The Rasengan & the Senju Life Force

[Konoha Rokudaime]

All evidence points to Tsunade being the Last Senju. Fact Japanese culture like western Culture The Male members Pass the family name to their children's, Females become part of Husband Family. A Senju Woman marring a non Senju Her Children have the name of the father family. 2. Over one hundred years of fighting to establish and maintain the village a Senju had to take the lead and be the example for all to follow,that means the first in a fight was a Senju and the last in leaving the fight. Thats the Prize of Leadership. People die and levee no descendants thats a fact of life. Tsunade's brother was a kid when He died. How many Senju like Him died in battle as kids never to know a woman.

1. You keep saying all evidence points to Tsunade being the Last Senju. Where exactly did you find Tsunade being the last Senju. Tell me your source. Then, i'll agree with you.

2. A senju child born to non-senju mother but senju father is still a senju. So like i said before, Minato Namikaze's mother is definitely from Namikaze clan, and there is still a chance that Minato's father was senju(however i do not say Minato was 100% senju, its unsolved yet).

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

is tobi tobi and is what He said to Naruto about the Uchiha massacre true? Naruto Father has stated that Tobi is using people changing the thinks to fit His view regales of reality in othe word He is not telling the true. And Following the will of Fire makes you a Senju in spirit not in blood
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You are right. But considering the flow of the manga like how Kakashi saw Minato in Naruto, Tsunade saw Minato and Jiraiya in Naruto and Lastly Tobi/Madara saw 1st Hokage in Naruto, there is 99.9% of Naruto being a senju(Both in spirit and blood).

 

[Honord Sage]

Tsunade the grand Daughter of the First Hokage the Nice of the Second Hokage, add to the fact that the Second Hokage pict a non Senju to be the 3rd Hokage tell you the Qualify Senju numbers to be Hokage were already dropping in the village, Tsunade's Father must have ben already dead or not at a level needed to become a Hokage. Male Senju must mate to produce new Senju and nowhere do we see but that Tsunade is not the last Senju alive. Being a Woman She can not pass the Name Senju except if She adopts a male child and Names Him a Senju. This has happen in many cultures were their were no legitimate male blood relatives to take over. Plus nobody in the Village but Tsunade claims to be a Senju.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Tsunade the grand Daughter of the First Hokage the Nice of the Second Hokage, add to the fact that the Second Hokage pict a non Senju to be the 3rd Hokage tell you the Qualify Senju numbers to be Hokage were already dropping in the village, Tsunade's Father must have ben already dead or not at a level needed to become a Hokage. Male Senju must mate to produce new Senju and nowhere do we see but that Tsunade is not the last Senju alive. Being a Woman She can not pass the Name Senju except if She adopts a male child and Names Him a Senju. This has happen in many cultures were their were no legitimate male blood relatives to take over. Plus nobody in the Village but Tsunade claims to be a Senju.

Yet, we don't whether the 3rd was a senju or not.

 

[Honord Sage]

The 3rd Hokage was Hiruzen Sarutobi of the clan Sarutobi not Senju. Only One Son and grandson are alive today careening the name Sarutobi.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

The 3rd Hokage was Hiruzen Sarutobi of the clan Sarutobi not Senju. Only One Son and grandson are alive today careening the name Sarutobi.

What about the 3rd Hokage's father being a senju and his mother Sarutobi? Then, his name becomes Hiruzen Sarutobi, not Hiruzen Senju. But, he'll still be a senju.

If he and his sons are married to Sarutobi, then their surname becomes Sarutobi. BUt still a Senju. What about that?

 

[Honord Sage]

Males only can pass on family Names in Japanese and Western societies. Females cannot pass a Family name. That why its Sarutobi and not Senju, plus it's Sarutobi clan so they're marring with other Sarutobi.

 

[yondaimeminato]

You are right. But considering the flow of the manga like how Kakashi saw Minato in Naruto, Tsunade saw Minato and Jiraiya in Naruto and Lastly Tobi/Madara saw 1st Hokage in Naruto, there is 99.9% of Naruto being a senju(Both in spirit and blood).

you are wrong

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Males only can pass on family Names in Japanese and Western societies. Females cannot pass a Family name. That why its Sarutobi and not Senju, plus it's Sarutobi clan so they're marring with other Sarutobi.

