The Rasengan & the Senju Life Force

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For the last time Naruto is not a Senju in Blood, Tsunade is. The Will of Fire is A Senju Philosophy, If you believe and follow this Philosophy then You're a Senju in Spirit, The same way as if you believe and follow Christianity it makes you a Christian.
 
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Very Nice theory
i've been sayin Naruto is a senju for the longest time
Naruto shows all the characteristics of being a senju

--Will of Fire
--Huge Chakra Reserve
--Great t-jutsu abilities
--warfare against a uchiha

These characteristics are dominant in most Senju
but just bcuz they r dominant doesnt mean they are in
every senju

I would be very cool if kakashi was/is a senju
i kinda suspect j-man to be one
 

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For the last time Naruto is not a Senju in Blood, Tsunade is. The Will of Fire is A Senju Philosophy, If you believe and follow this Philosophy then You're a Senju in Spirit, The same way as if you believe and follow Christianity it makes you a Christian.

1. the point of this thread was to try to show in another way the possibility of Naruto being a Senju.

2. we all know that it is not a fact that Naruto is a Senju... yet

3. you can't prove that Naruto is not a Senju for sure so don't be too sure of yourself
 

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I'll definitely keep this theory in mind.

Though I am not totally sure Naruto is a Senju, you've made some good points that may convert me with a little thought.

I am not sure he is a Senju because we don't know how many clans there were in the Sage of the Six Path's time. There weren't necessarily "clans", but people who learned his ways and separated into clans.

We haven't had any proof that the Sage is the first person to ever exist. We just know that he had the Rinnegan, laid the groundwork for modern ninjutsu, sealed the Jyuubi, and became the father/mother of the bijuu. If the Sage was the first person to ever exist, which contradicts what Jiraiya said about him telling people he was there to bring peace (which insinuates that there were more people around that time) then it may be more plausible that Naruto is a Senju because then everyone would be a direct descendant of his supposed sons.

It really depends on what you qualify as a "Senju".

If you have three Nara grandparents, then one from the Senju bloodline, is that a Senju? If that qualifies, then yes, most of Konoha, including Naruto, is from the Senju clan. If not, then that individual would be from the Nara clan.
 

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Guys 4 people know the Rasengan. Yondaime Jiraiya and Naruto and Kakashi.

Jiraiya was the 4th's teacher he learned it from him. The 4th invented the tech so no1 before him can know it. Jiraiya tought Naruto the tech. And Kakashi learned it from the 4th when he was the 4th's stundent. So i don`t think annyone else knows how to make a Rasengan. And it cannot be copied since it not uses seals or anything like that. It`s just verry precise chakra control and release. So I do not think that you have Senju acestry because you have Rasengan.
Five people.

Konohamaru.
 

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You are saying that Tsunade dose not know who is related to Her that She has a memory lost that prevents Her from remembering that Naruto is Her nephew? How likely is that from the top medical ninja?
 
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You are saying that Tsunade dose not know who is related to Her that She has a memory lost that prevents Her from remembering that Naruto is Her nephew? How likely is that from the top medical ninja?
You're so simple minded naruto doesn't have to be Tsunade's nephew or grandson. And don't forget she knew he was Minato's son and never told him nor did she ever say in the manga that she knew that fact when most likely she did. Do just because she doesn't say something about her lineage or family ties doesnt mean its not true.

Dude stop posting cuz ur responses are so dumb
 

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of corse She did not tell Him orders from the 3rd Hokage, When an Hokage gives an order that that, everybody that new Naruto's Father was bound by that. Next you be telling me you are a lost cousin to the queen of Shiba, or the Queen of England if you belive that, I have a some land I can seal you in The Gulf of Mexico. You are as dumb as a Dodo Bird.
 
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of corse She did not tell Him orders from the 3rd Hokage, When an Hokage gives an order that that, everybody that new Naruto's Father was bound by that. Next you be telling me you are a lost cousin to the queen of Shiba, or the Queen of England if you belive that, I have a some land I can seal you in The Gulf of Mexico. You are as dumb as a Dodo Bird.
U give the most retarded answers. Not only did she not tell naruto but it didn't even come up in conversation in privacy with someone even like jiraiya. So again lemme repeat to get it through your useless 2 cents mind... just because is not said outright doesn't exclude it from being true u simpleton.

