The PowerScaling Is Boo Boo

[NextGenNinja]

They're powered by Hagormo's chakra tho.

 

[chaos control]

Is that ignorance I see?
Momoshiki and Kishinki both were stated to be stronger than Kaguya by Sasuke in the novel. The anime implied it also.

Kaguya was stronger than Teen Naruto and Sasuke, implying Momo and Kin >

Momoshiki and Kinshiki were not stronger than Kaguya. When Sasuke said that there is a threat stronger than Kaguya, he was referring to the Otsutsuki clan in general, not specifically Momoshiki and Kinshiki. In fact, the time period when Sasuke said that there was a threat stronger than Kaguya was before Gaiden, and Sasuke didn't specifically meet Momoshiki and Kinshiki until the time period of the movie (which was awhile after Gaiden).

Plus, Kinshiki got wrecked by a few kage. He is by far the weakest Otsutsuki that we have seen in battle thus far.

Momoshiki (both unfused and fused) is closer to Kaguya (far closer than Kinshiki anyway). His durability is sorely lacking in comparison (I doubt that Kaguya would have been killed by that rasengan), but in terms of abilities, one can technically make arguments on ways that he could fight Kaguya.

 

[Reboryushon]

You haven't seen Bleach.

 

[salamander uchiha]

You haven't seen Bleach.

Bleach is trash past Aizen.

 

[Glad Of War]

Momoshiki and Kinshiki were not stronger than Kaguya. When Sasuke said that there is a threat stronger than Kaguya, he was referring to the Otsutsuki clan in general, not specifically Momoshiki and Kinshiki. In fact, the time period when Sasuke said that there was a threat stronger than Kaguya was before Gaiden, and Sasuke didn't specifically meet Momoshiki and Kinshiki until the time period of the movie (which was awhile after Gaiden).

Plus, Kinshiki got wrecked by a few kage. He is by far the weakest Otsutsuki that we have seen in battle thus far.

Momoshiki (both unfused and fused) is closer to Kaguya (far closer than Kinshiki anyway). His durability is sorely lacking in comparison (I doubt that Kaguya would have been killed by that rasengan), but in terms of abilities, one can technically make arguments on ways that he could fight Kaguya.

No, not that.
This is the statement I referenced, and it was stated by Sasuke after his battle with Kinshiki, and the events leading to Naruto capture.

"In other words, they were enemies who even Kaguya wouldn’t have been able to oppose without an army."

This soley implies Momoshiki and Kishinki were stronger than her.

Furthermore, Kaguya's durability wasn't actually impregnable. Her body couldn't resist attacks from Naruto, and she only survived them because of her immortality.

 

[Reboryushon]

Bleach is trash past Aizen.

Agree. I've seen crazy stuff in Bleach. Like Yhwach's loses half of his power, the episode ends, and the next one starts with him doing a summon and regaining his powers.

smh..

 

[chaos control]

No, not that.
This is the statement I referenced, and it was stated by Sasuke after his battle with Kinshiki, and the events leading to Naruto capture.

"In other words, they were enemies who even Kaguya wouldn’t have been able to oppose without an army."

This soley implies Momoshiki and Kishinki were stronger than her.

Furthermore, Kaguya's durability wasn't actually impregnable. Her body couldn't resist attacks from Naruto, and she only survived them because of her immortality.

Fair enough, but even with that context, I still think Sasuke was referring to the Otsutsuki clan in general. Think about it:

When he met Momoshiki and Kinshiki in the ice dimension, he only fought Kinshiki. He did not fight Momoshiki, so how would he know where Momoshiki's power ranked in comparison to Kaguya?

As for his fight with Kinshiki, he pretty much fought Kinshiki to a stalemate (with both fighters using only speed and kenjutsu mind you) and then fled. There is no way that even adult Sasuke would be able to fight Kaguya to a stalemate. Plus like I said before, Kinshiki was beaten by a few average kages (whereas it took two rikudou level transmigrants, a sannin level kunoichi and a rikudou enhanced version of the best mangekyou sharingan in the series to seal away Kaguya). Nothing about Kinshiki's performance screams Kaguya level. Heck, even edo Madara would have been able to wreck those kages.

