The Rasengan & the Senju Life Force

[Honord Sage]

Madara dose not tell the hole true, He did not tell Sasuke and Naruto the hole true because it interferes with His desire of global domination, and He is taking about How strong the will of fire is in Naruto that philosophy not bloodline.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Madara dose not tell the hole true, He did not tell Sasuke and Naruto the hole true because it interferes with His desire of global domination, and He is taking about How strong the will of fire is in Naruto that philosophy not bloodline.

So, you accuse Madara of being a lier, huh? The only lie(if i'm not mistaken) he told is he was not repsonsible for Kyubi attack. In chapter 462, Madara didn't say anything about philosophy. What he told was all about the descendants of Younger(senju) and Elder(uchiha) sons of SO6P. He traced down upto Naruto(senju?) and Sasuke(uchiha). That's all i can say, my friend.

 

[Honord Sage]

Naruto father said Madara was behind the attack of the Fox on the village, if you take Madara word as true then it automatically says that the 4th Hokage Naruto's Father is a lier. That right their tells you Madara is not telling the true story.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Naruto father said Madara was behind the attack of the Fox on the village, if you take Madara word as true then it automatically says that the 4th Hokage Naruto's Father is a lier. That right their tells you Madara is not telling the true story.

Before you reply, first read carefully. I have said that so far Madara told lie about the Kyubi attack, but the remaining are true. Not only the Fourth, even Itachi knew who was responsible for the Kyubi's attack.

 

[MisticDrone]

It is obvius that Madara tells his version of the truth, just like Itachi, just like Kabuto, just like Danzo.

As for the spirit of senju part, its all bout interpretation, one can anderstan it as the "will of fire" that burns in naruto ( and is shown in his fight to get sasuke back) or as some special chakra flow that the sharingan can see. Its all a guess now

 

[Honord Sage]

It's not necessary for Naruto to be a Senju, all that is necessary is for Him is to believe that they had had an idea in creating a village and the promotions of ideas that unify it people. People need something to believe in that promotes unity, brotherhood, and trust in each other. When you have this you have a community that works for the benefit of all it's members. This is the gift of the Senju to the Village the will of fire.So long as they believe and follow this Their be Senju even if the blood ties are long dried up by time.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

It's not necessary for Naruto to be a Senju, all that is necessary is for Him is to believe that they had had an idea in creating a village and the promotions of ideas that unify it people. People need something to believe in that promotes unity, brotherhood, and trust in each other. When you have this you have a community that works for the benefit of all it's members. This is the gift of the Senju to the Village the will of fire.So long as they believe and follow this Their be Senju even if the blood ties are long dried up by time.

Looks like you are anti-Senju

 

[niblack89]

I don't think Naruto is a senju but he has the will of fire and has the teachings of the 1st hokage. Both Naruto and Sasuke are important to Tobi, the will of fire Vs the will of power.

 

[Honord Sage]

I have re read it Madara is not tacking about blood lines, He is tacking about the Spirit, Spirit and bloodlines are two different things. Like Being a Christian and belonging by blood to an original Christian at the time of Jesus and the 12 apostles. Madara is saying that the spirit of Senju lives in Naruto as strongly as it did in the First Hokage, just as the spirit of Christ lives in a devout Christian today.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

I have re read it Madara is not tacking about blood lines, He is tacking about the Spirit, Spirit and bloodlines are two different things. Like Being a Christian and belonging by blood to an original Christian at the time of Jesus and the 12 apostles. Madara is saying that the spirit of Senju lives in Naruto as strongly as it did in the First Hokage, just as the spirit of Christ lives in a devout Christian today.

Clan and religion are totally different. I don't know what you have in your mind, but how i see, you're totally saying that Senju clan(exclude Tsunade) do not exist any more. Am i right or i misunderstood?

 

[Honord Sage]

Clan and religion are totally different. I don't know what you have in your mind, but how i see, you're totally saying that Senju clan(exclude Tsunade) do not exist any more. Am i right or i misunderstood?

Philosophy is an at the Hearth of all religion and non religious believes. What you believe is your philosophy on life. Everything in life is connected. A clan in order to be a clan must have a philosophy that they follow be it religious or not. You either believe in the same thing and are united in the believe or you do not believe thus your not a part of the group or clan.

 

[Honord Sage]

Magna 498 is out Naruto'Mother special chakra is what keeps the Nine tail Fox from poisoning Him, Not Senju blood but Uzamaki from the Land of Whirlpool a totally different blood line. This puts an end to Senju in Naruto, only the will of Fire in spirit makes Him a Senju. Kushina pass Her chakra to Naruto, Uzamaki blood not Senju blood.

 

[Chakra]

Magna 498 is out Naruto'Mother special chakra is what keeps the Nine tail Fox from poisoning Him, Not Senju blood but Uzamaki from the Land of Whirlpool a totally different blood line. This puts an end to Senju in Naruto, only the will of Fire in spirit makes Him a Senju. Kushina pass Her chakra to Naruto, Uzamaki blood not Senju blood.

where does it say that Kushina's chakra keeps Kyuubi chakra from poisoning him?

and who said that Senju blood prevented that?

and how does Kushina saying she has special chakra end the possibility of Naruto being a Senju?

