The Psychology of Obito/Tobi

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Look, I already know I'll never again make a thread as good as this so, I wanted to just make an open discussion on the psychology of Obito/Tobi, what do you think goes through that head, discussions on reasons, motivations, do you think he was deluding himself, was in denial, maybe even insane? Was he depressed maybe, is he pitiable, do you think he hated himself during his tenure as Tobi for guilt, in the same way the character he was based on (Darth Vader) did? Discuss.
 

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i dont know star wars..

he wanted to undo the crap and make the world perfect.
he tried erasing his past by destroying the leaf, but minato rasenganing him prevented him from doing so. and his eye he gave kakashi which saw light helped him too.

Ya know...at this point...I'm not surprised. So much for intelligent discussion.
lol XD dont expect anything serious.
 

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i dont know star wars..

he wanted to undo the crap and make the world perfect.
he tried erasing his past by destroying the leaf, but minato rasenganing him prevented him from doing so. and his eye he gave kakashi which saw light helped him too.

Why does no one know the greatest franchise of all time!?!?!?
 

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FINE, I'LL START! I think the most interesting part of his character was the little hallucination he had while talking to Naruto, THERE!
 

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There is nothing more to say after the Eye of the Moon thread. I'm assuming that's the one you were referring to.
 

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There is nothing more to say after the Eye of the Moon thread. I'm assuming that's the one you were referring to.

Honestly, this was all an evil plot to revive that thread, it failed, nonetheless, time to change my strategy.
 

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It should be obvious to anyone who doesn't have the mental capacity of a Fat dude named KOL.

Just put yourself in Obitos position, he was a 13 year old kid AT WAR. Its like people cant seem to grasp just how twisted that sounds to begin with. Anyways, he was at war and did everything he could to help save this girl he has feelings for and practically grew up with since the academy days. After he saves her he saves his other friend by sacrificing himself. He got crushed by a boulder and was left for dead. Entrusting the friend he saved and gave his "life" for to protect the girl he cares about.

Now he wakes up and finds himself in a cave half broken, covered in bandages, with only an inch of life left in him, and all he wants to do is get back home to Kakashi and Rin. Then he's being spoon fed all these idealisms of Madara about how much the world sucks, yada yada, day after day training, recuperating, and keeping the crazy old mans words locked up in the back of his head, he refuses to listen to it. Til reality comes crashing down on his face. The initial shock of his friend killing the girl he cares about was enough to make him snap.

What kind of world allows an innocent girl to be used as a tool of war. Allows kids to go out, fight, and die for some border struggle. What could have possibly been the cause for all these horrible things to happen thru out history. The Shinobi's world. And its certainly not one Obito wants to be a part of anymore.


Madara was the only one who gave him a glimmer of hope while Obito felt like he was chained down in a fake Hell hole.

Its not that Obito was deluded, His actions and reasons for what he did are VAGUELY Just because its true, Ninjas are power hungry, lying, manipulative, murderers for hire. Its that Obito gave up on the world he lived in. He thought all his ideals he once had were for nothing. No matter how hard you try... you cant save everyone, sometimes you cant save anyone. Obito refused to live like that. He doesn't want the world to be some dark cruel place where everyone is miserable.

He truly wants people to be happy in the IT. But he won't hesitate to kill you if you stand in his way. He's just a man on a mission, just like every other Ninja in this verse.
 

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No he truly believed what he was doing was sane and right
he had the same will power as naruto
 

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It should be obvious to anyone who doesn't have the mental capacity of a Fat dude named KOL.

Just put yourself in Obitos position, he was a 13 year old kid AT WAR. Its like people cant seem to grasp just how twisted that sounds to begin with. Anyways, he was at war and did everything he could to help save this girl he has feelings for and practically grew up with since the academy days. After he saves her he saves his other friend by sacrificing himself. He got crushed by a boulder and was left for dead. Entrusting the friend he saved and gave his "life" for to protect the girl he cares about.

Now he wakes up and finds himself in a cave half broken, covered in bandages, with only an inch of life left in him, and all he wants to do is get back home to Kakashi and Rin. Then he's being spoon fed all these idealisms of Madara about how much the world sucks, yada yada, day after day training, recuperating, and keeping the crazy old mans words locked up in the back of his head, he refuses to listen to it. Til reality comes crashing down on his face. The initial shock of his friend killing the girl he cares about was enough to make him snap.

What kind of world allows an innocent girl to be used as a tool of war. Allows kids to go out, fight, and die for some border struggle. What could have possibly been the cause for all these horrible things to happen thru out history. The Shinobi's world. And its certainly not one Obito wants to be a part of anymore.


Madara was the only one who gave him a glimmer of hope while Obito felt like he was chained down in a fake Hell hole.

Its not that Obito was deluded, His actions and reasons for what he did are VAGUELY Just because its true, Ninjas are power hungry, lying, manipulative, murderers for hire. Its that Obito gave up on the world he lived in. He thought all his ideals he once had were for nothing. No matter how hard you try... you cant save everyone, sometimes you cant save anyone. Obito refused to live like that. He doesn't want the world to be some dark cruel place where everyone is miserable.

He truly wants people to be happy in the IT. But he won't hesitate to kill you if you stand in his way. He's just a man on a mission, just like every other Ninja in this verse.

Exactly, he's like a twisted action hero, he'll do what he thinks is right, and no one will stand in his way. Also, you bring up the point that he was a child soldier. Most adults end up messed up do to war, imagine the affect on a 13 year old boy. Another good example I can think of would be Zuko, who ended up badly messed up because of abuse from his father at 13. Or even better, real child soldiers (I've read the memoir of one, it's not pretty). Basically, everything you said as to his motivations are correct, he basically was a hero that snapped because he refused to believe he couldn't save everybody. He's like Anakin, except, unlike Anakin, he didn't really have role models like Obi-Wan to keep him on the right track (he had Minato, but he turned because Minato wasn't around, just like Anakin with a Obi-Wan).
 

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Sociopathic and psychotic is the psychology of Obito.

If he truly had a mental disorder, I'd say maybe borderline personality disorder (all Uchiha seem to have some symptoms of it) except he didn't really have the self-destructive tendencies. Then again, he couldn't kill himself even if he wanted to.
 

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in the anime he said to himself that hed reunite the ame orphans in the IT when yahiko got killed. he was sincere. but cookoo.

he was upset he couldnt do anything to help and he was weak.

madara put those doubts in his head.

i find it bs that kishi changed it to being madara setting up rins death. it was obviously a mist mission and it should have stayed that way for obitos hatred and story.... kishi changed it lol.
 

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in the anime he said to himself that hed reunite the ame orphans in the IT when yahiko got killed. he was sincere. but cookoo.

he was upset he couldnt do anything to help and he was weak.

madara put those doubts in his head.

i find it bs that kishi changed it to being madara setting up rins death. it was obviously a mist mission and it should have stayed that way for obitos hatred and story.... kishi changed it lol.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure it was always intent des that Madara was behind it all, I always thought everything worked out too convenient for him, considering this as well. Not to mention, he was smirking when Obito returned...yeah, he was behind it.
 
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