato wasn't moved by the book? Naruto was using the words from the book go reread the manga. That book saved many lives aka J-man. Tsunade has nothing on him.

You also say --->''who went on to become OP ninja by themselves''.<----This makes zero sense -.-
 

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Hokage: nuff said
should be hokage; Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Danzo, Madara, Sasuke, Itachi, Obito (each of this uchiha hope to be one but uchiha lol)
waiting approval: Konohamaru, Sarada

My list should diverse in particular order

1st Hashirama
2nd Madara
3rd Hiruzen
4th Itachi
5th Tsunade
6th Obito
7th Naruto
8th Sasuke/Konohamaru
9th Sarada/Boruto
 

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Only Hokages for me:

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Itachi...


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...and Jiraiya...

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...deserved that spot too.
 

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Only Hokages for me:

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Itachi...


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...and Jiraiya...

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...deserved that spot too.
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Tsunade's era brought peace. Her feats as a hokage are probably number one.
 

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No, this is actually true. Tsunade's era brought peace, all villages working together as one.

Not that part the other part. Tsunade didn't bring them together Naruto did. How are her feats as Hokage number 1 when she couldn't even protect the village like a Hokage is suppose to do.
 
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I don't agree with Tobirama and Hiruzen for rather obvious reasons.

I'm not sure about Jiraiya, I'd say that I don't agree with that one either but maybe someone can tell me what's so Hokage worthy about him.
 

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I don't agree with Tobirama and Hiruzen for rather obvious reasons.

I'm not sure about Jiraiya, I'd say that I don't agree with that one either but maybe someone can tell me what's so Hokage worthy about him.

Well I put Jiraiya up there becuz he was suppose to be the 5th Hokage but refused. What's so hokage worthy about him? Many things but I'll just drop one.......He was trained by the 3rd himself. =D

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