So there you have it. Sasuke had never fought Momoshiki at the time of making that statement, and Kinshiki's skill has shown to be nowhere near Kaguya's power level.

That is why I believe that when Sasuke made that statement, he was basically saying that the combination of Momoshiki + Kinshiki + any other Otsutsukis that were probably alive (given that Momoshiki and Kinshiki were alive) would be a threat that Kaguya needed an army for.

I refuse to believe that he was saying that Momoshiki and Kinshiki as individuals were both stronger than Kaguya. Like I said, Momoshiki was in the ball park of Kaguya due to his abilities, but Kinshiki wasn't even in the stadium. Kaguya was leagues above Kinshiki.

If Kishi really meant for Momoshiki and Kinshiki as individuals to be as strong as Kaguya, then he did a terrible job at portraying it that way! At best, Momoshiki and Kinshiki might have more chakara than her (and that is a big might), but skills/abilities wise they lose to her.

P.S: You didn't respond to my other post where I noted that Momoshiki > both teen and adult Naruto.

 

[Animegoin]

Is that ignorance I see?
Momoshiki and Kishinki both were stated to be stronger than Kaguya by Sasuke in the novel. The anime implied it also.

Kaguya was stronger than Teen Naruto and Sasuke, implying Momo and Kin >

Lmfao the only ignorance seen here is yours.

Wasn’t it Naruto himself that said that fused Momoshiki was weaker than Kaguya? :Sparks:
Wasn’t it Momoshiki that was defeated by a mere Rasengan as opposed to Kaguya, who tanked 9 Bijuu special Rasengan fused with 6 Paths chakra while Naruto was in RSM- 9 Bijuu? :Sparks:
Wasn’t it Momoshiki and Kinshiki that was after Kaguya’s power? :Sparks:

Rofl hold that L.

 

[Animegoin]

Fair enough, but even with that context, I still think Sasuke was referring to the Otsutsuki clan in general. Think about it:

When he met Momoshiki and Kinshiki in the ice dimension, he only fought Kinshiki. He did not fight Momoshiki, so how would he know where Momoshiki's power ranked in comparison to Kaguya?

As for his fight with Kinshiki, he pretty much fought Kinshiki to a stalemate (with both fighters using only speed and kenjutsu mind you) and then fled. There is no way that even adult Sasuke would be able to fight Kaguya to a stalemate. Plus like I said before, Kinshiki was beaten by a few average kages (whereas it took two rikudou level transmigrants, a sannin level kunoichi and a rikudou enhanced version of the best mangekyou sharingan in the series to seal away Kaguya). Nothing about Kinshiki's performance screams Kaguya level. Heck, even edo Madara would have been able to wreck those kages.

So there you have it. Sasuke had never fought Momoshiki at the time of making that statement, and Kinshiki's skill has shown to be nowhere near Kaguya's power level.

That is why I believe that when Sasuke made that statement, he was basically saying that the combination of Momoshiki + Kinshiki + any other Otsutsukis that were probably alive (given that Momoshiki and Kinshiki were alive) would be a threat that Kaguya needed an army for.

I refuse to believe that he was saying that Momoshiki and Kinshiki as individuals were both stronger than Kaguya. Like I said, Momoshiki was in the ball park of Kaguya due to his abilities, but Kinshiki wasn't even in the stadium. Kaguya was leagues above Kinshiki.

If Kishi really meant for Momoshiki and Kinshiki as individuals to be as strong as Kaguya, then he did a terrible job at portraying it that way! At best, Momoshiki and Kinshiki might have more chakara than her (and that is a big might), but skills/abilities wise they lose to her.

P.S: You didn't respond to my other post where I noted that Momoshiki > both teen and adult Naruto.

He has a habit of ignoring his defeats.