Now quit responding cuz u just make urself look even morr stupid than u already do
 

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U give the most retarded answers. Not only did she not tell naruto but it didn't even come up in conversation in privacy with someone even like jiraiya. So again lemme repeat to get it through your useless 2 cents mind... just because is not said outright doesn't exclude it from being true u simpleton.

Now quit responding cuz u just make urself look even morr stupid than u already do
Ones more you enjoy striking out at your intellectual and Phallically Superiors of you're hiding behind a computer, just like the faces coward. You want things your way regardless of the truth. Naruto's Father is Minato Namikaze, Naruto's Mother is Kushina Uzumaki from the Land of Whirlpools, How you get Senju out of that when Tsunade Senju is the last living Senju, families come to existence and go out of existence all over the world as we speak that an undeniable fact of life.
 

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Ones more you enjoy striking out at your intellectual and Phallically Superiors of you're hiding behind a computer, just like the faces coward. You want things your way regardless of the truth. Naruto's Father is Minato Namikaze, Naruto's Mother is Kushina Uzumaki from the Land of Whirlpools, How you get Senju out of that when Tsunade Senju is the last living Senju, families come to existence and go out of existence all over the world as we speak that an undeniable fact of life.
I think the idea people are getting at is that just because your last name is not Senju doesn't mean you're not a Senju. like in biology, you can have a recessive trait.

I liked this theory when I originally read it because it was not only different from the other explanations of Naruto's possible senju ancestry. it showed the subtlety and possible genius of kishimoto and how he doesn't have to be so obvious and practically hit people over the head with direct statements like other mangas and animes and instead has underlying themes and motifs in his story line. it's almost as if underneath all of this action and system of jutsus and clans and classifications lies a really well-thought out structure that explains a lot on why things are the way they are in the story.
 

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The Will of Fire is The Senju legacy, if you believe it and follow it You are a Senju in Spirit Kakashi, Choji, Neji, Hinata, Ino, Sakura, Shikararu, Naruto, Iruka and many others follow this philosophy and so they are Senju in Spirit.
 

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Conservative Puerto Rican ex Veteran and you just gave your self away A communist Loving Traitor to The Constitution. Fidel Castro must be your Hero.
 

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American fanatic?... green card, retirement money, wal mart, (actually no)gut and cunt-ry.. yep, it's all really worth it? hah? Pedro. By the way, I'm Mexican, hence forth the sergeant doesn't feel awkwardly offended.

Yeah, we do need a dad in the forum, even better an oak carved americano patriot . THANKS hONORD saGE.. bY THe way, it's wrongly spelled. H-O-N-O-R-E-D.. Put it in your notebook sir, no sir
 

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I wrote it that way Because theirs supposed to be an Honored Sage already, So thats the distinction. Now if you read all Sakumonoleonn trends their full of Hate for anybody that dose not agree to His views, And I be dam if I am going to let Him dictated my believes, Or anybody's else Believes. I trust in God everybody else I verify First before I trust.
 
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I wrote it that way Because theirs supposed to be an Honored Sage already, So thats the distinction. Now if you read all Sakumonoleonn trends their full of Hate for anybody that dose not agree to His views, And I be dam if I am going to let Him dictated my believes, Or anybody's else Believes. I trust in God everybody else I verify First before I trust.
go take an ESL class
 

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sakum0n, just stop, you kind of got owned, and he's right, you cant tell other people how to live their lives, you just get angry and try to share it with those who anger you
 

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thank you for sharing this theory with us, you really put a lot of effort into gathering all these information :)

if kishi really did follow this hindu system thing then it just shows the genius that is kishi. a very strong structure and backbone of this story to support all the action and jutsus and stuff :D
 

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Yeah! But maybe yes, cuz she has a superior chakra control! :)) she knew how to counter it too! :)) Naruto Tsuande Fight?
tsunade cant use it cuz back then she asked jiraya why is he wasting his time trying to teach the rasengan to naruto and then said only u and the 4th could use that jutsu(ofcourse she didint know about kakashi cuz he copied it from the 4th)

and nice theory but i agree with everything that honord sage said.
 
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