 

[Super Sakura]

where does it say that Kushina's chakra keeps Kyuubi chakra from poisoning him?

and who said that Senju blood prevented that?

and how does Kushina saying she has special chakra end the possibility of Naruto being a Senju?

chakra don't even respond to honord sage. he's retarded. all of that stuff he said in his last response he thinks u said in your theory cuz he's a retard and he likes to imagine things. and to answer your questions...

-it doesn't say anywhere in the recent manga that Kushina's chakra stops Kyuubi from poisoning Naruto. it apparently only supresses it.

-No one, not even you, said that being a Senju prevented the Kyuubi chakra from poisoning Naruto.

-and there is no way to show that Kushina's special chakra disqualifies Naruto from being a Senju. that just sounds ridiculous saying that. lol

seriously this guy is a genuine moron. I don't say that to insult him. he just is one. period. I call it like it is

 

[Honord Sage]

chakra don't even respond to honord sage. he's retarded. all of that stuff he said in his last response he thinks u said in your theory cuz he's a retard and he likes to imagine things. and to answer your questions...

-it doesn't say anywhere in the recent manga that Kushina's chakra stops Kyuubi from poisoning Naruto. it apparently only supresses it.

-No one, not even you, said that being a Senju prevented the Kyuubi chakra from poisoning Naruto.

-and there is no way to show that Kushina's special chakra disqualifies Naruto from being a Senju. that just sounds ridiculous saying that. lol

seriously this guy is a genuine moron. I don't say that to insult him. he just is one. period. I call it like it is

You beter read again when Naruto turn back to Human from being 4 tail against Orochimaru Sakura had to heal His burns Yamato comented on it and when Kakashi was in the hospital Jiraiya told Tsunade,Kakashi and Yamato the effects of the Fox chakra read again and stop being emotional. AND I was right Naruto is not a Senju He inherited from His Mother Special Chakra from the Land of whirlpools, That Uzamaki blood not Senju from a different country.

 

[Honord Sage]

You people go back and look at Naruto/4 tail Fox vs Orochimaru who Heal Naruto's Burns listen ,and read Yamato's analysis of the situation and stop thinking with your butts because you lost.

 

[Honord Sage]

Sorry about the Butt comment, It's Naruto Blood line not Senju blood line that makes Naruto special and unique compare to the Rest of the Village. It is the power on which a new History in the Village will be written if Naruto has someday Children to carry on the special gift from His Mother.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Philosophy is an at the Hearth of all religion and non religious believes. What you believe is your philosophy on life. Everything in life is connected. A clan in order to be a clan must have a philosophy that they follow be it religious or not. You either believe in the same thing and are united in the believe or you do not believe thus your not a part of the group or clan.

You beter read again when Naruto turn back to Human from being 4 tail against Orochimaru Sakura had to heal His burns Yamato comented on it and when Kakashi was in the hospital Jiraiya told Tsunade,Kakashi and Yamato the effects of the Fox chakra read again and stop being emotional. AND I was right Naruto is not a Senju He inherited from His Mother Special Chakra from the Land of whirlpools, That Uzamaki blood not Senju from a different country.

Philosophy doesnt make one a part of clan. Its your father's and mother's blood. For example, in case you disagree your father's philosophy, that doesn't mean your not your father son(meaning you still belong to your father clan whether like it or not).

You're right about Kushina's blood, everyone knows that. But if Minato was a senju, even though some part of Kushina's blood, chakra or whateven runs in Naruto, still naruto would be Senju. That doesn't make him to be uzumaki. In sage mode, he use Sage chakra. But that doesn't make him Sage clan. lol

 

[Honord Sage]

Philosophy doesnt make one a part of clan. Its your father's and mother's blood. For example, in case you disagree your father's philosophy, that doesn't mean your not your father son(meaning you still belong to your father clan whether like it or not).

You're right about Kushina's blood, everyone knows that. But if Minato was a senju, even though some part of Kushina's blood, chakra or whateven runs in Naruto, still naruto would be Senju. That doesn't make him to be uzumaki. In sage mode, he use Sage chakra. But that doesn't make him Sage clan. lol

Wrong not everybody in a clan is of the same blood line clan and family are two different thinks read a dictionary you must have proper definitions and terms to have a logical argument. you must have a subject, a predicated and a middle term to form a logical conversation you can not make your own terms and definitions.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Wrong not everybody in a clan is of the same blood line clan and family are two different thinks read a dictionary you must have proper definitions and terms to have a logical argument. you must have a subject, a predicated and a middle term to form a logical conversation you can not make your own terms and definitions.

So, that means if I follow your philosophy, you and I are brothers, huh? You read dictionary so much that you are converted to anti-senju, uzumaki-lover clan.