Then what Minato Namikaze + Kushina Uzumaki = Naruto Uzumaki, huh?

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

you are wrong

Prove it.

 

[Honord Sage]

Then what Minato Namikaze + Kushina Uzumaki = Naruto Uzumaki, huh?

Naruto dose not have a clan that why, not everybody in the village have a clan, some people belong to small families, Like Kakashi and Naruto and as for Naruto having His Mothers Family that was The 3rd Hokage decision to somehow protected Naruto from His Fathers Enemies who were so many in numbers. Otherwise He probably believe would come after The Infant Naruto seeking Revenge on Him. Whether it was right or wrong it was the Hokage decision and nobody else. The Hokage has the final decision on all Maters relating to all members of the Village.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Naruto dose not have a clan that why, not everybody in the village have a clan, some people belong to small families, Like Kakashi and Naruto and as for Naruto having His Mothers Family that was The 3rd Hokage decision to somehow protected Naruto from His Fathers Enemies who were so many in numbers. Otherwise He probably believe would come after The Infant Naruto seeking Revenge on Him. Whether it was right or wrong it was the Hokage decision and nobody else. The Hokage has the final decision on all Maters relating to all members of the Village.

Its not Sandaime decision, its Japanese tradition to inherit their mothers' surname. Though to protect Naruto was logical.

Everyone in the village do have a clan. The clan might be small though. To know whether Naruto is a Senju or not, time will tell, my friend. Both of us dont have enough evidence/proof to support our ideas.

 

[Honord Sage]

Its not Sandaime decision, its Japanese tradition to inherit their mothers' surname. Though to protect Naruto was logical.

Everyone in the village do have a clan. The clan might be small though. To know whether Naruto is a Senju or not, time will tell, my friend. Both of us dont have enough evidence/proof to support our ideas.

Wong Webster's Definition Clan a tribe bearing the same surname, united under a chieftain. Family Parents and their Children: the children of the same parents: Now that is two different things.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Wong Webster's Definition Clan a tribe bearing the same surname, united under a chieftain. Family Parents and their Children: the children of the same parents: Now that is two different things.

That will be based on Kishi, and not on Webster's Definition. Like i said, Time will tell.

 

[Honord Sage]

Kishi is a writher and words mean things, their international if they dint mean the same their be no need for language or the expression of ideas. We be nothing more than bipedal parasites waking the earth with no purpose. Words must have the same meaning like freedom,brotherhood, Love and Hope in all languages. You may spell them and pronounce them differently but they mean the same all over the word and in all languages.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Kishi is a writher and words mean things, their international if they dint mean the same their be no need for language or the expression of ideas. We be nothing more than bipedal parasites waking the earth with no purpose. Words must have the same meaning like freedom,brotherhood, Love and Hope in all languages. You may spell them and pronounce them differently but they mean the same all over the word and in all languages.

I agree. But there is no relation with this thread.

 

[Honord Sage]

There is a word in every language is define in a dictionary the same Clan is the same all over the world and family is the same all over the world defined the same way in a dictionary regales of language. So that we all understand the idea in our minds when we hear it.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

There is a word in every language is define in a dictionary the same Clan is the same all over the world and family is the same all over the world defined the same way in a dictionary regales of language. So that we all understand the idea in our minds when we hear it.

This thing and that thing, dictionary, clan, ...
It's kinda boring.

Like i said, about Naruto being a Senju or not, TIME WILL TELL

 

[Honord Sage]

Will of Fire is a Senju Philosophy follow it and Your a Senju in spirit if not in Body that why only one Uchiha can be call a Senju and that was Itachi. All others including now Sasuke and Mandra are not Senju because they have rejected this believes and you can add Danzo to the list, Danzo rejected all Senju believes.

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

Will of Fire is a Senju Philosophy follow it and Your a Senju in spirit if not in Body that why only one Uchiha can be call a Senju and that was Itachi. All others including now Sasuke and Mandra are not Senju because they have rejected this believes and you can add Danzo to the list, Danzo rejected all Senju believes.

Proof that Naruto is senju

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If you compare these two pages, you can see that First Hokage(Senju) v/s Madara(Uchiha) was fated. Simlarly, Naruto(Senju???) v/s Sasuke(Uchiha) is fated. How about that?