The problem with the Naruto/Kurama argument

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So I always see threads on here stating that Naruto is nothing without Kurama, but honestly would Sasuke be anything without Susano'o?

Think about it. Susano'o is a gigantic spiritual warrior with powers comparable to the bijuus and all that Sasuke had to do was be born an Uchiha, have an eye transplant and then get angry. He didn't even have to train or work to perfect the ability like Naruto did.

Susano'o is also to thank for saving Sasuke's ass on multiple occasions, like when he fought the Kages, Danzo, Obito, Madara, Naruto, Kaguya, and others.

So what's the big deal then? Wouldn't this make Sasuke and Naruto guilty for the same thing?
 

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No. Kurama gives Naruto advice on how to fight Sasuke. Sasuke doesn't get advice from Susano'o.
 

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Solo thread completely 100 percent agreed I always say this
 

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Naruto earned Kurama's power. Sasuke simply had to cry and cry for his powers.
 

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No. Kurama gives Naruto advice on how to fight Sasuke. Sasuke doesn't get advice from Susano'o.

Who cares? Everyone gets advice in some way. Sasuke has gotten it from Obito, Zetsu, Itachi, Team Taka, the SO6P and many others. Naruto recieves advice from Kurama because he earned his cooperation, which is something Sasuke could earn more of too if he took the time to listen to others.
 
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Why are you comparing a technique to a giant monster that give out chakra and advice?
 

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Susano'o is made of Sasuke's spiritual energy or some would say the special chakra in his brain.

Bottom line. Sasuke should've gotten a chakra mode

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According to manga, sharingan is rare amongst uchiha, MS is rare for those with sharingan, susanoo is rare amongst MS users. So basically all the stars in heaven and hell aligned during an eclipse for sasuke to have this.....
 

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According to manga, sharingan is rare amongst uchiha, MS is rare for those with sharingan, susanoo is rare amongst MS users. So basically all the stars in heaven and hell aligned during an eclipse for sasuke to have this.....

Also known as luck, which isn't always earned.
 

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So I always see threads on here stating that Naruto is nothing without Kurama, but honestly would Sasuke be anything without Susano'o?

Think about it. Susano'o is a gigantic spiritual warrior with powers comparable to the bijuus and all that Sasuke had to do was be born an Uchiha, have an eye transplant and then get angry. He didn't even have to train or work to perfect the ability like Naruto did.

Susano'o is also to thank for saving Sasuke's ass on multiple occasions, like when he fought the Kages, Danzo, Obito, Madara, Naruto, Kaguya, and others.

So what's the big deal then? Wouldn't this make Sasuke and Naruto guilty for the same thing?

You're wrong.

Correct comparison is Sasuke taking Itachi's eyes. He would be shit without them and he had to grave rob his brother to match Naruto.

:bdpf:
 

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Psssh...

I dont even know why this is a matter.

Naruto dominated the most powerful beast in NV (aside 10tails)

That right there ends the whole debacle

"Ooo advice this. Help him with that. Sasuke is the greatest! Fap fap fap"

Who cares? Sasuke got feats. But y'all butthurt when naruto has some? "Ooo wasn't his" he made it his and then you groan when people state sasuke gets handouts all the time. Cursed mark, itachi's eyes, etc.

Both naruto and sasuke fappers get lost.

Sasukr is a prodigy naruto is a beast. /thread. Naruto = sasuke.
 

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According to manga, sharingan is rare amongst uchiha, MS is rare for those with sharingan, susanoo is rare amongst MS users. So basically all the stars in heaven and hell aligned during an eclipse for sasuke to have this.....

Or, you know, plot armor.... :bdpf:
 

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Susano'o is made of Sasuke's spiritual energy or some would say the special chakra in his brain.

Bottom line. Sasuke should've gotten a chakra mode

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Why would Sakura need a chakra mode. Tobi explained way earlier to Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato that Ashura had the Sage's Body Chakra and Naruto is Ashura's reincarnation so Sasuke having it would spoil the whole story. This is why Sasuke gets the Rinnegan to show the parallel for Indra

OT: Yes without Susanoo Sasuke was doomed for the start. Even that Liger Bomb from Ay would have killed him if not for Susanoo but Naruto would have been doomed without Kurama so they are even.
 
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Psssh...

I dont even know why this is a matter.

Naruto dominated the most powerful beast in NV (aside 10tails)

That right there ends the whole debacle

"Ooo advice this. Help him with that. Sasuke is the greatest! Fap fap fap"

Who cares? Sasuke got feats. But y'all butthurt when naruto has some? "Ooo wasn't his" he made it his and then you groan when people state sasuke gets handouts all the time. Cursed mark, itachi's eyes, etc.

Both naruto and sasuke fappers get lost.

Sasukr is a prodigy naruto is a beast. /thread. Naruto = sasuke.

Exactly, thank you. Both are the same and that's what I'm getting at.
 

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Why would Sakura need a chakra mode. Tobi explained way earlier to Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato that Ashura had the Sage's Body Chakra and Naruto is Ashura's reincarnation so Sasuke having it would spoil the whole story. This is why Sasuke gets the Rinnegan to show the parallel for Indra

OT: Yes without Susanoo Sasuke was doomed for the start. Even that Liger Bomb from Ay would have killed him if not for Susanoo but Naruto would have been doomed without Kurama so they are even.

Not chakra mode. More like Susanoo mode. It is kind of lame that Sasuke gotta pull out big ole Susanoo to use any of its feats. Menawhile Naruto can walk around in chakra mode and use any of his feats without having to bring out his megazord!

For example. Madara had to pull out suannoo to cast that meteors jutsu. it would've been better if it was just Suanoo aura instead of suanoo showing.

Bottom line, I'm saying Sasuke should be able to have Susanoo's aura out without bringing out the megazord!
 

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Exactly, thank you. Both are the same and that's what I'm getting at.

Kishi even said it. Naruto = sasuke. Not naruto > sasuke or vice versa and yet this shit is still being brought up.

Ooo mangafax. Sasuke solos you fav. Naruto neg diffs your fav. Blah blah blah. Then they bring out scans but they never bring out the other sides scans. If they get countered they bring out their assumptions and fanfics.

Pssh if theyre going with hype, Prime Hiruzen will always neg diff. Sasuke was no match for sasuke and itachi bowed to PH, Old hiruzen kicks naruto around. He took on edo hokages with oro. Hes the hype man.

In facts, naruto = sasuke. In hype, prime hiruzen = NV
 

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So I always see threads on here stating that Naruto is nothing without Kurama, but honestly would Sasuke be anything without Susano'o?

Think about it. Susano'o is a gigantic spiritual warrior with powers comparable to the bijuus and all that Sasuke had to do was be born an Uchiha, have an eye transplant and then get angry. He didn't even have to train or work to perfect the ability like Naruto did.

Susano'o is also to thank for saving Sasuke's ass on multiple occasions, like when he fought the Kages, Danzo, Obito, Madara, Naruto, Kaguya, and others.

So what's the big deal then? Wouldn't this make Sasuke and Naruto guilty for the same thing?

Where do you get that?
 

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Not chakra mode. More like Susanoo mode. It is kind of lame that Sasuke gotta pull out big ole Susanoo to use any of its feats. Menawhile Naruto can walk around in chakra mode and use any of his feats without having to bring out his megazord!

Bottom line, I'm saying Sasuke should be able to have Susanoo's aura out without bringing out the megazord!

Would Susano'o V1 not count? I agree though a mode type would be cool.
 
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